This is karma, he brags about sexually assaulting women, then 63 million men and WOMEN vote FOR him.

FOR him.

Then one unlucky woman who's (who's or whose?) path crossed with this criminal piece of shit, decides she has had enough of his threats and lies.

Stormy Daniels is a hero. For real.

Who's vs. Whose. If you could say "who is" instead...it's who's. If not, it's whose.


Not to be grammar police. Your comment just sparked a memory about my dad - a retired teacher who never stopped teaching. So I thought I'd share.

Thanks for the smile.

Thanks, this will be very helpful going forward

The other one is accept except, I often get those f's up

trick for that one

accept is getting something
except is to take away, as in ex-spouse.

too. I think I finally got that one down.

Affect is a verb and effect is a noun.

And, yay for Stormy Daniels and her lawyer Michael Avenati being so diligent!

http://grammartips.homestead.com/affect.html

"Learn the Difference Between AFFECT and EFFECT"

It's a bit weird that the possessive case is "its" when, for instance, something belonging to John is John's.

As in tRump the It.

a woman who made adult movies, or men who steal, swindle, cheat, lie, rape, etc?

If I had a choice to vote for any Repub, over Stormy, I'd vote for her without a thought. And I would be confident that she would do a better job of representing the people who voted her into office.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/01/18/porn-star-stormy-danielss-brief-political-career-as-a-u-s-senate-contender/?utm_term=.111f0e633abd

She's a far more serious person than the stereotypes of her occupation(s) might predict. And I hope to someday read the editorials that say "In Stormy, the Donald finally met his match".

No trick or special technique needed.

And as far as I'm concerned the lowest profession is being a politician. Well, lawyering is in there.

I've always felt that people should be paid by how hard and unpleasant their jobs are.

Presidents and people that get limousines should actually pay many $100,000s for that privilege.
Teachers should get at least 50-200K.
Garbage collectors: 500K
Military on the front-line: 1M, military in the Pentagon 20K.
etc.

Someone that has to put up with a pig grunting near them - LOTS!

You need a lawyer then they are great, right? Sorry, I'm a paralegal who works in a law firm and do not like when folks knock lawyers.

And many lawyers work extremely hard and long hours to earn their keep. And many work pro bono.

My point was more that if your job is unpleasant and something that that most people wouldn't want to do, you should get paid more. If you have a nice office at government expense, perhaps a bit less. If you are already a "multi-billionaire" pResident then you should probably be paying the government to even foul the nest.

Besides, lawyers are the best knockers about lawyers.

About that amount in Canadian.

by Ms Clifford to Planned Parenthood in the names of Trump and Cohen. Touche'.

I wondered about his background. Yep, someone is paying for it, and I can think of a few possibilities. I just saw the sketch reveal.

but you are helping Rethugs by politicizing him...

They each negotiated my divorces!

(wink)

to marry one...

Shakespeare was right, eh?

I'm flattered that Rethugs hang on my every word.

On contingency, and if the lawyer sees high probability of a payout in some form, will often front a lot of costs for client.

There is no way this is being funded by secret Dem donors.

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of publicity, which will likely keep him in clients indefinitely.

children. He may be doing this for the principle of the thing.

And Stormy Daniels probably isn't poor.

He would make a good father. Wikipedia may not be accurate. He is rather a new figure in the news.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/heavy.com/news/2018/03/michael-avenatti-worth-bankruptcy-divorce-taxes/amp/

Drumpf must have somehow fucked him or one of his clients over, and/or he has some first-hand knowledge of the skeletons in their closets. He is just a bit too predictive of their actions to not be aware of some pretty jaw-dropping stuff.

I’d like to think he’s just doing something patriotic. But if that’s not the case, I’m still good with it.

He doesn't like Trump and wanted to do his part

He was forced into Chapter 11 bankruptcy last year, is being sued to the tune of millions over the Tully's coffee clusterfuck, and is in the middle of a divorce proceeding.

His PR is obviously quite good.

His firm entered into chapter 11 on a partnership pay out issue which was resolved.

And as to the second your title makes the point, anybody can sue but they haven't won in Tully.

He has over $ 100 million in judgements that are settled and collected on and I am guessing his partner share of the contingencies on those alone are worth more than $ 10 million. I would guess getting a $ 40 million judgement against KMPG would be very difficult. I think he has done quite well.

Not sure what possible relevance the divorce proceeding would have.

A golden time for investigative journalism. Everyone wants to be the one to cause his demise.

https://heavy.com/news/2018/03/michael-avenatti-worth-bankruptcy-divorce-taxes/

https://unicourt.com/case/ca-ora-michael-avenatti-vs-lisa-storie-avenatti-830540

Respondent
Storie-avenatti, Lisa
Represented By:
Hersh Mannis Llp
Holstrom Block & Parke Aplc
Petitioner
Avenatti, Michael
Represented By:
Minyard Morris

04/23/2018
HEARING - RFO - CUSTODY / VISITATION / CHILD / SPOUS SUPPORT

04/23/2018
HEARING - RFO - CUSTODY / VISITATION

04/09/2018
APPOINTMENT - MEDIATION

03/26/2018
MINUTE ORDER 03/26/2018

03/26/2018
HEARING - RFO - CUSTODY / VISITATION / CHILD / SPOUS SUPPORT

03/22/2018
DECLARATION - SUPPORT - MOTION TO RELIEVE 03/22/2018 Declaration - Support - Motion To Relieve; Filing Party: STORIE-AVENATTI, LISA

03/22/2018
MOTION - RELIEVED AS COUNSEL 03/22/2018 Motion - Relieved As Counsel; Filing Party: STORIE-AVENATTI, LISA

03/12/2018
MINUTE ORDER 03/12/2018

03/12/2018
HEARING - RFO - CUSTODY / VISITATION / CHILD / SPOUS SUPPORT

03/06/2018
SUBSTITUTION OF ATTORNEY 03/06/2018 Substitution Of Attorney; Filing Party: STORIE-AVENATTI, LISA

02/22/2018
STATUS - MEDIATION 02/22/2018

02/22/2018
APPOINTMENT - PARENT EDUCATION / MEDIATION

02/07/2018
REQUEST - JUDICIAL NOTICE 02/07/2018; Filing Party: STORIE-AVENATTI, LISA

01/11/2018
PROOF OF SERVICE - MAIL (CIVIL) 01/11/2018 Proof of Service by Mail; Filing Party: AVENATTI, MICHAEL

01/08/2018
RFO - CUSTODY / VISITATION 01/08/2018 Request for Order; Filing Party: AVENATTI, MICHAEL

01/08/2018
DECLARATION 01/08/2018 Declaration of Petitioner in Support of Request for Order; Filing Party: AVENATTI, MICHAEL

01/05/2018
PROOF OF SERVICE - MAIL (CIVIL) 01/05/2018 Proof Of Service - Mail (Civil); Filing Party: STORIE-AVENATTI, LISA

01/03/2018
INCOME & EXPENSE DECLARATION 01/03/2018 Income and Expense Declaration; Filing Party: STORIE-AVENATTI, LISA

01/03/2018
RFO - CUSTODY / VISITATION / CHILD SUPPORT / SPOUSAL SUPPORT 01/03/2018 Request for Order; Filing Party: STORIE-AVENATTI, LISA

Have you read/watched zero John Grisham stories?

But he seems to have plenty of other money.

https://www.law360.com/articles/1023444/judge-oks-eagan-avenatti-s-exit-from-ch-11

And that's entirely apart from Avenatti being sued by Keurig and some business partners for mismanaging the Tully's coffee chain.

Looks like it was a corporate move to force a settlement.

My understanding of Tully was that Avenatti entered it after it went bankrupt, but I could be wrong.

...was over him screwing his partner.

The Tully situation is a much larger mess. He and another partner/sucker bought it out of bankruptcy, but Avenatti didn't disclose that he borrowed his share of the funds (that you claim he doesn't need) to do it:


https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/before-stormy-daniels-her-attorney-faced-allegations-of-dubious-business-dealings/

Sifuentez, the former Tully’s employee, said he can’t help but see the irony.

“He’s getting all this positive press for the Stormy Daniels thing, but at the same time, this (expletive) just cost hundreds of people their jobs,” he said.

"screwing his partner"? You know that how? Partner disputes regarding contribution of effort are not uncommon.

The employees job was put at risk in the original bankruptcy which preceeded Avenetti. Had he been successful he would have saved the job.

I estimated his net worth $ 10 million.

It is estimated at $ 20 and that would be without the pending settlement that you referenced

https://coed.com/2018/03/25/michael-avenatti-net-worth-salary-contract-money/

I don't see what's "emotional" about it?

Everyone he is known to have done business with, of which I'm aware, has wound up suing him. That's not an emotion, that's a fact. That's why his firm folded.

Winning large judgments for clients does not translate into either good business sense, nor necessarily an appreciable share of them. His PR does not mention that he was certainly not the only lawyer in those cases, and includes cases in which he played a minor role.

The hero adulation of him is emotional. These are merely facts.

He has won a lot of big cases
He has won cases against very difficult clients for example KMPG
He has won over $ 1 billion in judgements

When you say things like "he screwed" his partners or "everyone he is known to have done business with" has wound up suing him are emotional and frankly ridiculous statements

Where are the lawsuits against Greene Broillet and Wheeler

He was there for many years and they seem to use him as goodwill ambassador for their firm when he passed a sponsor for his car and raised money for Paul Newman's charities instead:

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20070125005642/en/Greene-Broillet-Wheeler-Attorney-Michael-Avenatti-Drive

He founded Eagan Avenatti (with another partner) in 2007 and they were still partners eleven years later. How does that fit with "everyone doing business with . . . sues him"?

Your statements that he filed for bankruptcy are 100% inaccurate

The person who filed the involuntary bankruptcy petition wasn't a partner or employee but a creditor Gerald Tobin who was suing over a disputed payment worth less than $ 30,000. Tobin filed the involuntary bankruptcy and then, apparently never showed up and the petition was dismissed

Eagan Avenatti NEVER filed for bankruptcy and the use of involuntary bankruptcy is like a sub contractor issuing a lien, he was trying to force payment on a disputed bill.



Your allegations that he is bankruptcy - not true Someone filed an involuntary bankruptcy against them, which is akin to filing a lien. The issue was dismissed.

Your allegation that he is sued by everyone he does business with - not true, in fact his 11 year partnership with Eagan is longer than most partnerships of this kind.

I looked up several of his former business partnerships and didn't find any besides the two you have listed, neither of which have been found against him.

Your allegation that the firm folded is - not true, I just called Eagan Avenatti and the firm that Avenatti started 11 years ago is still in operation. You should call them and tell them they are no longer in business.

https://www.martindale.com/newport-beach/california/eagan-avenatti-llp-232547-f/

But not the person you assumed. Everything Grantcart posted in this thread about Avenatti is false.


https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.516137/gov.uscourts.nysd.516137.108.0.pdf

The Government expects that the evidence at trial will show that, at the time of his charged conduct, the defendant was in significant debt. Specifically, the Government presently estimates that the defendant’s debts at that time were, conservatively, in excess of $15 million. These debts were owed to various sources, including the individual identified in the Superseding Indictment as Attorney-1, multiple of the defendant’s former clients, one or more of his former law partners, and both of his former spouses. The debts resulted from, among other things, unpaid civil judgments, defaulted personal loans, and child and spousal support in arrears. The Government intends for the evidence of these debts to be presented principally through documentary evidence, along with brief testimony from two witnesses: (1) a lay witness who assisted the defendant with managing his finances, and (2) a law enforcement witness who may present one or more summary charts, including regarding financial records.

That everything you have said here has now been proven false.

“Obama is pulling the strings! George Soros is backing him! MAGA!”

You know that the “Michael Avenatti is a deep-state activist” horseflop is coming very soon from the right. They’ve probably been data-mining their asses off looking for the slightest smudge of dirt.

promote his career all the more.

Republicans cannot win on this more.

is the way Trump runs his organization. It is a criminal family... New York Mafia.

And other recent developments further tightening noose and recasting perception of Trump in average person’s mind.

Clearly, a BUNCH of people on all political sides want Trump out and are building people in this country up to that eventuality.

...he has all the earmarks of a Dem avenger sent down from on high.

I feel sort of icky buying into some sort of Illuminati-type theory, but he's managed to blend Democratic politics and anti-Trump narratives so seamlessly, and with such panache, it looks like a professional HS, as you say.

Him.. unabashedly fearless...yet so far can back it all up with facts. Our people are sometimes way too meek, cautious, and afraid to offend

worked for Republicans, doing opposition research.

... http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-avenatti-stormy-trump-20180407-story.html

I think the guys lives at the station. Seems like he's on every prime time MSNBC show every single night! I like him though. He's respectful of the other guests and to the hosts. He is clearly on a mission. It would be serious karma if Stormy and her lawyer are the ones to take Trump down. Not Russia, not the sexual assaults, not the lies, but his past libido. A woman who he thought he could use, pay off and toss aside like trash will take him down.

The man is a straight up dog. How anyone with such baggage could even think about running for president and THEN get elected doesn't speak well for America. It's like we've lost all common sense and sense of decency. He is dragging us down a depraved road and it's hard to believe there are "Christians" who want to walk this road with him. I guess the only thing that would really turn the Trumpers against him is if he paid a woman to have an abortion or it was found out he had homosexual sex. Those are the only things white evangelicals care about.

And then every show on CNN.

Going Down In Flames (Lookin' Bad)

I'm going down in flames, it’s looking bad
I got Mueller, Stormy, Manafort and Vlad
I'm going down in flames, it’s looking bad, now Lord
I ain't gonna be treated this way

Them lawyers just don’t want to work for me
‘Cuz I don’t listen, and I rarely pay their fee
Them lawyers just don’t want to work for me, now Lord
I ain't gonna be treated this way

My fixer needs a fixer of his own
He paid Stormy with a home equity loan
My fixer needs a fixer of his own, now Lord
He ain't gonna be treated this way

You can spank me with an old magazine
Just don't talk about the things you might have seen
You can spank me with an old magazine, now Lord
‘Cuz The Donald actually loves being treated that way

I make my women sign an NDA
And I might even offer them a little pay
I make my women sign an NDA, now Lord
I ain't gonna be treated this way

(REPEAT CHORUS)

I'll make adultery great again, you'll see
And I got a little thing for Russian pee
I'll make adultery great again, you'll see, now Lord
I ain't gonna be treated this way

When things get bad I holler Fake News
And turn on Fox & Friends to shape my global views
When things get bad I holler Fake News, now Lord
I ain't gonna be treated this way

Y’all know how this thing is gonna end
I’m gonna pardon each and every tight-lipped friend
Y’all know how this thing is gonna end, now Lord
I ain't gonna be treated this way

(REPEAT CHORUS)

If not, this has been a huge service.

He's shredding the opposition! I mean this guy is just Amazing. He is right about the skill level of Trumps defense attorneys. I thought the Trump defense team would be at least halfway decent and have some kinda plan in place to detour Daniels and Avenatti. I enjoy listening to him speak cause he makes it easy for the American people to understand what's really going on. You know if the Trump team is having problems with Avenatti and Daniels what chance do they have against the big dog Robert Mueller.

...a couple of weeks ago. The man is certainly no angel, rather like his client -- but the pair of them might be just what we need to wound Trump, I hope fatally. For that, and especially for Stormy's guts in taking on Trump, I applaud them.


http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-avenatti-stormy-trump-20180407-story.html

Glad he is on our side.

This guy is messy. But he seems to be exactly the lawyer needed to take on Trump's team.

He's definitely milking it for all it's worth lol

The hell out of it.

"Who might be paying for all this?"
That's really interesting. I hadn't thought of that, but it's important.
We have the precedent of Peter Thiel/Gawker to consider.

Leaving aside the cynicsm about lawyers, this has got to be racking up big costs.
Maybe Avenatti's in for a cut of Stormy's book / acting paydays but that's not paying the
day-to-days. Collecting from the Trump org at some future date? Please.
If the Trump syndicate goes down, it probably all deflates like a balloon - likely nothing there.
The opportunity cost alone for a lawyer of this skill has got to be very high.

We should want to know how this works. It may be enjoyable, but we don't want
to be surprised.

if they are both available

We need to hit first, and we need to hit back.

I have always been amazed by the people on DU who whine about Rahm. I love Rahm. He is ruthless.

Illinois Democrats know how to fight back. We have Madigan and we have Emanuel, disciplined and ruthless. Politics is not for sissies.

I've been sure for a while that some one or some organisation is supporting Avenatti with finance, information, advice or all three.

If he can race in Ferarri 458's, he can find $$$100K. Racers are primarily driven by the need to excel, combined with a pretty serious adrenalin jones. But- if you can't stay cool, calm, and focused with a big load of adrenalin in your system, you won't last long! And your frontal lobes need to have supervisory control over your amyglade - 'cuz that old lizard brain is hard-wired fast, but the lizard's a f'n crasher! (Dale Earnhardt Jr. once fired a hot young prospect, because "Son, I've run out of cars for you to wreck!&quot


[link:https://www.motorsport.com/lemans/photo/main-gallery/66-jmw-motorsport-ferrari-458-gte-abdulaziz-al-faisal-jakub-giermaziak-michael-avenatt-24/|

and his client into the SDNY federal case against Cohen. O'Donnell showed, then read a transcript of the hearing last week (to start a riff about Trump's lawyers) of the attys and there was Avenatti listed as an "interested party".