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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsStormy Daniels is a hero, history will treat her very well, thank you very much.
Like her atty said last night on Lawrence, this woman is taking on the most powerful, corrupt and violent men on earth. I added the word violent, but it is appropriate here.
She is taking on the President of the USA who is known to be connected with both American and Russian gangsters, she is taking on Vladimir Putin who is known to murder his enemies, and she is taking on the entire GOP which is traitorous and corrupt.
I dont know if she realizes how much courage she has or what a hero she really is, but she is.
Monuments to her would be appropriate.
I dont care if she makes a billion dollars when this is all said and done, it STILL wont be enough considering what she has done for the human species.
4139
(1,893 posts)She just wants money...cool, let her make her money, but she is a dirtball.
jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)when Trump just used the word slimeBALL. Nice job copying you know who.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)What specifically leads you to allege these claims?
Tarc
(10,476 posts)Last edited Tue Apr 17, 2018, 01:50 PM - Edit history (1)
Are you sure you're on the right forum, FRiend?
Actors in the adult film industry are adults engaging in consensual sex for entertainment purposes. If you're too much of a prude to like or enjoy porn, that's your right, but Stormy Daniels is no less of a credible critic of Trump because of her chosen, legal profession. That is the basest of logical fallacies.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)And to the poster 'slut shaming' on this board, it looks bad.
As always the males doing the activities get a pass, or or even looked up to and congratulated for it.
The woman get punished, since the dawn of fuckin time apparently.
Its BS IMO
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)One-and-dones are the most worthy of ignores, I agree.
erronis
(15,303 posts)away from the fact that a crime family is trying to take over this country. There is nobody pure in this world (except perhaps you) but the players in the WH and congress are most worthy of opprobrium (otherwise: disgust.)
Glorfindel
(9,730 posts)Could you possibly mean "opprobrium"? It means harsh criticism, disapproval. "Approbation" means approval or praise, which I don't believe the players in the WH and congress deserve.
erronis
(15,303 posts)And I totally agree with your analysis and sentiment about the WH and congress!
Thanks!
Glorfindel
(9,730 posts)mountain grammy
(26,626 posts)A male friend said to me "why would she say she didn't want to have sex with him, wasn't attracted to him but went ahead and did it anyway and then said it was consensual? I don't get it."
Spoken like a man..
Stormy Daniels is a hero!
George II
(67,782 posts)...she was a "dirtball" with to keep them silent.
She's been up front and public throughout here entire career, trump (or should I say Dennison?) hasn't.
blake2012
(1,294 posts)BoneyardDem
(1,202 posts)tuck your morality back in your pants and look at the bigger picture
MontanaMama
(23,322 posts)Well said.
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)My own is that people whom perpetuate slut shaming tactics and expound right-wing talking points are dirtballs myself. Maybe thats just me?
Javaman
(62,531 posts)anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)cp
(6,639 posts)Have felt that all along. She has more courage than all the R's in Congress combined. Brave woman!
Thank you, Stormy.
And thanks for posting, Eliot Rosewater (love Vonnegut, too).
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,910 posts)my fellow Louisianan Ms Daniels.
dalton99a
(81,526 posts)And much more honest
(Yeah, her boobs are fake, so what)
George II
(67,782 posts)Ouch!
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I don't find money grubbing to be heroic.
I don't find the type of porn she has taken part in throughout her career to be heroic.
I do support her. She is currently useful.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Please show me the list of deaths in Trump and Cohen's wake.
Putin is an international killer. Trump and Cohen are simply shady as fuck.
She is looking for a payday. I don't fault her. I don't see her as even close to heroic. Like I said, more of a useful tool.
George II
(67,782 posts)For example, many have died because of his refusal to allow Syrian refugees in the county, and there still are people dying in Puerto Rico as a result of the hurricane and his inaction
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Or a sexual worker of any kind, for that matter as long as it is a legitimate choice. And I dont even watch porn. I just believe everyone deserves fundamental respect at the very least, until they consistently do something to hurt others. People, such as Trump lose my respect. Stormy would also lose it if she were like Trump.
Right now shes earned more of my respect. Would you or I take on the President of the United States? I know I would be too fearful, so Im pretty sure I wouldnt.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Nor do I, depending on what you are promoting to society. I think being a banker is a very noble profession. I do not respect all or even most bankers. These things can't be wrapped up in neat little absolute boxes without spillage.
I simply can't find respect for those promoting bending over in front of an extremely angry man and letting him pound you relentlessly until he pulls out and covers your face in semen. That is what she specialized in. Angry red faced men with aggression to burn.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)simply because its of absolutely no interest to me. Not my thing but I dont care if it is someones thing. Its each persons choice.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)"Not my thing but I dont care if it is someones thing."
I cannot begin to tell you how many things are "not my thing" yet I care if they are other peoples thing. The list is long. Interestingly enough, your list is long as well. You don't believe in the comment you just wrote. It's not possible.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)The thing Im specifically talking about is the choice of being a porn star or sex worker. I picked my words carefully.
And yes, I do have a long list of things I judge which are not my thing.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)"The thing Im specifically talking about is the choice of being a porn star or sex worker."
That leaves a lot out there. Including the promotion of some of the worst society has to offer.
I put zero words in your mouth. Not a one.
"And yes, I do have a long list of things I judge which are not my thing."
And I will guarantee I could post some links to porn and sex work that would fall under that category.
There are things most all of us on this site want to see regulated in the porn and sex industry. You have made absolute comments in two very wide ranging fields that don't match up with your other thoughts.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)I would think youd be less harsh on sex workers.
You come across as too righteous to allow for different views. Your choice.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)But in regards to her, I go with "the enemy of my enemy" saying.
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)I have seen the lionization of Comey, who cost us the presidential election, a porn star who initially accepted a six-figure payoff to stay quiet during the presidential election, a litigation attorney who seems to believe that he should be the center of the world's attention because he represents said porn star who wants to kiss and tell after taking said money.
History will treat her as one character in a complex play with a bizarre cast of characters, if things turn out well. And if things turn out well, the real thing that will have brought down the Administration will have been Trump himself.
ismnotwasm
(41,992 posts)Im not a fan of people who deliberately cause harm and pain by sleeping with other peoples spouses unless all parties have agreed.
That being said I dont know if Stormy is an activist for the sex-worker community, although she is aware of the problems, judging by interviews, but her actions now are definitely helping the nation.
Im hoping she will ultimately help those who are victimized by the porn industry and sex work, by making the entire industry accountable to all its workers. Unions, healthcare, protection from coercion and traffickingI believe she can be a voice for positive change badly needed in the sex worker industry.
I also hope she takes Trump down.
So hero? Yeah. On a number of levels
TNLib
(1,819 posts)and I think when she realized she was basically conned by her former attorney and then threatened she was going to go for the jugular.
She's not someone I would cross. Trump definitely messed with the wrong person.
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)She had sex with a famous rich guy took money to not talk about it and is now milking that for all its worth
BoneyardDem
(1,202 posts)to tell her story. Make no mistake, Trump has ruined more than one life on his way to POTUS.
Your inclination to demean what she is doing now, based on your personal judgements of her past are very enlightening. I hope you were always honest, true, noble and acted in the best moral interests of some other persons value system...otherwise you too may be judged by an oberliner
Kingofalldems
(38,459 posts)Yavin4
(35,443 posts)And instead of hiding, which most of us would do, she is directly and openly taking on the people that threatened her.
That's the very definition of hero, someone that disregards personal safety to do what's right.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)Tremendous courage, Avenatti also.