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DetlefK

(16,423 posts) Wed Apr 11, 2018, 10:52 AM Apr 2018

Please stop being so mean to Paul Ryan.

All he wanted was to be US President.

Then John Boehner stepped down and Paul let himself be talked into becoming the new Speaker. And he knew full well that now he will never become President. (No Speaker was ever elected President.)

The Tea Party hated Paul, the Democrats hated Paul, but okay, he could live with that.

And then Trump was elected and Paul was forced to kneel before his overlord.
Before, it had been the Freedom Caucus who sabotaged his negotiations with unrealistic demands. Now, on top of that, Trump was sabotaging him, by flip-flopping on whether or not he supports a bill. Paul was able to get one big bill through Congress, the tax-cut.

Does anybody think that after such a career Paul has any desire for more Tea Party and more MAGA and more sabotage and more butt-kissing?

No, we should be grateful to see Paul retire and wish the Zombie-Eyed Granny-Starver that he gets what he deserves.

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Please stop being so mean to Paul Ryan. (Original Post) DetlefK Apr 2018 OP

Point of order... Wounded Bear Apr 2018 #1

It's possible that the meaning was 'no Speaker of the House has ascended Aristus Apr 2018 #4

No, he never held a party leadership position in the House (he was there from late-30s--late-40s) shanny Apr 2018 #5

My bad...was he Senate Majority leader? Wounded Bear Apr 2018 #14

Yes, he was--and (in)famously good at it. shanny Apr 2018 #16

Thank you for posting The Picture uppityperson Apr 2018 #2

Just for you..... marble falls Apr 2018 #3

Ooooooo, baby uppityperson Apr 2018 #7

An albino ectomorph from Wisconsin? marble falls Apr 2018 #10

ah, the sub-3 hour marathon runner.... shanny Apr 2018 #6

James Polk, 11th President was the Speaker of the House bottomofthehill Apr 2018 #8

History nerd! marble falls Apr 2018 #9

Sad but true, using that high school education. bottomofthehill Apr 2018 #13

He does have something to fall back on.. safeinOhio Apr 2018 #11

He skipped leg day at the gym. n/t LuckyCharms Apr 2018 #12

Can't unsee it! kairos12 Apr 2018 #15

Wounded Bear

(58,656 posts)

1. Point of order...

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2018, 10:55 AM

Apr 2018

I believe that LBJ was once Speaker before he moved to the Senate.

But yeah, not since then. That's why he didn't want the job from the start.

Aristus

(66,369 posts)

4. It's possible that the meaning was 'no Speaker of the House has ascended

Reply to Wounded Bear (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:06 AM

Apr 2018

directly to the Presidency.'

shanny

(6,709 posts)

5. No, he never held a party leadership position in the House (he was there from late-30s--late-40s)

Reply to Wounded Bear (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:08 AM

Apr 2018

Wounded Bear

(58,656 posts)

14. My bad...was he Senate Majority leader?

Reply to shanny (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 11, 2018, 03:16 PM

Apr 2018

Could have sworn he dad some useful congressional experience.

shanny

(6,709 posts)

16. Yes, he was--and (in)famously good at it.

Reply to Wounded Bear (Reply #14)

Wed Apr 11, 2018, 06:04 PM

Apr 2018

He was in the Senate from--I think--'49 to '61 when he became veep.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)

2. Thank you for posting The Picture

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:01 AM

Apr 2018

I'm glad I'm not the only one who flashes to it when reading about Pual Ryan.

marble falls

(57,083 posts)

3. Just for you.....

Reply to uppityperson (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:05 AM

Apr 2018

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)

7. Ooooooo, baby

Reply to marble falls (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:12 AM

Apr 2018

How could anyone have thought those were a good series?

marble falls

(57,083 posts)

10. An albino ectomorph from Wisconsin?

Reply to uppityperson (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:17 AM

Apr 2018

shanny

(6,709 posts)

6. ah, the sub-3 hour marathon runner....

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:12 AM

Apr 2018

bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)

8. James Polk, 11th President was the Speaker of the House

Reply to DetlefK (Original post)

Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:13 AM

Apr 2018

He left to serve as Governor of Tennessee but was a Speaker who went on to become President.

marble falls

(57,083 posts)

9. History nerd!

Reply to bottomofthehill (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:15 AM

Apr 2018

bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)

13. Sad but true, using that high school education.

Reply to marble falls (Reply #9)

Wed Apr 11, 2018, 11:44 AM

Apr 2018

They have a brass plate where his desk was located in Statuary Hall (the old House Chamber) in the US Capitol. It is the only one in the front of the room actually closest to the Speakers Office. It is in front of John Adams who was the President then returned to the House. That is truly nerdy........