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The Polack MSgt

(13,189 posts)
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 12:12 PM Apr 2018

Comey is an enemy of Democracy...

and 5 months ago I wrote down my thoughts about this guy.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029804605

Not a thing changed between then and now, except that this sucking chest wound in the body politic has a book to plug.

I used to feel a touch guilty about calling these people douches with or with out modifiers such as "Nozzles" or "Bags", figuring that douches at least had a genuine purpose

But I found out since that douche is useless and people would be healthier if they avoided it.

Now I totally feel it's an appropriate insult for this back stabbing traitorous GOP functionary.

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Comey is an enemy of Democracy... (Original Post) The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 OP
Totally Am There With You Me. Apr 2018 #1
Wants something both ways - Pretty apt. ck4829 Apr 2018 #24
Worse Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #2
whatever. your opinion is no more valid than others. I think Comey is fine blake2012 Apr 2018 #3
I agree. fleur-de-lisa Apr 2018 #7
Me too. Capperdan Apr 2018 #53
He claims that he was "maneuvered" into releasing that letter The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #8
Tipping the race 11 days before the election to trump, who he was investigating, by announcing he... brush Apr 2018 #10
so by logical conclusion, you believe he wanted Trump to win blake2012 Apr 2018 #13
Don't know if he wanted trump to win but Comey was no naive rookie. He was a seasoned Washington... brush Apr 2018 #36
His personal opinions were much worse than the investigation news bigbrother05 Apr 2018 #56
Oh, man. I like that last part...fitting punishment for tipping the election to the orange pustule brush Apr 2018 #60
The Greeks were masters at defining fitting punishments bigbrother05 Apr 2018 #61
"But I found out since that douche is useless and people would be healthier if they avoided it. " NCTraveler Apr 2018 #4
heh The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #9
That's funny, just what Putin was telling Cheetolini! marble falls Apr 2018 #5
Somewhat of a revisionist history. Comey asserted a reason why he announced the investigation. Trust Buster Apr 2018 #6
Bingo! Little Star Apr 2018 #11
bingo blake2012 Apr 2018 #14
Comey is trying to redeem himself. He knows he screwed up. Hope the book helps get trump out. brush Apr 2018 #18
i've read how it came about.. stillcool Apr 2018 #20
Republicans point to the Democrats unhappiness with Comey to justify his firing The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #22
Well then you are not willing to give President Obama a pass either I assume ? Trust Buster Apr 2018 #38
There is a difference between silence across the board and on only one side bigbrother05 Apr 2018 #58
No. He is not. kentuck Apr 2018 #12
Trump is in power with this guys help The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #23
And he will remain in power with other people's help. kentuck Apr 2018 #35
In this analogy, we are in the water because of Comey though ck4829 Apr 2018 #46
Intentional or not, he may have turned the boat over... kentuck Apr 2018 #48
Is this a joke thread? nt Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #15
Yes it is. Kaleva Apr 2018 #16
Not at all The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #27
If you look at his life and career as a whole ....that is what I shall judge him on. nt Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #29
He made a promise and he kept it. It can be... LuckyCharms Apr 2018 #17
Oh for Fuck's Sake..... NT Adrahil Apr 2018 #19
Screw the history, hes an ally now YessirAtsaFact Apr 2018 #21
K&R ck4829 Apr 2018 #25
your post is as unsubstantiated by actual fact as it is laden with cheap scatology. (n/t) FreepFryer Apr 2018 #26
I usually like the OP. That being said now is not the time to settle old scores. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #28
Such terrible timing (Comey is now Trumps biggest PR threat) seems unlikely to be accidental. (n/t) FreepFryer Apr 2018 #31
There is a lot of that going around. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #32
seems unlikely to be accidental... The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #43
Bless your heart. (n/t) FreepFryer Apr 2018 #45
I've been saying that too. Comey (and McCabe) are not good guys Azathoth Apr 2018 #30
Comey is unrepentant for helping to elect Trump. He is not comradebillyboy Apr 2018 #33
+1 ck4829 Apr 2018 #41
My favorite tweet on the topic thus far ismnotwasm Apr 2018 #34
Hahahaha! peggysue2 Apr 2018 #62
politically, this isn't the smartest time to open up on Comey bigtree Apr 2018 #37
Sometimes, we don't have the greatest political strategists here... kentuck Apr 2018 #39
Some of us play chess. Some of us play tic tac toe. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #42
I feel compelled to push back on the Comey love train The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #47
Can we support him while he is undermining Trump on his book tour ? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #49
I don't plan on writing dozens of letters to the editor or setting up The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #52
You're not alone in this belief. ck4829 Apr 2018 #50
I don't see a 'love train' bigtree Apr 2018 #59
Comey made a really bad and Progressive dog Apr 2018 #40
Comey is on the side of Comey. ck4829 Apr 2018 #44
I'm no fan of Comey. Scruffy1 Apr 2018 #54
Nobodys saying we have to love the guy, hes just become an ally in the anti-45 battle. VOX Apr 2018 #51
I think Comey was promised the AG job if he took action to harm Hillary. tonyt53 Apr 2018 #55
Do you have any evidence whatsoever for that claim? Is there a record or allegation? FreepFryer Apr 2018 #63
Didn't I start my post by saying "I think"? Oh, I see, you don't like for others to have opinions. tonyt53 Apr 2018 #64
Its just that your made-up bullshit was so SPECIFIC I had to ask before dismissing you. (n/t) FreepFryer Apr 2018 #65
Just what this place needs, another person that thinks their shit doesn't stink. I mean YOU. tonyt53 Apr 2018 #66
Im talking about your words, and you are talking about me (and making up AG offer claims)... FreepFryer Apr 2018 #67
If he helps rid us of Trump at this point hamsterjill Apr 2018 #57
Meh, no he isn't. OnDoutside Apr 2018 #68

Me.

(35,454 posts)
1. Totally Am There With You
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 12:15 PM
Apr 2018

The only thing is that any harm he does to the Comrade In The WH is fine by me. Comey seems to want it both way, being victim and aggressor. Saw a HRC campaign member on MSNBC yesterday and she has no time for him at all.

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
2. Worse
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 12:15 PM
Apr 2018

He set precedent and now Nunes and other nut jobs want the FBI to release info while investigation is still ongoing

 

blake2012

(1,294 posts)
3. whatever. your opinion is no more valid than others. I think Comey is fine
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 12:16 PM
Apr 2018

and it is very difficult to operate as any kind of civil servant in such a highly charged political environment started by Richard Mellon Scaife and continued by the Mercers and other TRUE enemies of Democracy.

Capperdan

(492 posts)
53. Me too.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 02:16 PM
Apr 2018

Too bad he screwed Hillary at the last minute, but, hey, give me a break, he's FBI all the way. At least semi-adult.

The Polack MSgt

(13,189 posts)
8. He claims that he was "maneuvered" into releasing that letter
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 12:26 PM
Apr 2018

By the NY FBI field office, because he didn't want to risk the bureau's "prestige".

He refused to acknowledge an active investigation on Trump and not only allowed the GOP to lie regarding the Clinton investigation but facilitated that lie.Throwing the election into turmoil.

You may think that's "Fine" I do not but, to quote your response... Whatever

brush

(53,784 posts)
10. Tipping the race 11 days before the election to trump, who he was investigating, by announcing he...
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 12:27 PM
Apr 2018

he was reopening the email investigation against Clinton is not fine.

HE DID NOT DISCLOSE THAT HE WAS ALSO INVESTIGATING TRUMP—SINCE THE SUMMER OF 2016.

That is not fine and is a clear violation of the Hatch Act.

 

blake2012

(1,294 posts)
13. so by logical conclusion, you believe he wanted Trump to win
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 12:30 PM
Apr 2018

nothing about Comey or Trump or Hillary lead me to believe that was Comey's calculus in deciding to announce what he announced.

brush

(53,784 posts)
36. Don't know if he wanted trump to win but Comey was no naive rookie. He was a seasoned Washington...
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 01:36 PM
Apr 2018

Last edited Fri Apr 13, 2018, 03:12 PM - Edit history (2)

player who had to know the letter to Chaffetz would be leaked and tip the election to trump.

I don't buy the innocent act that he thought Clinton had no chance of loosing.

I do buy that he got snookered by Ghouliani and the rogue NY FBI agents working against Hillary.

He should've investigated the alleged "new emails" before releasing that letter to Congress. He would've found they were duplicates and would not have made that huge mistake by violation the Hatch Act 11 days before an election.

He also should've exerted control over the NY office, threatened to fire those insubordinate agents.

Too many mistakes for the director of the FBI wouldn't you say?

And btw, he, like trump, is a repug, for whatever that's worth.

Now he knows he screwed up.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
56. His personal opinions were much worse than the investigation news
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 02:39 PM
Apr 2018

His holier than thou pronouncements when he owned up to finding nothing wrong in the investigation was the clincher for me.

"It's not illegal, but she still sucks!"

He should be made to stand guard when Trump showers at Leavenworth when the trial is over. That would be a fitting Greek tragic ending for them both.

brush

(53,784 posts)
60. Oh, man. I like that last part...fitting punishment for tipping the election to the orange pustule
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 03:10 PM
Apr 2018
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
4. "But I found out since that douche is useless and people would be healthier if they avoided it. "
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 12:19 PM
Apr 2018

Glad you have since found a healthier option.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
6. Somewhat of a revisionist history. Comey asserted a reason why he announced the investigation.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 12:21 PM
Apr 2018

The New York FBI office was a pro-Republican rogue office. Comey knew that they were starting to leak to Giuliani and others. He took the unprecedented action so that the New York office did not control the narrative. That would have been even worse for Hillary. Today, the Republicans point to the Democrats unhappiness with Comey to justify his firing. For better or for worse, Comey is now an asset to us. Please quit supporting the Republican narrative.

brush

(53,784 posts)
18. Comey is trying to redeem himself. He knows he screwed up. Hope the book helps get trump out.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 12:40 PM
Apr 2018

Last edited Fri Apr 13, 2018, 01:42 PM - Edit history (1)

But we still should remember what Comey did.

As you said he knew Ghouliani and the rogue NY agents were scheming against Clinton but he took no action against them. And he still didn't after he found out the new emails were just dupicates, maybe even planted on Weiner's computer.

He was their boss. He should've threatened to fire their asses but instead fell for their fake new emails scam.

He made a lot of mistakes in those last few days before the election, including not investigating the alleged new emails before announcing it in that Oct. 28 letter to Congress. He would've found out quickly that they were duplicates, which he did find but after he send the letter thus tipping the election to trump.

He also clearly violated the Hatch act by inserting last minute pollitics into the election.

You kinda want the head of the FBI to be a little smarter than that. No, a lot smarter.

I'll hold my fire but I won't forget what he did.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
20. i've read how it came about..
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 12:59 PM
Apr 2018

and how the choice wasn't so much a choice, but thought Congress was leaking. I suppose people heading agencies should be more politically savvy, rather than just good at their job...they'll take heat no matter what, if they're human.

The Polack MSgt

(13,189 posts)
22. Republicans point to the Democrats unhappiness with Comey to justify his firing
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 01:11 PM
Apr 2018

So, sweep everything away to try and force the Trumpsters to come up with a new lie to justify what they do?

Seems a tiny payback for giving this guy a pass

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
38. Well then you are not willing to give President Obama a pass either I assume ?
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 01:42 PM
Apr 2018

He too was dealing with a maniac on the campaign trail convincing half of the country that the election was going to be rigged in favor of Hillary. Obama wanted McConnel to put out a bipartisan statement reguarding the Russian efforts so as not to look like he was placing a thumb on the scale thus playing into Don the Con’s “rigged” narrative. McConnel refused to do so.

Now don the Con’s narrative is that the investigation is “rigged”. If there is one thing that the Democrats can do to help the con man with that narrative, it would be to continue to trash Comey. If trashing Comey is so important to you, the go ahead and help build that con man’s narrative for him. Enjoy.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
58. There is a difference between silence across the board and on only one side
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 02:45 PM
Apr 2018

Comey was just covering his own ass because he knew how the GOP would handle it and he didn't want the grief.

The Polack MSgt

(13,189 posts)
23. Trump is in power with this guys help
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 01:12 PM
Apr 2018

He controlled his own actions and the option HE PICKED put Trump in the WH

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
35. And he will remain in power with other people's help.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 01:32 PM
Apr 2018

If you are drowning, you do not crap on a person about to throw you a life preserver, because you are pissed that they did you wrong at some time in the past.

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
48. Intentional or not, he may have turned the boat over...
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 02:08 PM
Apr 2018

But, screw him! We don't need no life preserver! It's his fault we are drowning. ???

The Polack MSgt

(13,189 posts)
27. Not at all
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 01:20 PM
Apr 2018

What good does embracing this guy do?

Why? Why give him any thing at all?

He was never going to do the right thing in 2016

He may have thought that this admin wasn't going to be this bad, but so what?

He put his thumb on the scale to help his party's candidate

LuckyCharms

(17,441 posts)
17. He made a promise and he kept it. It can be...
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 12:36 PM
Apr 2018

argued successfully that the promise should not have been made in the first place. He fucked up, he is human like the rest of us.

I don't think it's a good idea to repeat enemy talking points at this stage in the game.

The Polack MSgt

(13,189 posts)
43. seems unlikely to be accidental...
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 01:49 PM
Apr 2018

Say what you mean

Accuse me straight up - if you want to call me a RWNJ or Russian Troll, fucking do so

Azathoth

(4,609 posts)
30. I've been saying that too. Comey (and McCabe) are not good guys
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 01:25 PM
Apr 2018

McCabe kept the Clinton investigation going long after DOJ prosecutors told him they didn't see any case, and Comey literally handed Trump the presidency two years ago. This retroactive rationalizing and apologizing we hear now about how a handful of anti-Clinton fanatics somehow "forced" the freaking Director of the FBI into interfering in a presidential election drives me crazy.

Comey is obsessed with his own sense of rectitude and "higher duty." Both he and McCabe were Republican careerists who were happy to use the Bureau's resources to shit on Democrats over minor things, only to turn around and find themselves facing unprecedented criminality in their own party. Both of them got tripped up by the IG and, at least Comey, deserved to get fired.

comradebillyboy

(10,151 posts)
33. Comey is unrepentant for helping to elect Trump. He is not
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 01:29 PM
Apr 2018

our ally. He's only settling personal grievances with his book. I am happy to see Trump suffer, but I will never believe that Comey is anything but a self serving jerk.

peggysue2

(10,829 posts)
62. Hahahaha!
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 03:50 PM
Apr 2018

That's one way of looking at the situation we're in.

Strange times make for strange bedfellows. Comey has made mistakes, certainly. His willingness to break FBI protocol when it came to HRC's email situation is an obvious one. Regardless of his reasoning, that was then, this is now.

The idea that any Trumpster gave a shit about how HRC was abused by Comey's action is laughable. The bottom line is that James Comey knows who the Trumpster and his odious cohorts were and are and he has no problem calling them out, anymore than Mueller feels restricted in following the evidence and putting together a case, regardless of how it makes the Trumpster and his enablers look.

Because? Rule of Law. Which--when our better angels are fully engaged--applies to every citizen: high or low, rich or poor, arrogant or humble.

Don't be deceived in taking on the Trumpster/alt-right narrative, as in shooting the messenger because the message is so damaging. We don't need to worship Comey, think of him as some wounded hero or even like him personally. But we should be willing to support his professional stance, the investigation already underway before Mueller entered the picture and his refusal to stand down to the growing propaganda headwinds. Same thing with Rosenstein or Mueller himself. They are doing the People's work, attempting to safeguard the country from a bunch of bandits and treason weasels.

We can match their work by ensuring a massive win in November, neutering the GOP's worse instincts of going along to get along. And/or avoid their own legal entanglement.

This is our storyline now! Don't allow the enemy to hi-jack the real narrative:

As Rick Wilson has said repeatedly, Everything Trump Touches Dies. He and his enablers are the biggest security risk to the country at large and they must be held accountable. Sooner rather than later.




bigtree

(85,998 posts)
37. politically, this isn't the smartest time to open up on Comey
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 01:38 PM
Apr 2018

...not on the exact same day Trump is using the same arguments to discredit him.

What's the urgency in criticizing Comey today? What possible purpose does it serve to be advocating against him at the same time he's emerging as an instrumental figure in bringing Trump down?

I say this with all due respect (and understanding) to your view of him.

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
39. Sometimes, we don't have the greatest political strategists here...
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 01:44 PM
Apr 2018

They are rather short-sighted sometimes.

The Polack MSgt

(13,189 posts)
47. I feel compelled to push back on the Comey love train
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 02:01 PM
Apr 2018

I do not believe that he acted honorably.

And if he has buyers remorse now, that doesn't clear the slate in my eyes and I don't think giving him a pass is helpful in the short or long term for the Democratic Party.

I am not convinced he was an innocent abused by forces more politically savvy than he was - I think his eyes were wide open when he chose to disobey the AG (his boss), skirt the edge of the Hatch Act (at best) and give a boost to the GOP

This guy is not the former head of the FBI that deserves the benefit of the doubt or our support.

The Polack MSgt

(13,189 posts)
52. I don't plan on writing dozens of letters to the editor or setting up
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 02:14 PM
Apr 2018

Petitions to condemn the man

I'm ranting about a fucking GOP beaurocrat who fucked us - Just 18 months ago

On a Democratic website

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
50. You're not alone in this belief.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 02:11 PM
Apr 2018

And besides, treating Comey as someone who is not a friend will confuse the 'other side of the aisle'. We need to remember, we're dealing with people who think Pizzagate was a thing, who will, if liberals say "two eyes are better than one", probably consider gouging out an eye just to spite those liberals. After Roy Moore, I'm not sure how much of an exaggeration that is anymore.

If anything, not rushing out to love Comey is the smartest move we can make.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
59. I don't see a 'love train'
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 02:51 PM
Apr 2018

...I may be missing something.

What I see is some smart politics, putting this grievance aside which can't really be remedied, and doing the exact reverse of what Trump is doing; using this republican as a wedge against his presidency and party.

Progressive dog

(6,904 posts)
40. Comey made a really bad and
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 01:48 PM
Apr 2018

Last edited Fri Apr 13, 2018, 04:32 PM - Edit history (1)

probably illegal decision about the HRC investigation. At the same time, he was silent about the Trump/Putin investigation. This did cost HRC the election. Then, the beneficiary of Comey's public attack on Hillary, turns on Comey when Comey refuses to end the Trump/Putin investigation.
Comey is now on the side of democracy. That doesn't excuse what he did, but I sure don't want to partcipate in driving him into Trump's embrace again.

Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
54. I'm no fan of Comey.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 02:19 PM
Apr 2018

However his book will probably sway a few people, so for now he is useful. He's still a gutless bastard in my opinion who would always bow to the Repblicans.He's most worried about his reputation and trying to look better. I've already seen the real Comey

VOX

(22,976 posts)
51. Nobodys saying we have to love the guy, hes just become an ally in the anti-45 battle.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 02:13 PM
Apr 2018

Nobody is saying that he’s forgiven his past actions, but given the immediate situation, Comey is about as good as an anti-45 “weapon” as it gets.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
55. I think Comey was promised the AG job if he took action to harm Hillary.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 02:29 PM
Apr 2018

trump and his handlers had no intention of making him AG, but sure wanted to use and abuse him. Comey did his part and trump did his usual and lied to him.

FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
63. Do you have any evidence whatsoever for that claim? Is there a record or allegation?
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 06:01 PM
Apr 2018

Is it your own personal hypothesis?

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
64. Didn't I start my post by saying "I think"? Oh, I see, you don't like for others to have opinions.
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 05:49 PM
Apr 2018

Get used to disappointment then. When I have an opinion, I'll give it.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
66. Just what this place needs, another person that thinks their shit doesn't stink. I mean YOU.
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:06 PM
Apr 2018

Exactly what basis do you have to say it isn't fact? NONE. Just because your mind is so simplistic that you can't comprehend an action as I suggested means that you think that only you can decide what did/does happen. You are wasting my time. Done with you.

FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
67. Im talking about your words, and you are talking about me (and making up AG offer claims)...
Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:16 PM
Apr 2018

When you are ready to talk about what is known, and not contribute nonsense whole-cloth, I’ll be ready for the conversation as ever.

Cheers!

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
57. If he helps rid us of Trump at this point
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 02:42 PM
Apr 2018

Comey can be my best friend. There’s no way to undue the past. If Comey speaks out against Trump now, I’ll take what I can get.

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