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Friday Toon Roundup 1 - Ineffective ass-ferret (Original Post) n2doc Apr 2018 OP
The budget genius who gave America a $1 trillion deficit to make the rich richer. dalton99a Apr 2018 #1
Thanks for the toons! PatSeg Apr 2018 #2
all toons planetc Apr 2018 #3
Excellent Doc! Dyedinthewoolliberal Apr 2018 #4
Thank you for the cartoons Gothmog Apr 2018 #5
K & R and way past time to look at Congressional pensions mountain grammy Apr 2018 #6
Agreed. LONG past time. Scarsdale Apr 2018 #7
They are about the same as every federal pension. Scruffy1 Apr 2018 #12
Well, not exactly.. mountain grammy Apr 2018 #13
But I completely agree that congressional mountain grammy Apr 2018 #17
He'll do a lot better than $84,000 a year over all, but he won't get a pension quite that large. RVN VET71 Apr 2018 #8
The second-last one has a really sharp point. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2018 #9
KICK Angry Dragon Apr 2018 #10
"So long, suckers" oasis Apr 2018 #11
K & R...nt Wounded Bear Apr 2018 #14
K&R burrowowl Apr 2018 #15
Kay and are alfredo Apr 2018 #16
I've been away for a while thecrow Apr 2018 #18

mountain grammy

(26,621 posts)
6. K & R and way past time to look at Congressional pensions
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 10:38 AM
Apr 2018

although it's pocket change compared to the bribes.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
7. Agreed. LONG past time.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 10:57 AM
Apr 2018

They do nothing for citizens, line their pockets with "donations" to fulfill the wishes of the rich, then retire with a pension from the people they have ignored for years. Also, with great healthcare for the entire family.

Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
12. They are about the same as every federal pension.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 01:29 PM
Apr 2018

I don't know where the nonsense about congressional pensions started, but it seems to have became a belief clear across the interest. The federal pension is 1% of your high five times years of service. It is mostly funded through a payroll deduction. To be eligible you must meet the rule of a total of years of service plus age reaching 85. The only thing Congress critters get that is different is that they are vested after 2 years rather than five, which I have no problem with, since it's a temp job. The real money is in what you do after leaving. Corporate board seats pay a lot for doing little. Think tanks pay even more and lobbying is the jackpot, I have read that Paul Ryan is a multimillionaire on a Congressman's pay. Speaking fees, I suppose. Book deals can bring in a bundle. I have no idea how you stop what is obvious bribery by corporate America. The last Republican senator we ousted in my state got a million a year job in DC with an Israeli outfit and on it goes. Personally, I would like to see a ban on taking corporate board seats, think tank jobs and lobbying for at least five years, but I know this is probably unconstitutional.
The rewards for pro business politicians is what keeps the game going. If you are a liberal and pro consumer your job opportunities are a lot more limited, but there are almost as many Democrats serving on corporate boards as Republicans.

mountain grammy

(26,621 posts)
13. Well, not exactly..
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 02:09 PM
Apr 2018
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets/080416/how-congress-retirement-pay-compares-overall-average.asp

and, compared to the huge majority of Americans, very generous. I have no problem with federal employees getting pensions, in fact I think everyone should, but Congress critters do quite well for themselves.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/05/retirement/congressional-pensions/index.html

mountain grammy

(26,621 posts)
17. But I completely agree that congressional
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 05:21 PM
Apr 2018

Pensions are not the problem. It’s everything you said. Sorry I didn’t say that in my first reply.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
8. He'll do a lot better than $84,000 a year over all, but he won't get a pension quite that large.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:40 AM
Apr 2018

Remember Eric Cantor, the other "wunderkinder" who got kicked out by Virginia voters who thought he was too liberal? He went on to a $3,000,000 a year job on Wall Street. I imagine little boy biceps will do the same.

But about that pension: he likely won't receive one. Congresscritters who were elected before 2003 had the option of signing up for a Federal pension or just selling their souls to corporate industry. Most choose the latter. But even had Ryan signed up for Federal retirement bennies, he most likely would not have been eligible for a pension equal to 50% of his salary. Per the Congressional Research Service report on Congressional pensions:

"There were 611 retired Members of Congress receiving federal pensions based fully or in part on their congressional service as of October 1, 2016. Of this number, 335 had retired under CSRS and were receiving an average annual pension of $74,028. A total of 276 Members had retired with service under FERS and were receiving an average annual pension of $41,076 in 2016."

If the granny starver had been covered by Federal retirement it would have been FERS, and his pension would be good -- about $55,000 -- but not $84,000.

He wouldn't have to struggle along with "only" $55,000 a year, of course, because his Social Security (assuming his fellow legislators don't sink it) ultimately will bring in another $30,000 a year, and his thrift savings plan account (TSP) could double that amount. Add that to a multi-million dollar Wall Street gig, and our boy-champion of mendacity should be able to live a life of heartless and conscience-free comfort despite the economic chaos he and his Party will have generated in the country.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
9. The second-last one has a really sharp point.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:43 AM
Apr 2018

It's possible that Ryan's seat is as safe as any other GOP seat, so...

thecrow

(5,519 posts)
18. I've been away for a while
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 12:32 AM
Apr 2018

so coming back and seeing the toons made me smile!
Thank you for all your work putting them on DU!

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