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(38,958 posts)dem4decades
(11,297 posts)mitch96
(13,912 posts)I think I heard a guy speaking as well...
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Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)ATC is freaking out and she's just calm, cool, and collected.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)freaking out. They sounded professional to me.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)That's not how they normally sound.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)He was speaking quickly, which was necessary, but in no way freaking out. One of my closest friends is a private pilot. We listened to that together this morning over coffee, both agreeing the pilot was awesome. My friend commented, thats a good ATC guy.
I guess we heard it differently. But ATC folks are not paid to freak out.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)only, one of the ATC said 27r for proposed landing when 27l had been established as firm landing strip. Otherwise, glad they had a competent and in control captain and crew, all the way to landing. THIS is how to do a job! .damn sorry to see the fatality and injuries. I have to find out how old this equipment is.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)conversation between commercial pilots and air traffic control, it's incredibly professional. Some of the best trained people in the Universe.
barbtries
(28,799 posts)once upon a time i took an aptitude test and air traffic controller was the number 1 occupation they came up with! I couldn't do it, I could not be responsible for so many lives. i'm emotional as hell.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)The work they did landing and redirecting all those planes on 9/11 is a prime example of the professionalism and calmness under fire of the men and women who are ATC.
SeattleVet
(5,477 posts)The results of excellent training and experience.
Dem_4_Life
(1,765 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,359 posts)peggysue2
(10,833 posts)This is what professionalism and experience is all about. Kudos to that whole team. This could have ended up so much worse for all those passengers and crew.
Impressive!
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)the training of airline pilots is. And how they have to do recurrent training every single year. I know that in the past, at least with some accidents, the scenarios are then run and re-run in simulators.
As I recall, when American Airlines flight 191 crashed shortly after takeoff at Chicago's O'Hare field on May 25, 1979, the loss of the engine was simulated over and over, and it turned out it was a catastrophic loss from which no recovery was possible. Sometimes (and I believe there are a couple of former airline pilots here on DU) re-visiting an accident provides useful information that is then incorporated into training.
Air Traffic Controllers are likewise highly and thoroughly trained.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)They also lost the slats on the lost engine side (and the sensor telling them they lost the slats)
They pitched the plane for a slower safe engine-out climb out speed which was slower than the stall speed of the wing with no slats.
Flying the emergency procedure without knowing the slats were retracted did them in. The plane would have been controllable at a higher airspeed. They had no way to know and things happened to fast.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)As I recall, they best pilots ran through that many, many times, and even knowing ahead of time exactly what was going to happen, they still couldn't recover.
caraher
(6,278 posts)I looked up the NTSB accident report. Pilots were able to recover in the simulator, but only because they knew what was going to happen (p. 54 of report, p. 57 of .pdf):
I didn't know all these details - what I remember from when it happened was just that they lost and engine and that was that.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)Thank you.
Stinky The Clown
(67,808 posts)The definition of "professional".
leanforward
(1,076 posts)1380 controlled the air space, with advisors.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)at how disciplined and calm these pilots always are. It's almost totally against human nature, it seems to me.
DemoTex
(25,399 posts)Cleared to land on PHL 27L in a Boeing 737-300 in 1999, with severe damage to the #1 CFM-56 engine. On a flight from BOS to PHL. This audio sends chills up my spine, remembering our cool, calm, and successful emergency almost 20 years ago.
Suburban Warrior
(405 posts)The Captain of Southwest 1380 today was Tammie Jo Shults. Schults was one of the first female fighter pilots in the US military and was the first woman pilot to fly an F-18 Hornet for the Navy.
http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article209178274.html
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)But how polite she was, my first thought was that this lady has flown planes with bombs!
mitch96
(13,912 posts)I can just see it now.. "Please smile at the laser, your on camera"
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bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)passengers following the landing!
https://www.thedailybeast.com/hero-southwest-pilot-was-one-of-navys-first-female-fighter-pilots?ref=home
mountain grammy
(26,626 posts)Cool, calm and collected. That's a woman in charge. Oh, I know, both sexes are professional in these situations, just let me gloat a little. Good to hear a female voice in charge.
progressoid
(49,991 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,209 posts)If you sit in the center of the plane, where the lateral & longitudinal axes meet, it's the smoothest section of the plane and most reinforced. It affords the best protection in a crash, especially at sea, and in the event of catestrophic engine failures. Granted, it's also near the fuel cells, but if something happens where those go, you've either crashed or your inflight and are toast either way.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)For a while everyone was talking about wanting to sit in the tail.