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jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 04:13 PM Apr 2018

I'm calling shenanigans on Keith Davidson


So with the lastest GOP hush money thing, this certainly jumps out:


The lawyer for the woman, Keith M. Davidson, also represented two women who were paid during the presidential campaign for their silence about alleged affairs with Mr. Trump...


How on earth was Davidson getting these referrals?
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I'm calling shenanigans on Keith Davidson (Original Post) jberryhill Apr 2018 OP
STORMY DANIELSS LAWYER, WHO NEGOTIATED HUSH MONEY DEAL, LOST HIS LICENSE TWICE DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #1
Shenanigans indeed... Adrahil Apr 2018 #2
The lawyer for two of the women "wronged" by the traitor? Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #3
Oh, I missed that part jberryhill Apr 2018 #4
Isnt the atty who represented the woman thought to be working with Cohen all along? Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #5
Thought to be and shown to be are two different things jberryhill Apr 2018 #7
Guy has been disbarred twice and the other guy is Cohen, so more likely than not IMO Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #8
No, he was never disbarred jberryhill Apr 2018 #9
Is an oral agreement dealing with selling stock representing hundreds of thousands Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #10
I'd need more context jberryhill Apr 2018 #11
One corp officer buying stock from another, or the corp buying stock from Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #12
Not my area jberryhill Apr 2018 #13
Sorry, trying to get free advice Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #14
Turds tend to stick together tonyt53 Apr 2018 #6
Noted that as well DeminPennswoods Apr 2018 #15

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
3. The lawyer for two of the women "wronged" by the traitor?
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 04:16 PM
Apr 2018

Oh fuck, just read the link

sounds like republicans

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
4. Oh, I missed that part
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 04:23 PM
Apr 2018

Yeah, as for the persons involved in these dealings (and wholly apart from where the money came from and how it was handled), I'm not seeing anyone who didn't voluntarily do or agree to whatever it is they did and agreed to.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
5. Isnt the atty who represented the woman thought to be working with Cohen all along?
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 04:25 PM
Apr 2018

Disbarred twice.

Cohen is one of the worst humans alive, but his boss is the worst outside of killers.

You called it. This is big news.

BTW, ONE one THOUSANDTH of the lies, crimes, allegations, scandals, acts of treason, felonies commited by a democrat, just one, and they are gone, overnight.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
7. Thought to be and shown to be are two different things
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 04:42 PM
Apr 2018

I know a lot of people operate on the principle of reaching conclusions that suit what they believe.

Beliefs are fine. They are not facts.

That all this business funneled through Davidson is kind of odd, but Davidson has been a broker of unseemly information for quite some time.

It's also not unusual to refer an adverse party to counsel. It doesn't necessarily imply any sort of sneaky arrangement.

For example, when I am representing a client against an unrepresented party, it is frequently the case that I'd prefer that adverse party be represented by an attorney who is competent in the relevant area. The simplest reason in those situations is that I can't give the other party advice on the relevant law to even get them to the point where they can resolve the dispute in any rational way. So, yes, I'll say, "Hey, here are the contacts for a couple of lawyers who know this stuff. How about you see if one of them suits you?" or something to that effect. I don't expect people to believe me when I tell them "you have no claim here", but I do expect people to believe that if they write a check to another attorney to explain to them why they have no claim.

That's why, in the McDougal complaint, her factual allegations on the subject of Davidson and Cohen being in some sort of "cahoots" strike me as pretty thin, since she quotes the sort of bland courteous statements that lawyers normally make toward each other.

So, if you are Cohen, and someone comes to you with this sort of "problem" because you've dealt with it before, then it's not necessarily suspicious that Cohen would tell the individual on the other side, "Hey, why don't you get in touch with Keith Davidson, and have him explain how this might be resolved."

Maybe it's that simple. Maybe it's not. I don't know.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
8. Guy has been disbarred twice and the other guy is Cohen, so more likely than not IMO
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 04:44 PM
Apr 2018

but I get your reasoning

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
9. No, he was never disbarred
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 05:05 PM
Apr 2018

He was suspended once for not paying his annual fee. Meh. That happens.

The other was a med-mal plaintiff who probably ended up with a time-barred action and decided to take it out of Davidson's malpractice insurer.

This one in particular is a common hazard:


In another, he didn’t tell a prospective client in another medical malpractice case that his medical records were being looked at by a nurse instead of a doctor, he didn’t keep him up to date with developments in the case, and he ultimately was not clear in letting the potential client know that he wasn’t taking his case. Davidson refunded $750 that the man paid for evaluating the medical records, but he had initially placed the money in a general account instead of a client trust account, which the rules require.


You have to be really clear with some people that "No, your case sucks, and I'm not taking it." On the one hand, if they want to go to another lawyer, it's preferable that they not have a communication in their possession, albeit a privileged one, that their case sucks. A good general rule is "Good news I'll send you in writing. Bad news I'll call you about." But every lawyer has had instances where they "gently" inform a prospective client that their case is not interesting, for whatever reason, and the client takes an oddly optimistic view of whatever they are told, and somehow believes otherwise.

The instances in question suggest a certain degree of sloppiness and inattention, but not an active ill-intent.

For example, mixing client and general funds is certainly against the rules, but can happen when an office worker deposits a check to the wrong account. Is it a violation? Absolutely. Is the lawyer responsible for administrative errors by staff? Sure. No question about that. But, as the suspension instead of disbarment suggests, it's not suggestive of any sort of evil scheme. The rule was designed to prevent various forms of hanky-panky. In the instance in question, the client was refunded their $750, so it's not as if he ran off to Rio with it.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
10. Is an oral agreement dealing with selling stock representing hundreds of thousands
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 05:07 PM
Apr 2018

of dollars worth in a private corp binding?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
11. I'd need more context
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 05:18 PM
Apr 2018

An oral agreement between whom? Two traders on an exchange floor? I think they do that with finger signs.

If you are agreeing to the purchase of personal property in excess of $5000 in California, you'll need a signed writing.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
12. One corp officer buying stock from another, or the corp buying stock from
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 05:20 PM
Apr 2018

a stock holder in the $500,000 range.

I think you answered, thanks

Small S corp, not wall street

Wait, no C corp

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
13. Not my area
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 05:22 PM
Apr 2018

If this is an actual question, as opposed to hypothetical, seek competent counsel in the relevant jurisdiction.

I thought this related to some other Cohen/Trump dreadfulness I had not seen yet.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
15. Noted that as well
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 05:37 PM
Apr 2018

This is now the 3rd client Davidson represented (Stormy Daniels, McDougal and Broidy). Looks entirely possible he was the guy who was sent out to contact the prospective payees as an unbiased atty.

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