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We are taking back the house! (Original Post) unblock Apr 2018 OP
Yep - GOTV! dalton99a Apr 2018 #1
Ryan has talked about not running before. Nt NCTraveler Apr 2018 #2
Oh he is running. Just not for office. MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #3
They are both traitors. Do not let them off lightly. BSdetect Apr 2018 #4
Im not sure what the Mueller link is with Ryan. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #5
Cohen is the finance director of the RNC. MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #6
Im very well aware of that about Cohen. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #7
The coverup is criminal. MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #12
You didnt link Ryan, again. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #13
There are these issues however BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #16
There are. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #18
A Ryan superpac mercuryblues Apr 2018 #17
This. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #19
ah, you couldn't fix mercuryblues Apr 2018 #20
"It is very possible Mueller has hauled a few in" BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #21
true, but it's a good sign for us, especially given all the other good signs. unblock Apr 2018 #9
I agree that it is a good sign. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #10
I think cuz he knows Trump has performed impeachable acts LeftInTX Apr 2018 #22
Hard to blame him for that. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #23
Which is why I am glad that the Dems mercuryblues Apr 2018 #8
Repubs will try to make that an issue... Wounded Bear Apr 2018 #11
The media will push it to no end. mercuryblues Apr 2018 #14
I'm hoping all Dem candidates follow that playbook... Wounded Bear Apr 2018 #15

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
3. Oh he is running. Just not for office.
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 09:06 AM
Apr 2018

I think Mueller is going to have a nice talk with both Ryan and McConnell before this is over.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
5. Im not sure what the Mueller link is with Ryan.
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 09:09 AM
Apr 2018

I’ve seen some connect the dot stories that didn’t seem to amount to much. Mueller isn’t the end all be all of political warfare.

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
6. Cohen is the finance director of the RNC.
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 09:18 AM
Apr 2018

All those dots are liniing up. Just need to follow the big glowing arrows.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
7. Im very well aware of that about Cohen.
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 09:22 AM
Apr 2018

Mueller isn’t here to play daddy and dress people down. That is the loose type of connection I have been seeing with respect to Ryan.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
13. You didnt link Ryan, again.
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 09:43 AM
Apr 2018

Just slogans.

I really don’t get this thought that Mueller is bringing “criminal” charges against Ryan. You sure haven’t made a case.

I notice where some are trying to set the bar.

mercuryblues

(14,531 posts)
17. A Ryan superpac
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 10:22 AM
Apr 2018

used information in the DNC stolen emails in an ad campaign. There is also a question of Ryan and others getting Russian money funneled into their campaigns.

Knowing something and proving something are to different things. Do I wish it is proven and Ryan pays a legal price, hell yes. right now I am just happy he will be gone from the house.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
19. This.
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 10:39 AM
Apr 2018

Knowing something and proving something are to different things.

A lot of the information was already in the public domain at that point, as well. The case for criminal charges against Ryan has not been made. It was brought to me in a comment as certainty. I have no respect for Ryan. I also understand that Mueller isn’t about to press charges against all Republican leadership.

mercuryblues

(14,531 posts)
20. ah, you couldn't fix
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:41 AM
Apr 2018

my to/two mistake when quoting me? Thanks.

I believe the worm goes to the core of the GOP. I also believe the enormity of how deep this is will not be revealed in my lifetime. At least a few Rs are "retiring" to avoid investigation or as a result of their involvement. It is very possible Mueller has hauled a few in and said, this is what we know about you, now tell us what you know. What they did or know might not be illegal, but it certainly would end their careers and make them and their families toxic to future employers. So they retire and keep their legacy intact.

I also believe there are some Rs that see/know what is coming and had no part with it and don't want to be tainted with it. Getting out while the getting is good.

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
21. "It is very possible Mueller has hauled a few in"
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 02:08 PM
Apr 2018

This I expect happened. It would have had to been a choice few and they would have had to have given up enough to tie up a few dangling threads and to help set a trap for the more obvious ones like Nunes and Rohrabacher. And I actually wouldn't be surprised if Eddie Munster was hauled in there specifically due to those two. He really has become subdued and even gone quiet (in a relative sense given his position) this session and the fact that Nunes is completely out of control really raises all sorts of red flags and almost suggests that he is purposely being allowed to do it because he is being surveilled.

unblock

(52,227 posts)
9. true, but it's a good sign for us, especially given all the other good signs.
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 09:36 AM
Apr 2018

record numbers of republicans retiring is certainly a good sign already, but when it includes the speaker of the house, wow.

more evidence that they see the writing on the wall and are bailing early. eventually it becomes self-fulfilling, as each retirement makes taking back the house that much easier for us!



LeftInTX

(25,333 posts)
22. I think cuz he knows Trump has performed impeachable acts
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 02:43 PM
Apr 2018

Ryan wants to get out, so he can avoid the hassle.

mercuryblues

(14,531 posts)
8. Which is why I am glad that the Dems
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 09:35 AM
Apr 2018

are not pushing impeachment. Gingrich did that with Clinton, inside polling had the Rs picking up 30 seats. They lost 5 on election day.

Clinton was polling higher than trump is so why take a chance on not gaining as many seats as possible.

The only answer Dems should give on the impeachment question is: We have a rule of law in this country. We shall see what the evidence is and take action based on that evidence. Impeachment may or may not be possible.

Wounded Bear

(58,656 posts)
11. Repubs will try to make that an issue...
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 09:38 AM
Apr 2018

Dems would do well to shrug that off and focus on economics and especially local issues. All politics is local.

Any questions about impeachment should be answered with, "Let's let Mr Mueller finish his investigation. Then we'll see what we need to do."

So, I'm with you on that.

mercuryblues

(14,531 posts)
14. The media will push it to no end.
Wed Apr 11, 2018, 10:03 AM
Apr 2018

As long as Dems stick to Let the investigation play out, it won't give Rs power.

The 1st Dem who says: Republicans are so desperate to shut down investigations into Russia that they are willing to subvert the rule of law. Why are they so anxious to shut down investigations of Russia hacking our elections? Why are they willing to put Russia's interests over America's interests?

All we, as Democrats, want to do is let the investigation get to the truth and act in a legal and responsible manner, based on evidence.


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