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WOW AND WOW... (Original Post) pbmus Apr 2018 OP
He can be talked out of stuff, he is a child. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #1
hmm, is Donnie going to throw a tantrum? triron Apr 2018 #2
He wants his binkie Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2018 #16
Mattis knows he is dealing with a crazy person. SummerSnow Apr 2018 #3
Mattis knows Trump is unstable. Lonestarblue Apr 2018 #13
He's the last one still standing for some semblance of reason. elfin Apr 2018 #4
Time for the rumors to start. SergeStorms Apr 2018 #21
Secondary consequences are enormous in Syria. bronxiteforever Apr 2018 #5
Mattis for President sandensea Apr 2018 #6
I wouldn't go that far but I believe him to be a man of honor. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #7
tRump is like a sponge soaking up toxic crap and squeezing it out ALL over us. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2018 #8
What does it say about this administration Danascot Apr 2018 #9
Omg, thats quotable.. pbmus Apr 2018 #10
I had the same general thought, but you said it better! LisaM Apr 2018 #19
Buh-bye... czarjak Apr 2018 #11
I can't claim to know anything about Syria, or what we should do, but lindysalsagal Apr 2018 #12
This. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #20
We got involved in WWII because Hitler declared war on US TexasBushwhacker Apr 2018 #23
I really worry about what could happen if Mattis gets fired. Still In Wisconsin Apr 2018 #14
Unfortunately, once Trump sees that everyone knows how it went down, ... OneBro Apr 2018 #15
Well, SOMEONE has a spine in that administration. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #17
Trump, Pence, Pompeo, Bolton... world wide wally Apr 2018 #18
Only adult left in Trump administration is named "Mad Dog" NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #22

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
3. Mattis knows he is dealing with a crazy person.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 05:41 PM
Apr 2018

He sees the handwriting on the wall. Trump will be pulled like a tug a war rope between those in his circle who want him to strike and those who don't

Lonestarblue

(9,993 posts)
13. Mattis knows Trump is unstable.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 06:56 PM
Apr 2018

This is why Mattis cancelled his planned travel this week after Trump cancelled his trip to South America. Mattis knows that Trump cannot be left in charge of anything important.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
4. He's the last one still standing for some semblance of reason.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 05:45 PM
Apr 2018

Bet *45 is frustrated and looking for ways to go around him. Suspect firing him isn't an option even for him. Making enemies in every other cabinet department is easy. Making an enemy of the Pentagon another thing altogether,

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
21. Time for the rumors to start.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 08:08 PM
Apr 2018

Mattis will now be persona non grata in the "inner circle" (are there enough people left for an "outer circle"?) in the White House. The rumors will now start that Trump is "considering" replacing him. He'll be gone within two weeks. If Little Donnie doesn't get his way, Little Donnie gets a little pissy!

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
5. Secondary consequences are enormous in Syria.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 06:10 PM
Apr 2018

As General McCaffrey said, what happens if we kill Russians and Iranians? Do the Russians respond? We wouldn’t let our troops be killed by Russians- will Putin allow his troops to be killed from our air strike?
Do strikes get all the chemicals? We aren’t going to topple Assad with air power. That requires troops and almost certainly a war with Russia. We ain’t going to do that.

sandensea

(21,635 posts)
6. Mattis for President
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 06:27 PM
Apr 2018

He's not that far down the line of succession, and at this point what other choice do we have!

Danascot

(4,690 posts)
9. What does it say about this administration
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 06:46 PM
Apr 2018

that the most reasonable person trying to talk sense into Trump is a guy nick-named "Mad Dog"?

lindysalsagal

(20,686 posts)
12. I can't claim to know anything about Syria, or what we should do, but
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 06:55 PM
Apr 2018

as long as the typically smart and informed people can't make a case for any kind of solution, I'm on the side of doing less: If the rest of the arab countries aren't going to get involved, who are we to interfere in a catastrophy?

Ok ok, we like to be the rescuers of the innocent. Right. That's one of our myths. We stopped Hitler. It was the right thing to do.

This situation is such a total mess, and it's already beyond saving.

If the locals really wanted us there, they'd be asking us to interfere. As far as I understand things, they're not asking.

Give the mess to Putin.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,190 posts)
23. We got involved in WWII because Hitler declared war on US
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 12:27 PM
Apr 2018

not vice versa. We didn't even find out he was murdering Jews in mass numbers until 1942. We did a lot of business with Germany and tried to remain neutral until Japan and Germany dragged us into the war.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
14. I really worry about what could happen if Mattis gets fired.
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 07:04 PM
Apr 2018

He does seem to be the last voice of reason left in that administration.

OneBro

(1,159 posts)
15. Unfortunately, once Trump sees that everyone knows how it went down, ...
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 07:13 PM
Apr 2018

...he will call a strike on Syria just to show everyone that he’s the boss.

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