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wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:03 AM Apr 2018

My blood preasure is up. Just replied to some cousins on facebook who posted shit saying liberals

Last edited Fri Apr 13, 2018, 07:41 PM - Edit history (1)

disrespect or hate the flag.

The thing that gets me is they honestly believe that shit is true.

Then I read trumps tweets.

There isn't a fucking ounce of truth or honesty on the right yet they believe we are the bad guys!

Follow up:

So now they are saying we can disagree without being unpleasant.

And are posting stories of people disrespecting the flag.

I replied that you said liberals (like all liberals) disrespect the flag

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My blood preasure is up. Just replied to some cousins on facebook who posted shit saying liberals (Original Post) wasupaloopa Apr 2018 OP
Hide them in your feed. MissB Apr 2018 #1
Leaving Facebook a couple years ago was the best thing for my BP. sarcasmo Apr 2018 #7
And Republicans fly the Confederate flag inspite of it being a losing unamerican POS BoneyardDem Apr 2018 #2
Its staggering to see all the insanity packed into one post. VOX Apr 2018 #37
They want to destroy this country California_Republic Apr 2018 #3
I don't understand people who worship the flag as if it were an holy relic. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #4
It is idolatry. Mariana Apr 2018 #24
Don't reply to them. Unfriend them. Whatever it takes. I did and do not regret it.....:)) dameatball Apr 2018 #5
Unsubscribe and close your fakebook account. democratisphere Apr 2018 #6
Patriotism is always strongest in those who have no accomplishments to their names. Aristus Apr 2018 #8
Facebook sucks and it makes people crappy, petty... Anon-C Apr 2018 #9
Most of the time they already were that way Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #26
That shit pisses me off more than anything. Initech Apr 2018 #10
Yes, I'm in your camp. LisaM Apr 2018 #29
I always say if you have to tell me you're a super patriot, you're not a super patriot. Initech Apr 2018 #31
Also, if you hang a flag near your house and let it get rained on LisaM Apr 2018 #35
Ditto for the ones who attach them to the roofs of their cars GoCubsGo Apr 2018 #38
I ignore my few RWNJ "friends" Freddie Apr 2018 #11
Next time send them this image of G. Gordon Liddy (Conservative Nutcake) packman Apr 2018 #12
Ahhhhhhhhhhh!!! Can't unsee! Initech Apr 2018 #32
Post the Don't Disrespect My Flag Starter Kit leftstreet Apr 2018 #13
I just reply with mercuryblues Apr 2018 #14
In the history of the United States, we have had more than 50 versions of a US flag, procon Apr 2018 #15
Ask them why they hate Americans. unblock Apr 2018 #16
Try posting this FakeNoose Apr 2018 #17
My best move for those types of friends gratuitous Apr 2018 #18
Better put your hip boots on Runningdawg Apr 2018 #19
The flag gives them cover. It's easier to defend than Trump/GOP policies. nt oasis Apr 2018 #20
White wing nut jobs disrespect just about everything but guns, the "flag, and others just like them. Hoyt Apr 2018 #21
Hate the flag? NOT ciao_bella Apr 2018 #22
About a dozen of my cousins are dead to me. LuckyCharms Apr 2018 #23
..... muntrv Apr 2018 #25
I don't see any liberals equating the US flag with the confederate flag though... ck4829 Apr 2018 #27
A flag is a piece of cloth HopeAgain Apr 2018 #28
Re respecting the flag. Your cousins can go to ebay and purchase a Trump signed American Vinca Apr 2018 #30
let me guess JustAnotherGen Apr 2018 #33
Whenever I discuss the Civil War jes06c Apr 2018 #36
I do too! JustAnotherGen Apr 2018 #40
If you reply turn the tables on your enemies lunatica Apr 2018 #34
Seriously. Dump Facebook. You wont regret it for a second. anneboleyn Apr 2018 #39
Craziness Meowmee Apr 2018 #41
repukes love their flag Skittles Apr 2018 #42
 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
2. And Republicans fly the Confederate flag inspite of it being a losing unamerican POS
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:09 AM
Apr 2018

Republicans tend to think they had a corner on the patriotism market. It's what drives the cult thinking. NRA support, massive debt, massive moral regulations, corrupt administration, coordination with Russians, money laundering, obstruction of justice, using govt position to personally line their pockets, rampant promoted racism, blatant lies to the public, encouraging Russia to hack US citizens emails, demoralizing and attempting to dirty the FBI and CIA for personal gain, using the Justice Department for personal cover ups, none of that seem very American to me.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
37. Its staggering to see all the insanity packed into one post.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 02:21 PM
Apr 2018

I mean, I’m acutely aware of each of their transgressions and outrages (and their getting away with it, for now); but when you string them all together as you did, it really packs a wallop.

California_Republic

(1,826 posts)
3. They want to destroy this country
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:12 AM
Apr 2018

What? We live here. We’ve got businesses and homes and farms here!

That one gets me the most

Mariana

(14,857 posts)
24. It is idolatry.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 12:51 PM
Apr 2018

How much you wanna bet those same people have tattiest, most faded-out raggedy shredded remains of cheapo made in China flags decorating their houses and cars?

dameatball

(7,398 posts)
5. Don't reply to them. Unfriend them. Whatever it takes. I did and do not regret it.....:))
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:16 AM
Apr 2018

Actually I did away with Facebook over a year ago, so it is now a moot point. But I wouldn't give the bastids the time of day if I were you.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
6. Unsubscribe and close your fakebook account.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:16 AM
Apr 2018

It will lower your blood pressure and your relatives won't be able to upset you!

Aristus

(66,369 posts)
8. Patriotism is always strongest in those who have no accomplishments to their names.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:19 AM
Apr 2018

They think it's something that distinguishes them from everyone else.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
26. Most of the time they already were that way
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 12:54 PM
Apr 2018

Curating ones feed and friends is what helps. Just like in real life.

Initech

(100,076 posts)
10. That shit pisses me off more than anything.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:23 AM
Apr 2018

I had to unload on somebody at a party who turned an innocent discussion on football into an "NFL players disrespect the flag and hate our country" rant. It was totally unnecessary but these people tend to parrot whatever bullshit they hear on Fox every single chance they get, regardless of whether or not it's appropriate for the conversation. Needless to say I got a lot of looks. But fuck, I hate Fox News and how they hijacked this narrative. I will definitely argue until I'm blue in the face how stupid people are who believe this bullshit nonsense.

LisaM

(27,811 posts)
29. Yes, I'm in your camp.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 01:01 PM
Apr 2018

I prefer to have a few succinct talking points lined up. I think liberals honor the flag more than conservatives do, anyway. People who wave it around too much are the ones who don't think about what it stands for. It's a symbol, and if you can't bother to fight for what it symbolizes, then in my opinion, you disrespect it. And I'm not afraid to say it, either.

Initech

(100,076 posts)
31. I always say if you have to tell me you're a super patriot, you're not a super patriot.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 01:08 PM
Apr 2018

If you claim to know what our founding fathers stood for, but don't know any significance of it, you're not a patriot. If you haven't read the Bill Of Rights past the words "shall not be infringed", you are not a patriot. If you only hear what Fox News tells you then you are not a patriot.

LisaM

(27,811 posts)
35. Also, if you hang a flag near your house and let it get rained on
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 02:12 PM
Apr 2018

and have it up there in the dark, well, then, you also don't know flag etiquette! That always floors me. People who lose their marbles over flag burning don't seem to mind it flying all tattered and ripped to shreds on a big pole in their yard.

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
38. Ditto for the ones who attach them to the roofs of their cars
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 02:31 PM
Apr 2018

They became popular after 9/11. Also against flag etiquette. And, that's before they let them get tattered to shreds. I saw tons of them lying along the roads, and in ditches in the months after the September 11th attack.

Freddie

(9,265 posts)
11. I ignore my few RWNJ "friends"
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:24 AM
Apr 2018

But I don't unfriend them, it can be amusing to see how the other side (supposedly) thinks.
I will set them straight if they post a flat-out untruth. Like my old ex-BF, the Tea Party Patriot (dodged a bullet there!) posted something about "liberals started taxing your SS." Let him know that no, that was your very own St. Ronnie. He had no rebuttal to that.

procon

(15,805 posts)
15. In the history of the United States, we have had more than 50 versions of a US flag,
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:34 AM
Apr 2018

but only 1 Constitution. All Americans have a primary duty to uphold the Constitution first and foremost, and all our public official take a solemn oath to defend it, not a flag, just the Constitution.

The flag is only a logo, an identifier, a symbolic icon like Apple's apple or Tritter's blue birds. No one swears to die for a piece of fabric, but Americans have given their lives to preserve our Inalienable Rights and the Rule of Law that the Constitution provides.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
18. My best move for those types of friends
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:51 AM
Apr 2018

Take them off all my feeds, so that the only time I see anything they post is when another friend comments on something. You don't have to attend every fight you're invited to.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
21. White wing nut jobs disrespect just about everything but guns, the "flag, and others just like them.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 12:26 PM
Apr 2018

To a vast majority of them, the "flag" an mean a confederate or Gadsden flag.

ciao_bella

(8 posts)
22. Hate the flag? NOT
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 12:39 PM
Apr 2018

I attend the monthly local county Democrat meetings and at the start of every meeting we all stand, put our hand over our hearts and say the Pledge of Allegiance. Not exactly flag hating behavior. These Rightwingnuts are just NUTS.

LuckyCharms

(17,440 posts)
23. About a dozen of my cousins are dead to me.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 12:44 PM
Apr 2018

Racist, evangelical, judgmental pricks. I had no idea the extent of their beliefs until they felt free to share them on facebook. Not only that, they made their posts public. Stupid fucking idiots. I told them so, and told them never to talk to me again. No use for people like that, relatives or not.

Vinca

(50,273 posts)
30. Re respecting the flag. Your cousins can go to ebay and purchase a Trump signed American
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 01:01 PM
Apr 2018

flag for $175. Signing the flag is a violation of U.S. law. So who's disrespecting???

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
33. let me guess
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 01:12 PM
Apr 2018

Your cousin loves the johnny reb flag too? I'm always amazed at people that post shit like that -

Then support a foreign army's flag.

jes06c

(114 posts)
36. Whenever I discuss the Civil War
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 02:20 PM
Apr 2018

I NEVER use the he terms "Union" or "Confederate." I make a point of using the terms "American" and "rebel" instead. Never fails to infuriate Southern sympathizers.

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
40. I do too!
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 02:47 PM
Apr 2018


They can't stand it when I point out the truth and let a little thing like FACTS get in the way.

Also - try to point out to them that they even had their OWN MONEY. Online it packs a punch!

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
34. If you reply turn the tables on your enemies
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 01:23 PM
Apr 2018

Never get defensive and don’t try to engage them on any rational level. Do not explain things, especially about yourself. That’s what I mean when I say don’t react defensively.

Just shoot back with a statement that’s similar in nastiness and direct as the statement that just made you mad. Examples of things to say:

Liberals hate the Confederate flag, which, in case you didn’t know, is not the American flag.

Liberals love the flag and what it stands for, not like the NRA who pretend getting rich selling assault rifles is true patriotism.

Liberals hate Deplorables who are ignorant, can’t spell and who need Fox News to tell them what to think.

Liberals hate people who claim they’re Christians but who gladly hate everyone who isn’t just like them.

You get the idea






anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
39. Seriously. Dump Facebook. You wont regret it for a second.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 02:37 PM
Apr 2018

It has become a cesspool for many reasons, and I know that none of us miss Facebook AT ALL. It had become a place dominated by the most shallow types who are there just to post vacation pictures and seek attention and occasionally post political rants (also for the purposes of getting attention). The people with whom we want to be in touch — well we are in touch. The others, who truthfully aren’t really people we were that concerned about before joiningFacebook, like people we see once a year or haven’t seen since college, we see them occasionally or they just fall away as is inevitable and perfectly acceptable in life.

I really don’t think it is helpful at all to read rants or to post replies to them. Nobody has ever converted anyone on Facebook — it’s really a waste of your energy, especially if it gives you anxiety and affects you physically.

In fact people I know who still check their pages periodically do everything they can to hide the idiots who post political rants about anything (but especially pro Trump nonsense).

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
41. Craziness
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 03:53 PM
Apr 2018

About flags is silly. It’s an inanimate object. I don’t believe in any of that. I’d just ignore them if it raises bp to engage. These people have demonstrated many times they don’t care about this country at all by their adherence to hate and who they vote for etc

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