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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:29 PM Apr 2018

Who is this Noah Rothman clown on MSNBC ? He said Trump's approval rating is going up

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

Up from 38 to 40, and like all statistical comparisons it depends on your baseline.


And why isn't Katy Tur pushing back ?

If I want unrebutted FOX talking points I'll watch FOX.





He also said the GOP is doing better on the generic ballot:


https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/



This is after Katy Tur said their poll (NBC) showed the Democrats increasing their lead in the generic ballot.
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Who is this Noah Rothman clown on MSNBC ? He said Trump's approval rating is going up (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 OP
Some dipshit conservative manor321 Apr 2018 #1
It was a rhetorical question DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #3
Shut this down real fast gratuitous Apr 2018 #2
Remember,Tur is working with Wellstone ruled Apr 2018 #4
I'm not very impressed with her either. dem4decades Apr 2018 #12
She should have told him/her to watch FOX. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #14
Never been impressed either. She has moments, but they are poboy2 Apr 2018 #15
I detest him with a passion when I see him on MSNBC shows. He is beyond snarky hlthe2b Apr 2018 #5
He's not wrong on those issues, right now. bearsfootball516 Apr 2018 #6
Not Gallup. One poll doesn't mean shit anyway. And the changes triron Apr 2018 #7
He's cherry picking the data. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #9
A poll came out from Gallup today and had Trump is at 39. That poll was concluded Sunday DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2018 #8
One was 39 and the other was 40. grantcart Apr 2018 #11
So,typical Gallop Poll Wellstone ruled Apr 2018 #16
All correct statements, depends which group you are looking at grantcart Apr 2018 #10
It will logically trend upward Awsi Dooger Apr 2018 #13
 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
1. Some dipshit conservative
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:31 PM
Apr 2018

I always ignore the conservatives like this on MSNBC. Fortunately Rachel and Lawrence are largely free of these kinds of idiots.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. Shut this down real fast
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:32 PM
Apr 2018

"Trump's numbers going up? I wonder if that has anything to do with the restoration of voting rights to released prisoners, though I wouldn't have guessed that there were quite so many Republican ex-felons as to make a difference in the polling numbers."

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. Remember,Tur is working with
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:34 PM
Apr 2018

Chuckie Toads Producer and Director. Most likely Toad's Writer. This is the Conservative Commentary part of MSNBC programming.

dem4decades

(11,296 posts)
12. I'm not very impressed with her either.
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:58 PM
Apr 2018

Her story of the Trump voter complaining that by investigating Trump they are trying to make her vote not count and Katy didn't push back on that either.

Hey Katy, what about my wife's and my vote for Hillary, our vote didn't count either. And our side had the most FUCKING votes.

So Katy, do I have a point too? Can you give us that at least?

 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
15. Never been impressed either. She has moments, but they are
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 06:10 PM
Apr 2018

just 'moments', here and there. Otherwise, she is ineffective and a push over for falling for RW BS talking points. Lies left to stand in her presence.

hlthe2b

(102,279 posts)
5. I detest him with a passion when I see him on MSNBC shows. He is beyond snarky
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:34 PM
Apr 2018

He always speaks in a very snide and condescending manner. I've known a couple of guys like that. Uggh.

He's a conservative writer, apparently for Washington Times.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
6. He's not wrong on those issues, right now.
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:35 PM
Apr 2018

I think a poll from ABC News/Washington Post came out over the weekend showing his approval at 40 percent, which is still bad, but it's the highest it's been in that poll since his first 100 days. Meanwhile, RealClearPolitics has the generic congressional ballot down to a 6-point advantage, which is the lowest it's been since the beginning of February.

triron

(22,003 posts)
7. Not Gallup. One poll doesn't mean shit anyway. And the changes
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:38 PM
Apr 2018

aren't even significant statistically speaking.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
8. A poll came out from Gallup today and had Trump is at 39. That poll was concluded Sunday
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:38 PM
Apr 2018
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/


The ABC poll was concluded last Wednesday.


He's cherry picking the data.
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
16. So,typical Gallop Poll
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 06:53 PM
Apr 2018

which tend to lean very right by their nature. You get the results you paid for. Let's be honest,ABC is a Disney Media Company,and Disney has and will always lean right wing. ABC largest single Affiliate Owner is now Sinclair.




grantcart

(53,061 posts)
10. All correct statements, depends which group you are looking at
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:41 PM
Apr 2018

WP/ABC news shows Trump approval up slightly

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/04/one-poll-says-trumps-approval-rating-is-rising-another-claims-its-dropping.html



https://www.vox.com/2018/4/16/17242220/poll-democrats-midterm-elections-2018-congressional-ballot

For the past few months, Democrats have been riding high on a generic ballot advantage that shows them about 7 or 8 percentage points ahead of the Republicans in the 2018 midterms — an edge that signifies a potentially historic wave election.

But Democrats just got their first sign of trouble.

A new ABC News/Washington Post poll released Monday shows that Democrats have just a 4-point advantage over their GOP counterparts; 47 percent of registered voters polled said they prefer the Democratic candidate in their individual district, while 43 percent of those polled favor the Republican candidate.

However, when ABC and the Washington Post posed the same question to a wider group of adults of voting age (not just registered voters), the Democratic spread was better — a 10-point margin, with 50 percent of adults saying they preferred the Democratic candidate and 40 percent preferring the Republican.


The larger picture is that the very wide advantage Democrats had this winter is shrinking. In December, Democrats had a 13-point lead on the generic ballot, and that has decreased significantly.



Two key points

1) approval ratings don't show the intensity of feeling and all polls show much greater motivation on the Democratic side

2) The generic numbers will go up and down but the key point is, like we have seen with the special elections so far, the number and quality of Democratic candidates are not generic, they are very good candidates.
 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
13. It will logically trend upward
Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:59 PM
Apr 2018

You don't need polls to understand that. Outrageous becomes less outrageous and begins to blend, unless it is fortified by even more outrageous than ever.

Trump is certainly capable of that. But if he merely remains in his typical range of lies and crookedness the nation will steadily be more accepting.

Obviously there's the wild card of the Mueller investigation and other legal matters.

Overall I still wish I could have pushed that button last November and frozen Trump's approval rating and our midterm prospects where they were, and not subject to one more year of acclimation.

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