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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWe are probably the closest we have ever been to a nuclear war.
and its because of a tweet.
The lowest the Doomsday clock from the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists has been is 2 min. Before now that was in
1949: The Soviet Union denies it, but in the fall, President Harry Truman tells the American public that the Soviets tested their first nuclear device, officially starting the arms race. "We do not advise Americans that doomsday is near and that they can expect atomic bombs to start falling on their heads a month or year from now," the Bulletin explains. "But we think they have reason to be deeply alarmed and to be prepared for grave decisions."https://thebulletin.org/timeline
On Jan 25th of this year, it made it back down to 2 min.
Now we have Russia and the US threatening to start shooting at each other. Id bet we are closer right now than 2 min.
From a tweet. Insane.
I just don't get why people trust what Trump is saying. I have little doubt Trump and Putin have arranged this dance.
rzemanfl
(29,567 posts)with Drumpf about their plans. I agree this is a choreographed show as far a Drumpf and Vlad are concerned. Drumpf will fire missiles. Putin will claim to have shot them down. Drumpf will say something stupid like "nuh-uh" and we will go back to talking about Stormy Daniels and Donald's wee wee. The U.S. will be out millions for a fireworks show in the desert.
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)Don't you know that is bad for business?
NRaleighLiberal
(60,018 posts)Eko
(7,338 posts)upside down and right side up!!!!!! lol.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,191 posts)In the end, the worst that will happen is that another empty Syrian airbase gets bombed. No one should buy any of this.
Eko
(7,338 posts)It could be, but the rhetoric has increased by magnitudes.
doc03
(35,363 posts)I think that was by far worse. One exception Kennedy and Khrushchev were not nuts.
hatrack
(59,592 posts)1. The Cubans had independent launch capability, and Castro said years later that if we'd gone in with a full-scale invasion, he would have launched.
2. US bombers routinely flew past their fail-safe points throughout the Crisis.
3. A test tape mistakenly running on a SAC computer showed a launch from Cuba with impact near Tampa.
4. PAL (Permissive Action Lock) systems - essentially, multi-stage launch safeguards - were not in place for the first Minuteman wings that had just come on line.
5. Two of three launch officers on board the B-59, a Soviet sub, agreed to fire a nuclear torpedo after US sailors dropped practice depth charges (about the size of a grenade) to warn the sub away from the blockade line. Luckily, all three launch officers had to concur.
6. Responding to a U2 overflight of the Soviet Far East, the USSR scrambled fighters from Wrangel island; USAF responded with F-102s armed with nuclear air-to-air missiles.
And that's not all. We came much, much closer than was generally known at the time.
Eko
(7,338 posts)No, no way.
There would be national alerts and recalls for all armed forces personnel, fleets putting to sea, aircraft staging to bases around the world, mobilization of regular and (potentially) reserve units.
It would be the only story on the news if it happened.
Eko
(7,338 posts)during the gulf war.
Eko
(7,338 posts)But if you look at the timeline it doesn't quite show that. I fully understand that at that time it could have dipped lower than 2 though.
Thanks,
Eko
Takket
(21,616 posts)don't let the false bravado and heated words fool you, they are the same team, doing all this for show
misanthrope
(7,421 posts)All Trump is missing is an upcoming tweet with the time, place and target of the missile strikes so his buddies overseas are thoroughly warned about upcoming kabuki.