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RandySF

(59,079 posts)
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 03:27 PM Apr 2018

Voters Take The Wheel On Fixing Gerrymandering

Days after the November 2016 election, a coordinator at a recycling non-profit wrote a Facebook post asking if her fellow Michigan residents were interested in coming together to “take on gerrymandering.”

Katie Fahey’s casual social media request ended up morphing into a statewide, all-volunteer movement to draft a ballot proposal to overhaul how the Great Lake State’s congressional and state legislative district lines are drawn. The push by that group, which came to be known as Voters Not Politicians, ended up gathering over 100,000 more signatures than the 316,000 needed to get the measure on Michigan’s November 2018 ballot.

Across the country, voters are engaging in similar mobilizations at the state level to take the wheel on the seemingly unsexy issue of redistricting reform. Comparable efforts to get reform measures on the ballot are underway in Missouri, Oklahoma, Colorado and Utah, and Ohio will vote May 8 on a legislative-backed proposal that was spurred by grassroots activism. Good government groups are pushing legislatures in Illinois and Pennsylvania to take similar action.

The aim of the reforms: to either wrest control of the process away from partisan lawmakers and turn it over to independent arbiters, or, in some cases, to make sure maps are drawn with bipartisan consensus.


This ground-level approach bypasses the meandering pace of the courts, where gerrymandering challenges dragged on for years before landing before the Supreme Court. The justices are expected to issue a ruling on gerrymandering by June, but how far it will go to rein in the practice remains unclear. The grassroots campaigns also sideline the national partisan groups working to give their party more control of the redistricting process by winning control of key statehouses and governorships.


https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/voters-push-redistricting-reform-ohio-michigan-nationwide

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Lonestarblue

(10,038 posts)
10. Do you know of anyone working on this in Texas?
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 05:39 PM
Apr 2018

I’m in the 25th, which is carved out of 10 different counties. We’re represented by a Republican who refuses to meet with anyone but his voters and has openly stated that he does represent all his constituents, just the Republicans. I think the onky legislatiin he has introduced in Congress is an amendment to give special benefits to auto dealerships (yep, he owns one).

FakeNoose

(32,705 posts)
3. Congressional District maps should never be determined
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 04:05 PM
Apr 2018

... by those who benefit the most - in other words the incumbents. This should be etched in stone and enforced by the SCOTUS. Redrawing should be accomplished by non-partisan committees of volunteers, and approved by oversight of the federal courts.

It's true that in past years some Democrats have taken advantage and used gerrymandering, it hasn't only been the Republicans who have cheated with it. Gerrymandering is definitely unconstitutional and undemocratic - no matter which party is using it. This has to end - no later than the 2020 Census.

Thunderbeast

(3,417 posts)
4. We need some statisticians and mathematicians
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 04:45 PM
Apr 2018

to devise an algorithm based purely on agnostic geometric principles. Use a consistent approach in every state that divides the population by the allotted number of congressional districts and draw the district lines based on a grid with equal numbers in each segment....regardless of "communities of interest".

Limit re-districting to once after each census (I'm talking to YOU, Texas), the grid lines will move a bit with population shifts, and states will need to add or subtract districts based on allocation, but the same rules would apply.

The process would be simple, fair, and predictable......which is why it will never happen!

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
9. I've always thought they should do it by counties
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 05:37 PM
Apr 2018

Texas has 36 representatives and 28 million people. So that's roughly 1 rep for every 800,000 people. Some counties have more than that while some have far less, so you would have to divide up some counties while others will share a rep between multiple counties. Under that type of scheme there's still the potential for some gerrymandering, but not nearly to the extent it is now.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
5. This is doing the actual work to ensure that Democrats win elections
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 05:20 PM
Apr 2018

instead of yelling and nagging and blaming current Democrats for not appealing to a demographic that we haven't appealed to in generations....

Gerrymandering is why it takes far more votes for a Dem to win than a Republican.



LAS14

(13,783 posts)
7. Everyone who is interested in this issue should at least....
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 05:23 PM
Apr 2018

...consider supporting the NDRC (National Democratic Redistricting Committee), an organization begun by Eric Holder and Barack Obama, currently led by Holder.

https://democraticredistricting.com/

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
8. Corporations, lobbyists, and special interests have no power
Sat Apr 14, 2018, 05:33 PM
Apr 2018

When we have an energized, informed electorate.

Exxon has no vote.
Koch Industries has no vote.
The Dow has no vote.

At least for now WE still decide.

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