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Fascinating stuff.
One takeaway on a quick scan of it. Given the current demographic profiles of the two parties, the Republican Party, at least as currently constituted, will be in no position to win a presidential election after 2036. Yay!
https://bipartisanpolicy.org/library/states-of-change-demographic-shifts-and-the-future-of-the-trump-coalition/
But in the interim, because of the interaction of demography with the distribution of the electoral votes, more Trump style victories ... in which the Republican EC winner loses the popular vote to a Democrat -- MAY well be in store for us. As the authors put it: This report finds quite a few future scenarios could mimic the result of the 2016 election a Democratic win in the popular vote with a Republican win in the electoral college. BOO!
I suspect the Republicans know this already and that that is precisely why some of them have chosen to play so heavily to their base. Those factions see base polarization and mobilization as the key to at least their short term survival.
They may be right. But victory purchased that way, at least at the presidential level, would then mean that we will have the older, whiter, less populous regions of the country effectively lording it over the younger, more diverse, more populous regions of the country. And THAT will not be good at all from the perspective of democratic legitimacy. People of good will should really hope that this strategy does NOT succeed.
This piece in the Washington Post summarizes some fo this for those who don't want to wade through it all.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/more-popular-vote-electoral-college-splits-may-be-in-our-future/2018/04/14/0d961dce-3f1a-11e8-8d53-eba0ed2371cc_story.html?utm_term=.04fc8a32b9f8
Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)Why should my friend in Wyoming have, in effect, a more powerful vote than mine and my partner's put together here in Colorado?
Get tired of people whining that if we get rid of the EC then "elections will be decided by California and New York"
What's the problem with that? At least those states have shown they can send reasonable adults to Washington.
kennetha
(3,666 posts)It should be a matter of citizens considered as a collective body, in which all are equals, independently of geography.
Freddie
(9,272 posts)Every other election is done that way, the only reason POTUS is different is a holdover from colonial times when direct election was a radical idea.
kennetha
(3,666 posts)It was, in fact, the first idea that the constitutional convention entertained and seemed to many the most natural way to do it. The Southern delegates objected. That's because though the South was populous enough, few people in the South had the right to vote. And so there wouldn't be enough of them to win the day in national elections. Enter the Electoral College ... specifically designed to increase the voting power of the Southern Slave States. Madison in his notes to the convention is very clear about what happened.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Freddie
(9,272 posts)There should be riots in the streets. Yeah things are set up that way but it's flat-out WRONG. Efforts to protect the minority have allowed tyranny of the minority.
kennetha
(3,666 posts)Way past time to move on and establish true democracy, based on the principle of one person, one vote.