excellent!

Kara Hultgreen, Carey lohrenz are a couple who came before her

A massive engine failure or explosive decompression, each needs immediate attention. Having both at the same time takes superior attention. Most catastrophic incidents in the air are usually the combination of more than one major failure. Both these failures are part of required simulator training. If both are not presently inserted simultaneously by instructors, they will be now. Look up the Sioux City accident. It's on all the sims I've worked on after it happened. Hats off to Pilot Shults.

Wonder why she picked Philadelphia, since the plane was over the New York Southern Tier when the failure occurred.

Both Wilkes Barre / Scranton and Lehigh Valley airports are closer.

I'm from Scranton and live in the NY Southern Tier. Several good runways in the area. Once she descended, maybe she was ordered to burn or dump fuel to avoid a fireball upon landing and the extra distance would give the time needed. On top of that there may be better emergency equipment in Philly, but that's not the best reason, just wag.

99% Complete Boredom

1% Absolute Terror.

To Tammie Jo Shults

... if flying is exciting, you are doing something wrong....

A good friend of mine is a former top gun instructor - the actual "Jester" in Top Gun, the movie. He is the smoothest pilot I ever flew with.

But crashing in an airplane scares the crap out of most people. I think it is certainly knowing you are going to die in a plane crash from high, and knowing that there won't likely be much remains of the dead.

As a software developer, I've unfortunately seen how the sausage is made. Flying still stresses me out, but not because of mechanical failures. (Well mostly not.)

Fortunately, experiencing TSA shifts the stress away from the actual flight. Just getting on the plane feels like victory.

...Everything I learned I still use today as an economist. This is a great training ground for logical thinking...

Plumber? Electrician? Hairstylist? Get a license.
Write code to run a nuclear reactor? Come on down!

The ratio of developers to competent developers in my mind is probably close to 50:1. It's truly horrifying to know how the sausage is made.

One of my pet peeves, too. But also I was really set back by the bugs in development objects. I remember using MS Visual Basic, and sometime a component just would not act as advertised. And that would set back development time. And instead of fixing bugs, they cam out with new platforms with new bugs, and you had to relearn everything. Oh I was frustrated.

I now take on projects such as measuring price elasticities in global trade, using a data set of nearly 40 million records. So SQL is my thing...

Not because planes break, but because pilots do stupid things...

but to do what she and the crew did to land that plane was courageous and skill. It could have been a lot worse.

The Captain flew the plane. The First Officer took care of everything else. The Flight Attendants executed their training. My hats off to the passengers who grabbed hold and held on. Troops know you don't let your buddy go. The near seat passengers are the ones that need post trauma care.

Somewhere, I sure would like to hear the recorded conversation between the plane and ATC.

Reference was made to Sioux City. They had four pilots in that cockpit to fly that 1011 to the airport. There were survivors.

Smithsonian Air and Space magazine (early 2002) had a good article about the interaction of the various ATCs.

I read that she even came down the aisle after the landing to thank the passengers for their part

Link to tweet

if it was the woman who went partially out of the window who died. did i also read that some large debris would have hit the ground?

i'm just happy that the plane landed safely and for those who did survive. the only recurring nightmares i have are about planes crashing. in these dreams i'm not in the jets but i can see the disaster happening and am horrified at the human toll i know it will take.

also i will be flying on SW this coming Sunday. gulp.

and i travel for work so i do it a lot. it's the why it happened, was it avoidable, was this aircraft not maintained? that leaves me queasy.
the odds of being killed at a railroad crossing I believe are worse than while flying.
I am still wondering if it was the woman who got sucked into the window who died, but assume that is the case. Poor thing. It makes me proud that a woman safely landed the plane.

being sucked out at that altitude would probably have sucked the breath out of her more or less instantly, so she probably did not suffer much

It looked a first stage turbine failure. The engine nacelle was still firmly attached. It was probably a turbine blade that broke the window.

Jennifer Riordan

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/04/18/us/philadelphia-southwest-flight-jennifer-riordan/index.html?rm=1

tragic. i'm glad the plane landed safely but very sad for her and her loved ones.

Of the pilot talking to the tower. She was very calm, totally amazing. The link has additional information about this amazing woman.


https://heavy.com/news/2018/04/tammie-jo-shults-pilot-southwest-flight-1380-engine-hero/

Amazing job at bringing that plane down safely! That is one of my biggest fears. My brother just retired from being an Air Force F-16 pilot who has been on many dangerous missions and is now flying for Delta in retirement. If anything ever goes wrong, I would definitely want an ex-military pilot at the controls.

The pilot, there was a nurse and EMT people on board who helped the injured and the other passengers who helped them all as well as a prepared ground crew. WOW!

I want the captain of my plane to be a military-trained fighter pilot. And I'm willing to pay the price for that level of experience and training.

Most fighter pilots fly single pilot ships compared to those flown by a crew, and the knowledge and skill given doesn’t translate as well to transport category aircraft. The average fighter pilot also flies considerably fewer hours per year. For decades following WWII, fighter pilots had a harder time finding employment with the airlines for these reasons. Due to a glut of trained pilots, the airlines preferred transport and bomber pilots who were trained to work in a crew environment in larger, multi-engine, and more stable aircraft.

At handling the situation and getting the aircraft on the ground.

Looking at some of the images of the engine posted online by the passengers that is a catastrophic failure of the engine. Amazed it did not shear off from the pylon altogether...the violence involved to do that type of damage is incredible.

I also listened to the audio of the communication between the pilot and air traffic control and was impressed with how well everyone handled this emergency.

and I must say the emergency responders at the airport were incredible and had preliminary info out there about what appeared to have happened that really drove home how scary this was. It is just so heart-breaking that a young woman died as a result.

She had to be the unlucky one to sit in that specific seat.