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kentuck

(111,098 posts)
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 11:54 AM Apr 2018

Trump will be backed into a corner if the Judge does not give him a favorable ruling today.

He will be put in an untenable position. It could be a desperate situation for him. How does he react?

In my opinion, he will try to fire someone or he will try to pardon someone. He will call it a "witchhunt" that must be ended.

He is beginning to look like a cornered animal.

As for Cohen, it is good to remember that there is no honor amongst thieves.

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Trump will be backed into a corner if the Judge does not give him a favorable ruling today. (Original Post) kentuck Apr 2018 OP
I think he'd love to quit (on his terms), but the Russians will kill his family. NightWatcher Apr 2018 #1
Or worse, take (cut off) his money bigbrother05 Apr 2018 #7
Trump is suffering boiled frog syndrome; he is that unwise. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #14
Winner winner chicken dinner. NightWatcher Apr 2018 #20
I think this underestimates his base's "bunker mentality" and tenacity with a sunk cost fallacy. Pope George Ringo II Apr 2018 #29
All true. But many are bandwagon followers. "belonging" looms large in their psyches. Tipping points Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #30
I think he doesn't quit because he wants to keep his power to pardon. Maraya1969 Apr 2018 #31
How does he react? jberryhill Apr 2018 #2
His lawyers (if has any left) would probably appeal. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2018 #3
Correct counselor. In the meantime the FBI has the stuff. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2018 #5
Yes. Trump-Cohen genius strategy: when in doubt, endlessly litigate. But this is shit-for-realz. .nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #16
It's anyone's right to appeal an order jberryhill Apr 2018 #18
Indeed it is a right but it is also a strategy against low-net-worth opponents. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #21
It doesn't matter when you have 5 votes on the Supreme Court jberryhill Apr 2018 #24
That is not certain. RWs thought Roberts was a sure vote against ObamaCare. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #25
Trump will always delay any reckoning. n/t Orsino Apr 2018 #17
Manu Raju just said it best..."RUMP is in LEGAL JEOPARDY".... Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #4
He will attack the judge Takket Apr 2018 #6
He will connect her to Obama. kentuck Apr 2018 #8
Was that President Obama or President Clinton? Blue_true Apr 2018 #9
Was it that long ago?? kentuck Apr 2018 #10
It was Clinton...and it won't work anyway. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #13
It was Clinton NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #11
Thanks. At least I haven't forgot how to keep my socks matched, yet. nt Blue_true Apr 2018 #15
Fingers crossed ailsagirl Apr 2018 #12
No way Cohen will prevail today. mobeau69 Apr 2018 #19
He will issue an EO to countermand the judge's order bucolic_frolic Apr 2018 #22
beginning to look like a cornered animal? unblock Apr 2018 #23
I think he'll lash out like a four year old having a tantrum when his mommy Jarqui Apr 2018 #26
Cohen will be an even tougher nut to crack than Manafort Cosmocat Apr 2018 #27
my question bluestarone Apr 2018 #28

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
14. Trump is suffering boiled frog syndrome; he is that unwise.
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 02:00 PM
Apr 2018

If tRump "declared victory" and resigned, he could salvage something for his family's brand. Not a lot but something, and his base would venerate him for ever and claim he was sabotaged by a "soft coup". They would buy his crap and even send money if he claimed he was no longer wealthy.

The longer he stays the more he damages his brand. The more vehement his denials, the more the comeuppance will knock him down when it comes. He is determined to stay to the bitter end, or nearly, because he still thinks he is a winner. If he stays too close to the bitter end even a lot of his base will desert him. There will always be a few hardest core that will stick, but few. The longer he wriggles on the hook, the less this looks like a soft coup and the more it looks like meticulous prosecution of a large dark conspiracy and the more it looks like treason.

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
29. I think this underestimates his base's "bunker mentality" and tenacity with a sunk cost fallacy.
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 07:08 PM
Apr 2018

There's just no kind way to say this about them, but they weren't part of Trump's base because they're reasonable.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
30. All true. But many are bandwagon followers. "belonging" looms large in their psyches. Tipping points
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 07:55 PM
Apr 2018

At a certain point there will be an avalanche and all those who are going to leave will suddenly leave, not wanting to be the last one to leave.

It's possible the tipping point among RepubliCon Representatives and Senators might be reached before the final fracture of the base, if the fear of the Blue Wave becomes strong enough. RepubliCons might be willing to do anything to get out in front and pretend they never supported tRump.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
21. Indeed it is a right but it is also a strategy against low-net-worth opponents.
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 02:20 PM
Apr 2018

tRump-Cohen seem to forget that trying to endlessly-litigate against a deep pockets client like the Government is just a waste of money. The odds are worse than the odds for surviving a Russian nerve-agent/fall-from-heights hit squad.

Takket

(21,572 posts)
6. He will attack the judge
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 12:12 PM
Apr 2018

That is what rethugs do when they can’t answer a question. They gaslight you into believing that the asker has no right to even pose the question to begin with.

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
8. He will connect her to Obama.
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 01:36 PM
Apr 2018

She is a liar and a fraud. She was turned down for a job in the Justice Dept for hiring illegals to work for her....blah...blah...blah..

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
9. Was that President Obama or President Clinton?
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 01:44 PM
Apr 2018

I forget. She had an undocumented housekeeper. But I think lots of people may have undocumented people working for them and not know it.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
11. It was Clinton
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 01:56 PM
Apr 2018

Zoe Baird had an undocumented housekeeper and her nomination went down the toilet
Then, second nominee Kimba Wood had the same problem and had also worked (gasp) in a Playboy Club when she was in her 20s and her nomination was quickly tanked.

Then, Janet Reno came along

bucolic_frolic

(43,167 posts)
22. He will issue an EO to countermand the judge's order
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 02:27 PM
Apr 2018

and let the courts sort it out ... there sure is something in those tax returns and these Cohen files that Donald J. Trump does not want to be made public

unblock

(52,240 posts)
23. beginning to look like a cornered animal?
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 02:29 PM
Apr 2018

to me, he looked like a cornered animal on november 9, 2016.

Jarqui

(10,125 posts)
26. I think he'll lash out like a four year old having a tantrum when his mommy
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 02:44 PM
Apr 2018

didn't buy him the candy car he wanted.

But I think he's too stupid to realize how much trouble he is in.
FOX News will tell him the prosecutors are bad people or blame it on someone else.
He will believe them and carry on.

He might fire someone during his tantrum but I do not think he fully appreciates what is happening to him.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
27. Cohen will be an even tougher nut to crack than Manafort
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 02:55 PM
Apr 2018

He won't roll as easily as some of these other tertiary people, he is a legitimate, full on scumbag ...

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