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What Really Happened When Bernie Sanders Went to Mississippi
Bernie Sanders in the Deep South
Last week, I joined Bernie Sanders in Memphis, Tennessee, and Jackson, Mississippi, to commemorate the 50th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.s assassination. Sanders was overwhelmingly well received by both passersby and the local audiences who came to hear him speak. But so far, the media coverage of his trip has revolved around a brief aside, in which Sanders faulted the Democratic Party for its recent legislative failures
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In fact, if Beale Street could talk, it would tell a very different story about Bernie Sanders than the now-familiar critique that he is insufficiently sensitive to racial issues. As I walked with Sanders down Memphiss famous thoroughfare, his popularity, including among the predominantly black crowd attending the commemorative festivities, was self-evident. The senator was stopped every few feet by selfie-seekers and admirers. Yes: Perhaps this is to be expected of any politician with a national profile, but given his poor showing in Mississippi during the 2016 Democratic primary, in which he secured less than 17 percent of the black vote, I had thought the senator and his small cohort might go unnoticed. I was wrong.
A group of 40-something black women were among the first to spot the senator as he exited a parking garage, followed quickly by a black teenager, who endearingly apologized repeatedly to Mr. Sanders as he snapped a selfie. Later, at a hotel in Jackson, Mississippi, two black receptionists chatted substantively about the senator after he went upstairs to change for the evenings event, remarking that Sanders hadnt forgotten the people who had voted for him the people he was fighting for. Unlike other politicians, they agreed, Bernie hasnt proven himself to be that way yet.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)about Bernie here??
Good article. Thanks.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)erronis
(15,257 posts)Just asking, not voicing an opinion. I can retract the question if necessary. "Anointed" was just a turn of phrase, not meant to imply some holy blessing.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)and I really suspect you would be better off in a lot of ways just asking someone else.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)What a brightly colored cross you've designed for yourselves for that Newer & Better Martyrdom! Tastes Great... less filling.
garybeck
(9,942 posts)there i said it. am i banned from DU now?
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)But for now, apparently not. In the meantime, you'll just get a lot of grief and hassle.
LexVegas
(6,063 posts)Egnever
(21,506 posts)Sorry.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Keep telling yourself that... without the self-assigned oppression, there's have little else.
mountain grammy
(26,621 posts)Here's another pertinent excerpt..
But in order to ensure that black voters turn out, Sanders understands that people need something to vote for, not just someone to vote against. They need to feel heard.
Sounds like a winning strategy to me, probably because it was.. I can see the South leading the way to progressivism, and they should because they need progress.
Good to see this in GD... you have more courage than me, my friend.
erronis
(15,257 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)mountain grammy
(26,621 posts)of Howard Dean, you know, the 50 state party approach that gave us a super majority in the Congress and a Democratic president. Remember that one? Do you think we should do that again? I do. How many seats have we lost since we abandoned that strategy? Damn, somebody better be talking about it.
George II
(67,782 posts)....but there was a lot more involved than a 50-state strategy.
We had probably the most charismatic Presidential candidate since JFK, maybe even more so than even him, there was a looming depression worse than any in our history except for the "Great Depression" of the 1930s, and there were two ill-conceived wars going on because of one of the most inept administrations in our history.
To attribute our gains in 2008 only to a 50-state strategy is political naivety. What we really need is candidates that fit in their districts so they can compete with republican candidates.
mountain grammy
(26,621 posts)Not only losing the House but state legislatures in a census year giving Republicans big majorities necessary for redistricting which became gerrymandering on steroids with no organized pushback from the Democratic Party.
Guess our candidates didn't fit in their districts, huh? Or, maybe the DNC abandoned local elections. I saw that happen in Colorado. I think our national party supporting local, grassroots candidates is necessary for Democratic candidates to win and I will continue to donate to and support candidates that support the Democratic agenda whether they be in my own district or somewhere else.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)punished Pres. Obama for not getting single payer....elections have consequences...12 was better than expected...14 again Democrats didn't show up and we got Gorsuch...see a pattern here? We squandered six years of a Democratic President because he couldn't fulfil our hopes and dreams in two years and ended up with a gerrymandered House. Now I will say this to those who think Sen. Sanders should run...you are wrong. If he runs, we lose 20 period end of story. We need fresh faces and to put 16 behind us. We don't need a nominee who will run against the party while running against Republicans...not that I think Sen. Sanders can win a primary. No, more likely, the usual suspects will scream that 20 was rigged and unfair. Regardless of your opinion of the MLK function...many others disagree and it has caused controversy, and there is too much drama with Sen. Sanders. We need to focus on beating Republicans in 18 and 20. I hope he will not run. It would be a disaster.
George II
(67,782 posts)....."he hasn't done this yet....", "he hasn't done that yet....", "he promised but...." They were relentless.
It got so bad around here that a few months into Obama's Presidency I signed off DU and didn't come back for about two years.
No, abandoning the 50-state strategy isn't what cost all those seats, it was purists who demanded perfection or they wouldn't vote that cost us many of those seats.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)I've read several articles that dispute the effectiveness of the 50 state strategy. While it helped in many areas, it hurt in others by spending in states & districts where there was no hope of victory which diverted those funds from districts that were very close. In one article is was estimated that caused the loss of at least 5 or so additional seats for the Dems.
Skittles
(153,160 posts)Nanjeanne
(4,960 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)..and for challenging the usual headline narrative.
dembotoz
(16,804 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)How convincing.
stranger81
(2,345 posts)by known Sanders detractors.
Cha
(297,237 posts)not like BS. The list doesn't just come out of thin air.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)I dont like them because they are all great people (they may well be but that isnt my point), I like them because if we have 218 of them in the house, we get to stop the Nazi's
you know, the NAZI'S who are targeting Vietnamese
whathehell
(29,067 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)leftstreet
(36,108 posts)Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)
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George II
(67,782 posts)melman
(7,681 posts)But unlike Briahna Gray, you weren't there. Why should we take your word over hers?
George II
(67,782 posts)....there were a lot more important events taking place that day to memorialize the historic significance of that day.
Cha
(297,237 posts)Cha
(297,237 posts)his words, and how they affected POC whom I respect.
George II
(67,782 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)endearingly no less?
"followed quickly by a black teenager, who endearingly apologized repeatedly to Mr. Sanders
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Maybe if you read it you will find out.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,328 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)...to October, six months ago, to find a "recent" poll to cite?
It's that ubiquitous ONLINE Harvard Harris poll which the pollsters admit was "weighted for age within gender, region, race/ethnicity, marital status, household size, income, employment, political party, political affiliation, and education where necessary to align them with their actual proportions in the population".
That's the poll that asked...."Now we will show you some names. Please indicate if you have a favorable or unfavorable view of that person." and then listed a select group of only 13 people INCLUDING Steve Bannon who had already left the administration months earlier, and Bob Corker, who had already announced he was retiring, and omitted many other public figures.
Clearly the writer had a mission, and it doesn't appear to have been an objective mission.
A Teenager apologizing to BS indeed!
Me.
(35,454 posts)and the answer is as obscure as your post. The entire article has a whiff to me.
How is my post "obscure"?.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)Sanders is a much bigger man than his knee-jerk opponents would have you think. Thanks for posting.
David__77
(23,402 posts)The vibe of liberation is so much better than cynicism.
lapucelle
(18,258 posts)asserts Ms. Gray in another puff piece.
"But more relevant than whether Sanders has done enough to support the party itself should be whether Sanders has worked hard in service of the partys ideals. After all, what would it mean to promote a party that stood for nothing?"
I'm not sure why anyone on DU would take seriously the musings of someone who insists that the Democratic Party stands for nothing. Someone should forward a copy of the Democratic Party platform to Ms. Gray stat. She's apparently never bothered to read it.
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/10/bernie-sanders-isnt-a-democrat-thank-god
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,328 posts)The quote doesnt say you apparently think it does.
She says without the partys ideals the party stands for nothing. She is not saying the party stands for nothing. She is saying a party without ideals is just a party.
She is saying the Democratic Party has ideals worth promoting otherwise, promoting just a party would be futile.
Im sure you can find something else to not like about this piece but that quote aint it.
lapucelle
(18,258 posts)"Bernie Sanders Is Not a Democrat...Thank God". It doesn't get any plainer than that, no matter how you try to spin it.
That sure is a hit piece on the Democratic Party. Methinks Briahna doesn't like us much.
Thanks for the link to Current Affairs...interesting read.
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/10/bernie-sanders-isnt-a-democrat-thank-god
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)fact based article..
"Mayor Lumumbas closing remarks at the panel reinforced the theme that identity alone is not enough: There was a time, he explained, where our fight was to get leadership that looked like us. Now our mission must be to have leadership that thinks like us.
ms liberty
(8,574 posts)I'm sure the haters have hurled all over the thread; I'll wait until lunch to look...or maybe just avoid them entirely. They've got one note, and it's sour.
KTM
(1,823 posts)This paragraph jumped out, but the entire thing stands in contrast to the deconstructions we see here.
Progressive dog
(6,904 posts)Even before he went, some did not want him there.
" I was feeling Bernie.
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Yet some people can't be invited to the cookout. They just can't. They might sound like they are kinda down but then they open their mouth a few too many times, and there it isnonsense just flows freely from their lips like water over Niagara falls. Bernie cannot come to the cookout. Sorry, not sorry."
http://www.jacksonfreepress.com/news/2018/apr/04/opinion-mississippi-womens-activistbernie-sanders-/
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)G_j
(40,367 posts)its nice to see some balance attempted here.
thanks!