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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAle (Aliasvaughn) is once again making a lot of sense on Twitter.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/984522480734875648.html1. My peeps, we're at act 1 of SUBPOENA FEST. Trump is NOT going to sit with Mueller, and let me tell you, no way Mueller didn't expect this when he handed over the Cohen case to SDNY.
2. This means it is GRAND JURY show time. There is NO choice here for Trump. If he so much as thinks of ignoring the subpoena, Marshals will be sent over to take him in front of the Grand Jury.
3. And by this I mean yes, sent over to the White House. And in NO WAY would Secret Service stop Court Marshals for Trump. This isn't a CHOICE to appear in front of a Grand Jury, it's an obligation. AND he has no escape bc there is precedent: with Bill Clinton.
4. Trump has ZERO chance now, bc he can't even litigate it successfully, due to the Clinton precedent. Even better, Clinton's full testimony was recorded and broadcast on closed-circuit TV AND a month later it broadcast by ALL networks, for the American people to see.
SNIP
AJT
(5,240 posts)He may not feel he needs 45s testimony for an obstruction charge.
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)Enjoy what?
For starter's, their ruthless, baseless pursuit of Bill Clinton come back to bite them on the a$$.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Stallion
(6,474 posts)the Subpoena of the Nixon tapes are precedent but he never sat before a grand jury-so this might be a matter of first impression
Note in Jones v Clinton the SCOTUS ruled 9-0 that there is no immunity from proceeding with a civil case while a President is sitting in office but held:
The court also found that "our decision rejecting the immunity claim and allowing the case to proceed does not require us to confront the question whether a court may compel the attendance of the President at any specific time or place."[1]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_v._Jones
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Doesn't seem very voluntary to me.
Stallion
(6,474 posts)....and the SCOTUS expressly said it was an issue they weren't ruling on. Significantly it would probably take at a minimum of 6-9 months to get a final ruling even if the issue was expedited through Trial Court, Appellate Court and SCOTUS so you better be prepared that Trump can extend determination of this issue by playing hard-ball
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)the most likely outcome is that it would be defeated either in the House or the Senate.
Next January, assuming the D's control the House, we will be in a much stronger position.