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Wednesdays

(17,379 posts)
10. So naturally, the next chess move:
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 09:42 PM
Apr 2018

By this time next week, someone will be indicted on state-level charges. Something that tRump can't pardon his way out of.

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JDC

(10,127 posts)
15. Dolt doesn't even know who Scooter Libby is.
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 09:58 PM
Apr 2018

He probably balked because of the name Scooter. Made fun of it. Then someone explained it's just a nickname, his real name is Lewis. Then Trump said "I knew that." He then thought about how he thinks the name Valerie Plame is sexy, although he has no idea who she is, then signed the pretty book that Pence called him back into the room to sign after he almost left....Presidenting is easy...

Takket

(21,572 posts)
17. "Then-President George Bush commuted Libby's 30-month sentence, sparing him prison time, but didn't
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 10:04 PM
Apr 2018

pardon him."

What exactly does the pardon do? if he isn't in jail.............

dsc

(52,162 posts)
18. restores all his rights so he isn't a felon
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 10:06 PM
Apr 2018

In many states felons can't vote, felons can't own guns, many companies won't employ felons. He can honestly answer that he wasn't convicted if he gets the pardon.

struggle4progress

(118,285 posts)
20. No, it doesn't erase the conviction
Thu Apr 12, 2018, 10:57 PM
Apr 2018
... While a presidential pardon will restore various rights lost as a result of the pardoned offense and should lessen to some extent the stigma arising from a conviction, it will not erase or expunge the record of your conviction. Therefore, even if you are granted a pardon, you must still disclose your conviction on any form where such information is required, although you may also disclose the fact that you received a pardon. In addition, most civil disabilities attendant upon a federal felony conviction, such as loss of the right to vote and hold state public office, are imposed by state rather than federal law, and also may be removed by state action. Because the federal pardon process is exacting and may be more time-consuming than analogous state procedures, you may wish to consult with the appropriate authorities in the state of your residence regarding the procedures for restoring your state civil rights ...

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardon-information-and-instructions
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