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shraby

(21,946 posts) Tue Apr 17, 2018, 11:42 AM Apr 2018

Yesterday I posted some reasons that Hillary lost the election besides the

ones everyone yells about; Comey and Bernie.
Forget Bernie, he was on the primary ballot, but wasn't on the one for the Presidential election. He was already history in November.

Think Jill Stein!
She was at the dinner in Moscow with Putin and Flynn.
She was on the ballot in the Presidential election.
She took enough votes from Hillary in key states to help throw the election to trump.

I should have put her on the list I made, only thought of it later.
She was a main spoiler. It appears that is what the Green party is all about...to drain votes from the Democratic party.

They don't have a fart's chance in a hurricane of winning but they can and do collude with the Russians to help throw an election to the republicans.

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Yesterday I posted some reasons that Hillary lost the election besides the (Original Post) shraby Apr 2018 OP

Can we please get off this constant navel gazing on DU and concentrate on Nov 6? marble falls Apr 2018 #1

Weak Assumption zipplewrath Apr 2018 #2

Russian interference and propaganda, voter suppression... Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #3

marble falls

(57,112 posts)

1. Can we please get off this constant navel gazing on DU and concentrate on Nov 6?

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Tue Apr 17, 2018, 12:02 PM

Apr 2018

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)

2. Weak Assumption

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Tue Apr 17, 2018, 12:08 PM

Apr 2018

The few voters I knew that voted for Stein weren't gonna vote for Hillary. If Stein hadn't run, they'd either have written in someone, or not voted at all (which may have affected down ticket races).

All evidence suggests, and Hillary herself, points to the Comey letter as the primary inflection point in the campaign endgame.

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)

3. Russian interference and propaganda, voter suppression...

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Tue Apr 17, 2018, 12:11 PM

Apr 2018

decreased enthusiasm among the Democratic base for Clinton compared to Obama, the Democratic Party's dumbass complacency in not putting campaign resources into Wisconsin and Michigan ("blue wall", anyone?) and the candidate herself, who was miles better than Trump, but who had decades of her own baggage and such high unfavourables that Trump was probably the only GOP nominee she could've realistically beaten (if they'd nominated a Romney or McCain type instead of Trump I don't think she would've won the popular vote). There are so many factors playing into what happened in 2016 that blaming it all on either Comey or Sanders is just silly.

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