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Welcome to the demise of democracy (Original Post) Soph0571 Apr 2018 OP
There is a method behind the madness. dalton99a Apr 2018 #1
Is the real objective of the Trump agenda to amass power so that he will finally be... nature-lover Apr 2018 #2
TPTB will never accept this vulgar man as one of their own. CrispyQ Apr 2018 #4
Doesn't matter to Trump marylandblue Apr 2018 #5
I think Trump thinks he's too smart to be manipulated. He has a "very good brain" after all. CrispyQ Apr 2018 #11
True he does think he is too smart to be manipulated marylandblue Apr 2018 #14
He will always be a two bit hustler.. paleotn Apr 2018 #6
He will never be part of the wealthy "in crowd". They have always seen in him what is now smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #13
The 2018 election is critical. CrispyQ Apr 2018 #3
This. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2018 #10
And the GOP can't avail themselves or the US because they are all compromised - forever. erronis Apr 2018 #19
Lehrich sums it up perfectly onetexan Apr 2018 #20
So Much Of.This Evil DallasNE Apr 2018 #21
Not the "demise of democracy." The rise and fall of a con man. Nitram Apr 2018 #7
THIS KPN Apr 2018 #8
Trump may be working toward president for life. Lonestarblue Apr 2018 #9
The End of Democracy a GOP Wish Coming True Old Enough 2 Apr 2018 #12
It's Phoenix time!! Rural_Progressive Apr 2018 #15
Well weren't we told over and over in the general election by a segment of the Left elocs Apr 2018 #16
We have to live through this horror Miigwech Apr 2018 #17
But what about the caravan? Botany Apr 2018 #18

nature-lover

(1,469 posts)
2. Is the real objective of the Trump agenda to amass power so that he will finally be...
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 11:22 AM
Apr 2018

a member the wealthy "in" crowd? Not only in it, but also the acknowledged leader of this group that he clearly envies. His primal motive has always been his ego. The presidency was the first step. Now he needs to gain acceptance and he is trying out all of his powers in order to do so.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
4. TPTB will never accept this vulgar man as one of their own.
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 11:40 AM
Apr 2018

Back during the campaign one of the pundits said, "There are two kinds of people around Trump–those he can manipulate & those who can manipulate him." He's so dull & arrogant that he doesn't see how he's being manipulated.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
5. Doesn't matter to Trump
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 12:18 PM
Apr 2018

He just wants fawning sycophants and the trappings of power. He doesn't care he is being manipulated as long as they feed his ego. Kind of like my dog, who will happily do stupid tricks for food and praise. Except my dog has a conscience.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
11. I think Trump thinks he's too smart to be manipulated. He has a "very good brain" after all.
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 12:46 PM
Apr 2018

It's that same arrogance that makes him think he can survive an interview with Mueller.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
14. True he does think he is too smart to be manipulated
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 12:52 PM
Apr 2018

But that's only because a "win" for him is an ego boost. He doesn't realize everyone else is playing a totally different game.

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
6. He will always be a two bit hustler..
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 12:27 PM
Apr 2018

nothing more. He will never be accepted in the circles of the Kenndy's or Bush's, etc. I think he knows that, at least subliminally, and that fact may be the cause of much of his mental derangement.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
13. He will never be part of the wealthy "in crowd". They have always seen in him what is now
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 12:51 PM
Apr 2018

on display for the rest of us. A vulgar, ignorant, self-absorbed, incurious, venal, vindictive shell of a human being. That will never change, no matter how much money he makes or how powerful he becomes. He will always be Donald Trump and the elite will never accept him as one of their own.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
3. The 2018 election is critical.
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 11:30 AM
Apr 2018

We absolutely must take back the House to staunch the flow or we may not recover from the damage he'll do by 2020. If we don't get the senate too, two more years of his horrendous judicial appointments will take decades to recover from. If we can.

NEVER FORGET:

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
10. This.
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 12:43 PM
Apr 2018

There are remedies in place, codified years and years and years ago. The GOP won't avail America of them because of their own craven and venal urges.

erronis

(15,302 posts)
19. And the GOP can't avail themselves or the US because they are all compromised - forever.
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 01:17 PM
Apr 2018

Even if we survive this horrible period, those that enabled the rise of bigotry, alienation, hatred, falsehoods-as-truth. Those should be remembered in our living future and in the history books (ebooks).

Those are the plutocrats who created/funded the tea-party, those that changed political money flow through "Citizen" United, those in congress who stepped aside because the tp/rwnj voices were so loud, those who pip-squeaked every now and then about democracy, but mainly those in the senate and house leadership who watched this abomination come to birth and then treated it like their own baby.

McDonnell and Ryan - trump is your baby.

Now you see why an abortion is sometimes a good thing.

onetexan

(13,043 posts)
20. Lehrich sums it up perfectly
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 01:28 PM
Apr 2018

enablers turn a blind eye to his daily craziness and scandals while they usurp and destroy a fragile democracy.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
21. So Much Of.This Evil
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 01:43 PM
Apr 2018

Can be traced directly to Citizens United. In that sense I lay the blame at the feet of the Supreme Court. Our broken Congress is the effect rather than the cause of the problem. No fix can occur until a make over.of the Supreme Court happens.

Lonestarblue

(10,011 posts)
9. Trump may be working toward president for life.
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 12:39 PM
Apr 2018

A survey was conducted last year by two academics who posed a hypothethical situation and asked survey respondents for their opinions. “If President Trump proposed delaying the 2020 election until the U.S. could ensure that only eligible citizens were able to vote, 52 percent of Republicans would support the move, according to a survey from a pair of academics reported Thursday in the Washington Post. The number of Republicans supporting the hypothetical delay jumped to 56 percent when respondents were told that both Mr. Trump and Republicans in Congress proposed the move.”

The survey sample was quite small —1,325 total wth 650 being Republicans or Republican-leaning independents —so I’m not sure how predictive it is. Trump’s continual harping on illegal immigrants and his frequent claims that millions of illegals voted in 2016 fits right into this scenario. I can’t imagine that even Trump would try this, but I could not imagine that he would become president either!

Old Enough 2

(90 posts)
12. The End of Democracy a GOP Wish Coming True
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 12:47 PM
Apr 2018

Who we kidding, the GOP has been working towards the demise of Democracy ever since it comingled with corporate interests. Small government means big Corporations are central in controlling our government. The public be damned. To acheive this end the Neoliberal C--orporations need a useful idiot to preside over their interests. Maybe Trump is their man, if not, they will continue to look until they find a suitable lacky. The operative drive is to replace Democracy with FASCISM.

Rural_Progressive

(1,105 posts)
15. It's Phoenix time!!
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 01:03 PM
Apr 2018

Let DonnieO burn the existing system to the ground so that We the People can participate in nurturing a new sustainable and just system into life.

elocs

(22,582 posts)
16. Well weren't we told over and over in the general election by a segment of the Left
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 01:13 PM
Apr 2018

that Clinton was just as bad as Trump so it didn't matter which one was elected, as long is it wasn't Clinton to teach us a lesson. This whole thing never needed to have happened.
Have we learned the lesson yet?

 

Miigwech

(3,741 posts)
17. We have to live through this horror
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 01:13 PM
Apr 2018

I think we are all fighting to make sure that trump will never succeed in destroying this democracy.

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