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Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 12:00 PM Apr 2018

Stormy Daniels is a hero, history will treat her very well, thank you very much.

Like her atty said last night on Lawrence, this woman is taking on the most powerful, corrupt and violent men on earth. I added the word violent, but it is appropriate here.

She is taking on the President of the USA who is known to be connected with both American and Russian gangsters, she is taking on Vladimir Putin who is known to murder his enemies, and she is taking on the entire GOP which is traitorous and corrupt.

I dont know if she realizes how much courage she has or what a hero she really is, but she is.

Monuments to her would be appropriate.

I dont care if she makes a billion dollars when this is all said and done, it STILL wont be enough considering what she has done for the human species.

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Stormy Daniels is a hero, history will treat her very well, thank you very much. (Original Post) Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 OP
Shes a dirtball who has made a career of servicing other dirtballs 4139 Apr 2018 #1
I find it curious how you used the word dirtBALL jodymarie aimee Apr 2018 #2
I dont respond to them, at all, anymore. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #24
What specifically leads you to allege these claims? LanternWaste Apr 2018 #3
Any particular reason you're here a) slut-shaming and b) repeating right-wing talking points? Tarc Apr 2018 #4
Hear, hear ailsagirl Apr 2018 #9
No doubt workinclasszero Apr 2018 #23
MTE. I am using ignore more than usual these days...especially when its so obvious. anneboleyn Apr 2018 #35
It's pretty telling when they only post that once and never rebut Tarc Apr 2018 #48
Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #47
Do you have some anger/sexual management issues? Your comment is deflecting erronis Apr 2018 #5
"the players in the WH and congress are most worthy of approbation" Glorfindel Apr 2018 #8
Serves me right for using a word I tried to spell and had to rely on a checker! erronis Apr 2018 #10
That's what friends are for! Glorfindel Apr 2018 #11
Wrong! mountain grammy Apr 2018 #13
She may be a "dirtball" in your eyes, but at least she's never hidden it or paid off those... George II Apr 2018 #14
Hahaha. MAGA!!!!!!!!!! blake2012 Apr 2018 #16
You and I have a very different opion of what constitutes a "dirtball" BoneyardDem Apr 2018 #19
This. MontanaMama Apr 2018 #39
Interesting opinion. Amimnoch Apr 2018 #22
meh, rather than argue, I will block you. Ta! nt Javaman Apr 2018 #29
Me too. So tired of this shit. anneboleyn Apr 2018 #36
She's a hero cp Apr 2018 #6
I'm proud of obnoxiousdrunk Apr 2018 #7
She's smarter than the three amigos Trump, Cohen and Hannity dalton99a Apr 2018 #12
Betcha her hair is real and she doesn't spend nearly as much time in the morning arranging it. George II Apr 2018 #15
LOL! lunatica Apr 2018 #26
I don't think there would be an NDA if she was a hero. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #17
Big difference between what she "was" and is now, standing up to intl killers. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #25
I don't see it that way. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #27
Well, there are indirect deaths in trump's wake, deaths that he could have prevented: George II Apr 2018 #32
I dont think there is anything wrong with being a porn star. lunatica Apr 2018 #30
"I dont think there is anything wrong with being a porn star." NCTraveler Apr 2018 #31
My solution to that is to not watch it. lunatica Apr 2018 #34
I don't live by the words you just promoted. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #37
No need to put words in my mouth lunatica Apr 2018 #40
Again, you can't believe it as written. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #41
So why are you being so judgmental? lunatica Apr 2018 #42
She has been virulently attacked here. Blue_true Apr 2018 #18
Let's see... HopeAgain Apr 2018 #20
I am no fan of pornographers or pornagraphy in its present form ismnotwasm Apr 2018 #21
I tend to see her as someone who refuses to be a victim TNLib Apr 2018 #28
A hero? Nah. She is just someone who is not willing to be bullied. IluvPitties Apr 2018 #33
She is not a hero but any stretch of the definition oberliner Apr 2018 #38
...and has decided to stand up to the most powerful person in the USA BoneyardDem Apr 2018 #46
Nice. Kingofalldems Apr 2018 #49
Above all, she's a mother whose child was personally threatened Yavin4 Apr 2018 #43
H E R O ...Big time, may actually be the REASON rump is taken down. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #45
She is a human being who is stepping up and doing the right thing. Lars39 Apr 2018 #44

4139

(1,893 posts)
1. Shes a dirtball who has made a career of servicing other dirtballs
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 12:53 PM
Apr 2018

She just wants money...cool, let her make her money, but she is a dirtball.

 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
2. I find it curious how you used the word dirtBALL
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 01:09 PM
Apr 2018

when Trump just used the word slimeBALL. Nice job copying you know who.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
3. What specifically leads you to allege these claims?
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 01:11 PM
Apr 2018

What specifically leads you to allege these claims?

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
4. Any particular reason you're here a) slut-shaming and b) repeating right-wing talking points?
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 01:15 PM
Apr 2018

Last edited Tue Apr 17, 2018, 01:50 PM - Edit history (1)

Are you sure you're on the right forum, FRiend?

Actors in the adult film industry are adults engaging in consensual sex for entertainment purposes. If you're too much of a prude to like or enjoy porn, that's your right, but Stormy Daniels is no less of a credible critic of Trump because of her chosen, legal profession. That is the basest of logical fallacies.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
23. No doubt
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 02:49 PM
Apr 2018

And to the poster 'slut shaming' on this board, it looks bad.

As always the males doing the activities get a pass, or or even looked up to and congratulated for it.

The woman get punished, since the dawn of fuckin time apparently.

Its BS IMO

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
48. It's pretty telling when they only post that once and never rebut
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 05:26 PM
Apr 2018

One-and-dones are the most worthy of ignores, I agree.

erronis

(15,303 posts)
5. Do you have some anger/sexual management issues? Your comment is deflecting
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 01:20 PM
Apr 2018

away from the fact that a crime family is trying to take over this country. There is nobody pure in this world (except perhaps you) but the players in the WH and congress are most worthy of opprobrium (otherwise: disgust.)

Glorfindel

(9,730 posts)
8. "the players in the WH and congress are most worthy of approbation"
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 01:25 PM
Apr 2018

Could you possibly mean "opprobrium"? It means harsh criticism, disapproval. "Approbation" means approval or praise, which I don't believe the players in the WH and congress deserve.

erronis

(15,303 posts)
10. Serves me right for using a word I tried to spell and had to rely on a checker!
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 01:30 PM
Apr 2018

And I totally agree with your analysis and sentiment about the WH and congress!

Thanks!

mountain grammy

(26,626 posts)
13. Wrong!
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 01:47 PM
Apr 2018

A male friend said to me "why would she say she didn't want to have sex with him, wasn't attracted to him but went ahead and did it anyway and then said it was consensual? I don't get it."

Spoken like a man..

Stormy Daniels is a hero!

George II

(67,782 posts)
14. She may be a "dirtball" in your eyes, but at least she's never hidden it or paid off those...
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 01:57 PM
Apr 2018

...she was a "dirtball" with to keep them silent.

She's been up front and public throughout here entire career, trump (or should I say Dennison?) hasn't.

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
19. You and I have a very different opion of what constitutes a "dirtball"
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 02:41 PM
Apr 2018

tuck your morality back in your pants and look at the bigger picture

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
22. Interesting opinion.
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 02:47 PM
Apr 2018

My own is that people whom perpetuate slut shaming tactics and expound right-wing talking points are dirtballs myself. Maybe that’s just me?

cp

(6,639 posts)
6. She's a hero
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 01:23 PM
Apr 2018

Have felt that all along. She has more courage than all the R's in Congress combined. Brave woman!
Thank you, Stormy.
And thanks for posting, Eliot Rosewater (love Vonnegut, too).

dalton99a

(81,526 posts)
12. She's smarter than the three amigos Trump, Cohen and Hannity
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 01:40 PM
Apr 2018

And much more honest

(Yeah, her boobs are fake, so what)

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
17. I don't think there would be an NDA if she was a hero.
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 02:07 PM
Apr 2018

I don't find money grubbing to be heroic.

I don't find the type of porn she has taken part in throughout her career to be heroic.

I do support her. She is currently useful.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
27. I don't see it that way.
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 03:04 PM
Apr 2018

Please show me the list of deaths in Trump and Cohen's wake.

Putin is an international killer. Trump and Cohen are simply shady as fuck.

She is looking for a payday. I don't fault her. I don't see her as even close to heroic. Like I said, more of a useful tool.

George II

(67,782 posts)
32. Well, there are indirect deaths in trump's wake, deaths that he could have prevented:
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 03:26 PM
Apr 2018

For example, many have died because of his refusal to allow Syrian refugees in the county, and there still are people dying in Puerto Rico as a result of the hurricane and his inaction

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
30. I dont think there is anything wrong with being a porn star.
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 03:17 PM
Apr 2018

Or a sexual worker of any kind, for that matter as long as it is a legitimate choice. And I don’t even watch porn. I just believe everyone deserves fundamental respect at the very least, until they consistently do something to hurt others. People, such as Trump lose my respect. Stormy would also lose it if she were like Trump.

Right now she’s earned more of my respect. Would you or I take on the President of the United States? I know I would be too fearful, so I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
31. "I dont think there is anything wrong with being a porn star."
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 03:24 PM
Apr 2018

Nor do I, depending on what you are promoting to society. I think being a banker is a very noble profession. I do not respect all or even most bankers. These things can't be wrapped up in neat little absolute boxes without spillage.

I simply can't find respect for those promoting bending over in front of an extremely angry man and letting him pound you relentlessly until he pulls out and covers your face in semen. That is what she specialized in. Angry red faced men with aggression to burn.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
34. My solution to that is to not watch it.
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 03:34 PM
Apr 2018

simply because it’s of absolutely no interest to me. Not my thing but I don’t care if it is someone’s thing. It’s each persons choice.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
37. I don't live by the words you just promoted.
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 03:42 PM
Apr 2018

"Not my thing but I don’t care if it is someone’s thing."

I cannot begin to tell you how many things are "not my thing" yet I care if they are other peoples thing. The list is long. Interestingly enough, your list is long as well. You don't believe in the comment you just wrote. It's not possible.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
40. No need to put words in my mouth
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 04:06 PM
Apr 2018

The thing I’m specifically talking about is the choice of being a porn star or sex worker. I picked my words carefully.

And yes, I do have a long list of things I judge which are not my thing.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
41. Again, you can't believe it as written.
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 04:10 PM
Apr 2018

"The thing I’m specifically talking about is the choice of being a porn star or sex worker."

That leaves a lot out there. Including the promotion of some of the worst society has to offer.

I put zero words in your mouth. Not a one.

"And yes, I do have a long list of things I judge which are not my thing."



And I will guarantee I could post some links to porn and sex work that would fall under that category.

There are things most all of us on this site want to see regulated in the porn and sex industry. You have made absolute comments in two very wide ranging fields that don't match up with your other thoughts.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
42. So why are you being so judgmental?
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 04:20 PM
Apr 2018

I would think you’d be less harsh on sex workers.

You come across as too righteous to allow for different views. Your choice.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
20. Let's see...
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 02:43 PM
Apr 2018

I have seen the lionization of Comey, who cost us the presidential election, a porn star who initially accepted a six-figure payoff to stay quiet during the presidential election, a litigation attorney who seems to believe that he should be the center of the world's attention because he represents said porn star who wants to kiss and tell after taking said money.

History will treat her as one character in a complex play with a bizarre cast of characters, if things turn out well. And if things turn out well, the real thing that will have brought down the Administration will have been Trump himself.

ismnotwasm

(41,992 posts)
21. I am no fan of pornographers or pornagraphy in its present form
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 02:43 PM
Apr 2018

I’m not a fan of people who deliberately cause harm and pain by sleeping with other peoples spouses —unless all parties have agreed.

That being said I don’t know if Stormy is an activist for the sex-worker community, although she is aware of the problems, judging by interviews, but her actions now are definitely helping the nation.

I’m hoping she will ultimately help those who are victimized by the porn industry and sex work, by making the entire industry accountable to all its workers. Unions, healthcare, protection from coercion and trafficking—I believe she can be a voice for positive change badly needed in the sex worker industry.

I also hope she takes Trump down.

So hero? Yeah. On a number of levels

TNLib

(1,819 posts)
28. I tend to see her as someone who refuses to be a victim
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 03:07 PM
Apr 2018

and I think when she realized she was basically conned by her former attorney and then threatened she was going to go for the jugular.

She's not someone I would cross. Trump definitely messed with the wrong person.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
38. She is not a hero but any stretch of the definition
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 03:44 PM
Apr 2018

She had sex with a famous rich guy took money to not talk about it and is now milking that for all its worth

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
46. ...and has decided to stand up to the most powerful person in the USA
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 04:59 PM
Apr 2018

to tell her story. Make no mistake, Trump has ruined more than one life on his way to POTUS.

Your inclination to demean what she is doing now, based on your personal judgements of her past are very enlightening. I hope you were always honest, true, noble and acted in the best moral interests of some other persons value system...otherwise you too may be judged by an oberliner

Yavin4

(35,443 posts)
43. Above all, she's a mother whose child was personally threatened
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 04:21 PM
Apr 2018

And instead of hiding, which most of us would do, she is directly and openly taking on the people that threatened her.

That's the very definition of hero, someone that disregards personal safety to do what's right.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
45. H E R O ...Big time, may actually be the REASON rump is taken down.
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 04:34 PM
Apr 2018


Tremendous courage, Avenatti also.
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