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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 02:31 PM Apr 2018

The "overreaction" to the Chappaquiddick movie

I would hate to be judged by my worst moment or moments but Chappaquiddick was a really bad moment for Ted Kennedy. It is what it is or more accurately it was what it was.

In his own words Ted Kennedy said he had been afraid and had "made terrible decisions" and had to live with the guilt for more than four decades.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/sep/03/edward-kennedy-chappaquiddick

It's all part of the Kennedy legacy which is overall positive but nonetheless complex.

As to the movie it had a mediocre opening:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=chappaquiddick.htm


I doubt it moves Kennedyphiles, Kennedyphobes, or anybody.

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The "overreaction" to the Chappaquiddick movie (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 OP
I really haven't heard about it much. bearsfootball516 Apr 2018 #1
Looks like a mediocre opening. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #3
it is an old story compeltely unknown and meaningless to your typical younger movie crowd Takket Apr 2018 #2
See post #5 Civic Justice Apr 2018 #8
Im glad I never did anything wrong in my life sailfla Apr 2018 #4
has anyone even considered.... Civic Justice Apr 2018 #5
Regardless of their intentions the movie had a mediocre opening. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #6
If that's all you gather from it, then that's on you... Civic Justice Apr 2018 #7
I gathered that the man behind the curtain pulling all the levers stumbled. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #9
Then you just don't understand.... Civic Justice Apr 2018 #11
I can understand when a movie has a dismal opening DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #12
great minds!!!!! spanone Apr 2018 #15
"People worry about all the wrong things." DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #16
I refuse to give this energy. Tatiana Apr 2018 #10
Thank you, for being "wise and not blinded"... Civic Justice Apr 2018 #13
David Irving, the UK holocaust denier: 'More people died at Chappquiddick than died at Ausschwitz bobbieinok Apr 2018 #14

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
1. I really haven't heard about it much.
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 02:41 PM
Apr 2018

Ironic to say, but I've probably heard more people talking about it on DU than anywhere else. It doesn't appear to have really made a dent in the current news cycle.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
3. Looks like a mediocre opening.
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 02:43 PM
Apr 2018

Not much to say about the incident or movie other than saying it's virtually impossible to detach yourself and judge someone you like without bias.

 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
5. has anyone even considered....
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 02:45 PM
Apr 2018

The Right Wing Money that backed this movie.... ? Does anyone ask the question, as to "why now"...? Does anyone understand how the promotions sways negativity about the Democrats? Has anyone figured out how this embolden Right Winger's Narrative... while they promote every kind of vile imaginable ... Tools of Deflection are Many, and the Tools of Mis-Directions are many..

It's not just a movie... the same as the old version of a Birth of Nation was not just a movie, but a propaganda tool to hardens the promotion of racism and it achieved that objective!!! It's Right Wing Base Food!!! and Food for those they can enlist....

People need to think beyond Drama and Entertainment... and think beyond being continually hoodwinked and usurped by every means possible by a Right Wing Conservative Agenda of Republican Madness.

Geez!!!!!!!!!!! We better get smarter and do so quickly.... if we understand what we are up against. Right Wing system and its establishment has shown there is nothing they will not do... to push their agenda.

We are far too Gullible!!!!

does anyone understand the premise of "Tarnish the Legacy" by poisoning the root". If one wants to kill a plants from growing, they poision the root... Republican are good at this type of thing... and we keep falling for it, blind as ever... then sit back wondering how did it happen.

They took over congress and we never figured out why and how, and once they did they took over the Presidency, and we sit baffled as to how.... when fact is... THEY CONTROLLED THE NARRATIVE.... They set the Democrats up shortly after President Obama won, when they dominated the Narrative, and when he won a second time, they saw the passivity of the people not to follow through, and they dominated the congress, and we sat back baffled.... unaware of what was coming next. Now we got what came next, and its an Atrocity Upon and Against America and Its People.... Still we have no control of the narrative and again fall prey to their means of tactics.

Wake Up Time is Upon US !!!!!!!!!!!!!

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
9. I gathered that the man behind the curtain pulling all the levers stumbled.
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 02:59 PM
Apr 2018

Fifty year old tragedies/scandals just don't have a lot of resonance.

 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
11. Then you just don't understand....
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 03:03 PM
Apr 2018

Its young influential young people who frequent movies more than older people.... If you can't see the Democratic Smear.... again, that's on you.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
12. I can understand when a movie has a dismal opening
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 03:04 PM
Apr 2018
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=chappaquiddick.htm


Its young influential young people who frequent movies more than older people


The studio will likely lose money and those seeing it tend to be older people:



Between acquisition cost and P&A, Entertainment Studios is in for $20M. Other film finance sources claim this morning they don’t know how it’s possible for Chappaquiddick to be profitable, and they’re guessing the pic won’t get much past $17M.The pic over-indexed in places like Boston and senior enclaves like Palm Beach and Fort Myers, Florida. CinemaScore showed 73% over 50, but they only gave it a B-. PostTrak reports females over 25 buying the most tickets at 44% but giving the movie a 72% overall positive, while men 25+ at 38% gave the Ted Kennedy movie an 80% positive.

http://deadline.com/2018/04/a-quiet-place-blockers-ready-player-one-weekend-box-office-1202359716/

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
16. "People worry about all the wrong things."
Mon Apr 9, 2018, 10:44 PM
Apr 2018

There's a lot of things to work oneself into a lather about such as Trump doing something incredibly stupid in Syria. This isn't one of them.


Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
10. I refuse to give this energy.
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 03:01 PM
Apr 2018

Pretty sure right-wing interests backed this movie to take down Joe Kennedy, who they view as the biggest threat to their power. He has massive and broad appeal from Hillbilly Heaven through Appalachia.

This movie was made to hurt the Kennedy family specifically, as a threat to any ambition or aspirations Joe Kennedy might have toward the Presidency. Moreover it is a general attempt to dampen Democratic enthusiasm prior to the midterms.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
14. David Irving, the UK holocaust denier: 'More people died at Chappquiddick than died at Ausschwitz
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 03:05 PM
Apr 2018

He said this in his suit against Deborah Lipstadt for what she said about him in her book about the holocaust deniers. (In late 90s IIRC.)

The trial was a legal mess because Irving had to prove that the holocaust didn't happen; Lipstadt had to show that it did.

Richard Evans, the noted UK professor of German history, wrote a book about the trial.

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