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milestogo

(16,829 posts)
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 11:11 PM Apr 2018

The first time I heard of Trump almost 30yrs ago, I thought he was slime.

I remember hearing about the very public breakup of his marriage and the trade-in of one trophy wife for another, and I thought yuck - who would be attracted to him.

He made a complete fool of himself with the birther stuff. I couldn't believe anyone would take him seriously as a presidential candidate.

But here he is. Millions of people voted for him. And no matter how big an ass he is, millions continue to support him. How can anyone believe in him? He is so obviously dishonest, self-centered, and manipulative.

I just don't get it.

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unblock

(52,227 posts)
2. I remember seeing him presenting his latest wife for the first time
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 11:21 PM
Apr 2018

She was standing what looked like 10 feet away, maybe even literally on a pedestal or small platform. He didn't talk to her, she didn't say a word. Her job apparently was to stand there and look pretty and elegant.

I just remember her treating her as a prize he won, as a trophy or something. He praised her looks but nothing about who she was or what she was all about.

It was an incredibly sexist display.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
3. As a former New Yorker, I can safely say that about 90 percent of the people in the city
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 11:22 PM
Apr 2018

despise him. That is because we know the most about him.

The rubes in the heartland just think he is a tough talking dude. They have no idea who he really is. If they knew him like we do, they would despise him too. I really can't believe how many stupid people fall for his bullshit.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
8. As a former Chicagoan, I can safely say that at least 90 percent of the people in Chicago
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 11:29 PM
Apr 2018

love and respect President Obama. I knew people who went to law school when he was teaching, and they thought he was awesome.

So yeah, the locals know.

LeftInTX

(25,336 posts)
4. I remember hearing about him from Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 11:24 PM
Apr 2018


Didn't have cable back then, so I watched whatever......

unblock

(52,227 posts)
5. Honestly a lot of people never took *him* seriously
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 11:25 PM
Apr 2018

He managed to worm his way into certain *roles* that people take seriously, such as Republican Party front-runner, Republican Party nominee, and somehow, potus.

The sheeple then transfer their views and habits about these roles onto the person. Republican just don't even think about not standing by their leader. It just doesn't compute for them.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
9. Letterman had him on a few times just to ridicule him.
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 11:32 PM
Apr 2018



I think that was how I first remember him. I thought he was a
scumbag then and I think he is even more of a scumbag now.

cos dem

(903 posts)
10. Remember "Trump or Monkey"?
Tue Apr 10, 2018, 11:54 PM
Apr 2018

Three hairstyles with the faces removed, and the guest had to guess which one was Trump. Actually, harder than it sounds.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
11. I've loathed him longer than that.
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 12:58 AM
Apr 2018

Every time I've ever heard his name I'd change the channel or radio station in disgust, and that was a long, long time ago. If I knew then what I know now, I would have seriously jumped off of a building. Trump is one of the most if not the most loathsome public figure in my lifetime. Every day is a fresh hell, or a "What fresh Trump is this?" moment, and we aren't even in the ninth circle of Trump yet. Hopefully we won't have to deal with this cretin or all the miles deep ugliness (racism, xenophobia, gun humping, willful stupidity and the rejection of learnin', idiot adults slandering high schoolers, etc., etc., etc.) that comes with him much longer.

forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
12. My opinion:
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 01:54 AM
Apr 2018

I don't think a lot of people follow politics very closely in detail like we do - those of us who will read message boards online and research the issues actively. They might hear a report on their local broadcast, but it's passive absorption.

Many people watch TV. "Trump" was a known thing, and many of them went "Oh cool, I've heard of The Apprentice; we can have a president I've heard of before!"

When I found out my dad had voted for Trump, I of course asked "Why the hell for?" and the only answer he could come up with was "I dunno, I just like him..."

My dad doesn't follow politics and was very likely swept up by the impression Trump wants people to have of him: rich playboy millionaire who gets what he wants, and will run the government like one of his "successful" businesses.

Anyone with a bit of internet knowledge knows that's not the case, but I think many people just don't get interested in politics. The problem is that mainstream news pushed a celebrity politician 24/7 because he was "interesting" and that excitement bled from cable to broadcast news. This broke through the normal veneer between politically interested people and politically apathetic people who just catch the opening news report before they switch the TV off after their favorite nightly TV show. The appeal of name recognition cannot be discounted.

misanthrope

(7,417 posts)
13. Understood but he made himself a celebrity long before he ran for office
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 03:25 AM
Apr 2018

Trump became famous back in the 1980s, most of all when he tried to become the mastermind of the USFL and instead accelerated the league's demise. A slumlord's scion, he was a grifter and wannabe mobster who was happy to be a suitably visible symbol of the Reagan Era.

That was decades before he ever entered politics.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
15. One person told me they voted for Trump because he was a successful businessman...
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 07:55 AM
Apr 2018

They didn't know about his bankruptcies, his debt, and how many times he was sued by people who worked for him or did business with him. And frankly, this should have been more of a big deal during the 2016 campaign.

TlalocW

(15,382 posts)
14. I had heard of Trump as a teenager
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 03:31 AM
Apr 2018

I was one of few people in my class who read every page of the newspaper (except sports), and Trump's name would come up but make no impression on me. Just a New York businessman, kind of blustery, kind of a caricature of a New Yorker, etc. The first time I remember seeing him though WAS positive. It was 1989, and I was watching the 15 Year Anniversary of Saturday Night Live. It opened up with Lorne Michaels begging Chevy Chase not to do one of his pratfalls from the 70s as he wasn't a young man anymore. Chevy ignored him and made his way through the studio audience, always about to trip, and when he got to Trump he dumped the popcorn he was carrying on him, and Trump honestly laughed along with the joke.

TlalocW

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