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Take that down!: Watch Fox host Howard Kurtz panic after graphic shows Fox News is least trusted network
In what was undoubtedly a painful moment on Fox News this morning, media analyst Howard Kurtz frantically implored his producer to take down a graphic that showed Fox is the least trusted of the big three cable networks.
Speaking with pollster Frank Luntz about Donald Trumps Twitter habits, with Luntz calling the presidents use of fake news detrimental to his cause, Kurtz brought up a recent poll from Monmouth University on news trustworthiness.
That is when things took a hilarious turn.
Speaking of fake news, there is a new poll out from Monmouth University.Do the media report fake news regularly or occasionally? 77 percent say yes, Kurtz exclaimed before noticing the graphic instead showed Who do you trust more? with CNN at 48 percent, MSNBC at 45 percent and Fox News bring up the rear at 30 percent.
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/take-watch-fox-host-howard-kurtz-panic-graphic-shows-fox-news-least-trusted-network/
Arkansas Granny
(31,518 posts)Beartracks
(12,816 posts)Fullduplexxx
(7,864 posts)Initech
(100,080 posts)Chickensoup
(650 posts)Fox is the least trusted,the most one sided
Cable network.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)It is a poll asking: Who do you trust more, Network X or Donald Trump?
For Fox, the most common answer was "Trust Both Equally".
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Youre distorting the statistics they show.
While your statement is literally correct it is for practical purposes false. Yes, thats what the poll showed.
But the OP is right. Since the total of each row also declined, with Foxs row lowest, the OPs statement is correct.
Fox is the least trusted network. Correct. Supported by this poll.
Also. It's a monmouth poll: https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_040218/
Check this data on Fox:
Donald Trump and Fox News
March2018 March2017
Trust Trump more 20% 17%
Trust Fox News more 30% 37%
Trust both equally 37% 36%
(VOL) Dont know 13% 10%
(n) (803) (801)
So Fox trust went down seven points. Now at 30%. And "equally" went up by 1. So at least a 6% shift.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)The graphic is in response to the question: "Do you trust "MSNBC/CNN/Fox" more or Trump more?"
In the case of MSNBC and CNN - people trust the network more than Trump.
In the case of Fox - people trust Fox and Trump about the same amount
The question didn't ask: "Which of these networks do you trust the most?"
Edit to add link to the poll:
https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/documents/monmouthpoll_us_040218.pdf/
Graphic comes from Question 38.
Ms. Toad
(34,074 posts)There is no way to draw any comparison between the networks based on the question.
The question asks which do you trust more: Trump v. Network (not Network A v. Network B).
I would answer that I trust Fox news and Trump equally - i.e. not at all. A trump supporter would likely answer the exact same way, but for a very different reason: 100% trust in both.
All the responses can do is compare Trump v. Network. It cannot compare network v. network for the reason I suggested: Both people in touch with reality and those who live in Trump-World will answer the exact same way as to the Fox v. Trump question.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,074 posts)Hence, I trust Trump and Fox as a source of information about as far as I could throw either one - equally at 0%.
Doitnow
(1,103 posts)I heard him speak, I couldn't listen for more than 5 minutes before realizing his mouth spouted hogwash. Never tuned him in again. Beware when anyone has to advertise what great thing they are.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,492 posts)Only took a few minutes to tell he is a right-wing scum bag and liar. Made reading Al Franken's book even more rewarding!
ChazInAz
(2,569 posts)Nicely matches the bottom side of the bell curve inhabited by trumpsters.
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)'What does "occasionally" mean? 🛠
EricMaundry
(1,619 posts)Always a cause for panic at Faux News when the truth actually leaks through.
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)frank luntz is a real dick but he does know what the people think
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Fox = Fox News
MSNBC - The Place For Politics
There is truth in advertising. MSNBC does not do news, they focus on politics, There is no bias when you tell the truth.
Now that would be a new concept at Fox, sorry Shep.
America is better informed on Fox bullshit since tRump call attention to it on a daily basis. We can see the manipulation where normally nobody would pay attention.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)Thank you!!!
BumRushDaShow
(129,085 posts)Edit to ad that after watching the segment, I am surprised at Frank Luntz sounding the alarm about November.
Captain Stern
(2,201 posts)It does the same thing they do every day. Misrepresents.
I watched the video.
The host didn't 'panic' the first time the graphic got thrown up there. He acknowledged that it was the wrong graphic, and then said 'please take that down'. Then, later in the video, they actually do put that graphic up intentionally (they wouldn't have made the damn thing, if they didn't intend to use it).
FOX news is shit, but we shouldn't have to make stuff up about them to prove it.
Ms. Toad
(34,074 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,732 posts)Getting the better of someone in an argument is often described as "destroying" them, for example, when nobody was "destroyed" in the least. They are just clickbait - it's best to refer to the original source.
thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)I wish people would stop posting them here.
knightmaar
(748 posts)Woopty-frakking-doo.
thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)yonder
(9,666 posts)I bet he woke up with a broken tongue, or at least bruised and bloodied. I would have loved to see his face.
knightmaar
(748 posts)MariaCSR
(642 posts)Puzzler
(2,505 posts)-Puzzler
tavernier
(12,392 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)As I and other posters have noted, the question asked:
Whom do you trust more MSNBC or Trump? CNN or Trump? Fox or Trump?
They are each being compared to Trump in terms of reliability - not to each other.
tavernier
(12,392 posts)The numbers are cockeyed either way you look at it.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Here's a link to the actual survey question and results:
https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/documents/monmouthpoll_us_040218.pdf/
This is the question:
38. Im going to read you some names of information sources. For each pair of names I read,
please tell me which one you trust more as a source of information, or whether you trust both
sources about equally
Donald Trump and CNN
March
2018
Trust Trump more 35%
Trust CNN more 48%
Trust both equally 13%
(VOL) Dont know 5%
Donald Trump and Fox News
TREND: March
2018
March
2017
Trust Trump more 20% 17%
Trust Fox News more 30% 37%
Trust both equally 37% 36%
(VOL) Dont know 13% 10%
(n) (803)
Donald Trump and MSNBC
TREND: March
2018
March
2017
Trust Trump more 32% 33%
Trust MSNBC more 45% 47%
Trust both equally 16% 15%
(VOL) Dont know 6% 5%
thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)They use a red box to highlight the three network numbers, which as you correctly indicate, should not be directly compared to each other. I didn't see the later portion of the broadcast where they apparently did intentionally use that graphic... I wonder how that red box related to that piece.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I don't understand the red box either.
ProfessorGAC
(65,068 posts)He's a media guy. I know it's for Faux, but why would he care about what graphic goes up?
And, this is kind of a stupid question. It seems there is no value to even knowing the answer to a question that is comparing apples to oranges and then displaying it as if we're comparing cars?
It's totally mixed up and nonsensical.
UpInArms
(51,284 posts)How can a poll have 45%, 48% and 30%?
The number then add to more than 100%
🤦🏽?♀️
Ms. Toad
(34,074 posts)Each bar comes from a separate question:. Do trust Trump or the network more. The question did not compare network to network.
UpInArms
(51,284 posts)n/t
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Oh well.