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flyingfysh

(1,990 posts) Fri Apr 13, 2018, 06:10 PM Apr 2018

So ordered: Court grants Trump request to intervene in Michael Cohen case

Just seen on rawstory.com (https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/ordered-court-grants-trump-request-intervene-michael-cohen-case/) , this is from a Wall Street Journal reporter:

A federal judge in Manhattan granted President Donald Trump’s request to intervene in the court hearing regarding longtime attorney Michael Cohen, whose offices were raided on Monday.
Erica Orden, a political reporter for The Wall Street Journal broke the news via Twitter on Friday.
“The Court GRANTS the application of President Trump to intervene in this proceeding. SO ORDERED,” she tweeted.

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So ordered: Court grants Trump request to intervene in Michael Cohen case (Original Post) flyingfysh Apr 2018 OP

It means he can file motions RandySF Apr 2018 #1

A. did the judge just fuck us and do something wrong in favor of the traitor Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #2

No, he did not admit anything. former9thward Apr 2018 #3

On Ari now: It's not protected if it's not legal work. And none of it is legal work..... lindysalsagal Apr 2018 #9

You don't have the faintest idea what it is. former9thward Apr 2018 #10

Here's a little of it: lindysalsagal Apr 2018 #11

The court filings by SDNY support that position unc70 Apr 2018 #13

Of course they are going to say that. former9thward Apr 2018 #14

No, the ruling means almost nothing unc70 Apr 2018 #17

Have been through this hundreds of times former9thward Apr 2018 #18

Actually the Judge is so irritated that Cohen's lawyers couldn't give OliverQ Apr 2018 #19

The judge also didn't buy much of what the defense was claiming. pnwmom Apr 2018 #20

Well we will see. former9thward Apr 2018 #22

Why don't you believe Mueller's filing? It states that Cohen has been doing pnwmom Apr 2018 #23

Pretty much RandySF Apr 2018 #4

No jberryhill Apr 2018 #6

thank you, so it changes nothing really other than what you said Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #12

Thanks CabalPowered Apr 2018 #15

I figured it was just following Cha Apr 2018 #16

Was unclear what had to happen by Monday?...gather Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #5

Yup Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2018 #24

US Att has 3rd pty going thru recrds JWhit63 Apr 2018 #7

They have a "taint team" made up of a group of FBI agents not involved in the case. pnwmom Apr 2018 #21

Routine DetroitLegalBeagle Apr 2018 #8

RandySF

(58,855 posts)

1. It means he can file motions

Reply to flyingfysh (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2018, 06:10 PM

Apr 2018

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)

2. A. did the judge just fuck us and do something wrong in favor of the traitor

Reply to RandySF (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 13, 2018, 06:12 PM

Apr 2018

and B. ...aw fuck, I am so tired

this is the biggest case in history, probably, so I dont know what that means or how it helps him...

He is admitting that he was a party to the NDA, right?

former9thward

(32,012 posts)

3. No, he did not admit anything.

Reply to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 13, 2018, 06:18 PM

Apr 2018

He is moving to protect any documents which have attorney client privilege among those the FBI have seized.

lindysalsagal

(20,687 posts)

9. On Ari now: It's not protected if it's not legal work. And none of it is legal work.....

Reply to former9thward (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 13, 2018, 06:42 PM

Apr 2018

Cohen hasn't done any legal work: It's all just payoffs.

former9thward

(32,012 posts)

10. You don't have the faintest idea what it is.

Reply to lindysalsagal (Reply #9)

Fri Apr 13, 2018, 06:47 PM

Apr 2018

Were you on the raid? Do you work in Cohen's office?

lindysalsagal

(20,687 posts)

11. Here's a little of it:

Reply to former9thward (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 13, 2018, 06:59 PM

Apr 2018

https://qz.com/1252296/stormy-daniels-lawyer-michael-avenatti-just-crashed-michael-cohens-fbi-hearing/

unc70

(6,114 posts)

13. The court filings by SDNY support that position

Reply to former9thward (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 13, 2018, 07:01 PM

Apr 2018

The statements in the court documents aren't quite that clear and definitive, but are really close.

former9thward

(32,012 posts)

14. Of course they are going to say that.

Reply to unc70 (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 13, 2018, 07:11 PM

Apr 2018

My god, they authorized the raid. Prosecutors will argue a broken pencil is part of it. The fact the judge granted Trump's motion meant he was not buying what they are trying to sell.

unc70

(6,114 posts)

17. No, the ruling means almost nothing

Reply to former9thward (Reply #14)

Fri Apr 13, 2018, 07:16 PM

Apr 2018

It was an ordinary procedural matter, granted on that limited basis. It gives Trump legal standing roughly equivalent to Stormy. No big deal.

former9thward

(32,012 posts)

18. Have been through this hundreds of times

Reply to unc70 (Reply #17)

Fri Apr 13, 2018, 07:18 PM

Apr 2018

I will say the position of the SDNY is "No big deal". We will see what develops.

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)

19. Actually the Judge is so irritated that Cohen's lawyers couldn't give

Reply to former9thward (Reply #14)

Fri Apr 13, 2018, 07:21 PM

Apr 2018

a clear answer of whether he actually does any real legal work, she's demanding Cohen appear Monday to answer those questions himself.

The Judge isn't buying the arguments from Cohen's lawyers.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)

20. The judge also didn't buy much of what the defense was claiming.

Reply to former9thward (Reply #14)

Fri Apr 13, 2018, 07:24 PM

Apr 2018

For example, that there were "thousands" of documents protected by attorney-client privilege, even though Cohen's attorney couldn't name any clients. The judge said that on Monday the attorney has to bring Cohen with him.

All that the judge is saying now is that she will allow Trump's lawyer to "intervene" -- to have a voice in the argument. It would be surprising if she didn't.

former9thward

(32,012 posts)

22. Well we will see.

Reply to pnwmom (Reply #20)

Sat Apr 14, 2018, 12:11 AM

Apr 2018

I suspect you will not be revisiting the issue...

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)

23. Why don't you believe Mueller's filing? It states that Cohen has been doing

Reply to former9thward (Reply #10)

Sat Apr 14, 2018, 12:40 AM

Apr 2018

very little legal work. And in Court, his lawyer wasn't able to name a single client.

RandySF

(58,855 posts)

4. Pretty much

Reply to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 13, 2018, 06:18 PM

Apr 2018

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)

6. No

Reply to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 13, 2018, 06:29 PM

Apr 2018

First off, this is about much more than the NDA.

Secondly, anyone whose attorney's records has been seized pursuant to a warrant has the right to intervene and assert privilege with respect to any records which qualify for that assertion.

This ruling is a no brainer.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)

12. thank you, so it changes nothing really other than what you said

Reply to jberryhill (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 13, 2018, 07:00 PM

Apr 2018

CabalPowered

(12,690 posts)

15. Thanks

Reply to jberryhill (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 13, 2018, 07:14 PM

Apr 2018

Cha

(297,248 posts)

16. I figured it was just following

Reply to jberryhill (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 13, 2018, 07:15 PM

Apr 2018

the rule of law.

Thank you, jberryhill

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)

5. Was unclear what had to happen by Monday?...gather

Reply to flyingfysh (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2018, 06:25 PM

Apr 2018

This is a serious delay tactic by trump. Gets to see all information confuscated before case can proceed?? Trump master at litigation delay tactics.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)

24. Yup

Reply to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #5)

Sat Apr 14, 2018, 09:46 AM

Apr 2018

Hence why he has almost never really has been held to account for anything.

JWhit63

(1 post)

7. US Att has 3rd pty going thru recrds

Reply to flyingfysh (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2018, 06:34 PM

Apr 2018

I understood that US Attorney has something like a 3rd pty going thru all info gathered to separate out anything that could be Client Privilege. ? There's a legal word for this, but I don't know it.
Cohen is being looked at for business, nothing involving 45???

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)

21. They have a "taint team" made up of a group of FBI agents not involved in the case.

Reply to JWhit63 (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 13, 2018, 07:31 PM

Apr 2018

But Cohen/DT are saying that isn't good enough. They don't trust the FBI to do the sorting and they want either Cohen to do it, or for the judge to appoint someone else.

The FBI says that their taint team is normal procedure and there's no reason not to follow normal procedure.

Welcome to DU, JWhit63!

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,923 posts)

8. Routine

Reply to flyingfysh (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2018, 06:41 PM

Apr 2018

Just a routine ruling. Nothing to get excited about.

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