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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:21 PM Apr 2018

No blind poll here but simple.. Pelosi in or out?


55 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
Yes..love her but time for new blood
20 (36%)
No, love her, stay the course
33 (60%)
Other
2 (4%)
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No blind poll here but simple.. Pelosi in or out? (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 OP
All due respect, admiration, and appreciation to her nt Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #1
Uh-huh. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #3
Huh? Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #4
Curious ..how can anyone be "other" ? Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #2
Other sometimes means... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #5
Thanks nj. For the shitty reply Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #9
You're welcome. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #11
Always a warning sign... suppression of ideas Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #16
LOL NurseJackie Apr 2018 #18
K & R NurseJackie 😝 Wwcd Apr 2018 #30
+1000 JustAnotherGen Apr 2018 #77
Indeed Maxine would be a strong similar next-in-line for Pelosi. Wwcd Apr 2018 #83
Im an other voter Nevernose Apr 2018 #52
What have we done to appease swing voters Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #58
Backed off on gun control Nevernose Apr 2018 #71
She gets things done... S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2018 #6
Well to me her age had zero to do with it. You could be 21 Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #12
I'll trust the consensus of the caucus HopeAgain Apr 2018 #7
The canned responses to your question is off BoneyardDem Apr 2018 #8
What? Thought extremely simple...you either lean Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #10
When I hear we need new blood in relation to an older woman I get angry. emulatorloo Apr 2018 #13
No absolutely not....but haven't we advanced Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #19
Shes not costing us. She does a hell of a good job. Which is why the caucus keeps electing her emulatorloo Apr 2018 #23
Repukes running are scaring people with her visage! Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #25
Wth does that mean? I hope you're joking Wwcd Apr 2018 #31
Simple concept...we HAVE to win the House back. Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #35
Yes it is worth it. Seriously, you think Pukes intend to be kind to ANYONE but their own? Wwcd Apr 2018 #40
And how's that been working out so far? Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #48
They ran........ MyOwnPeace Apr 2018 #80
So what? They lie about and demonize every strong Democrat that scares them emulatorloo Apr 2018 #36
People who are scared/angry at the mention of Pelosi don't vote Democratic. betsuni Apr 2018 #54
I agree... that's how I feel when they say Bernie is too old to run for President a 2nd time InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #64
look at yourself in a mirror and ask, "Pelosi in or out" BoneyardDem Apr 2018 #17
Sorry not getting your drift. Easy for me yes. Please Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #20
ok, answer this question with a yes or no.....how old are you? BoneyardDem Apr 2018 #21
It doesn't matter Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #24
your deliberate obtuse-ness is not all that endearing BoneyardDem Apr 2018 #27
Lol....how old are you y or n? Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #38
it's a very simple question and a prime example of comprehension issues BoneyardDem Apr 2018 #82
Scaring people! Well duh, that's what they do with everyone who isn't a Repuke! Wwcd Apr 2018 #33
Think scaring with known quantity different than Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #41
The way you posed the question is out of synchronized with the responses. yardwork Apr 2018 #75
It's "yes" if you want one or the other and "no" if you want something else. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #55
Have Pelosi in the first year to show the ropes to her next Speaker. kimbutgar Apr 2018 #14
Ok you skipped a year but get your drift. I was Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #22
Corrected I was thinking election year not the actual year. kimbutgar Apr 2018 #29
No matter...like the concept Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #37
These times call for experience and proven ability GulfCoast66 Apr 2018 #15
This! Exactly this! Docreed2003 Apr 2018 #32
That! no text sprinkleeninow Apr 2018 #39
Pelosi defines leadership... we need a steady hand at the wheel. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #65
Its time for... Snackshack Apr 2018 #26
Ya that old campaign meme worked so well in 2016. Hello Trump! Wwcd Apr 2018 #34
Someone new as... Snackshack Apr 2018 #43
Thanks for your braveness! Hard to have reasoned Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #42
Thanks. Snackshack Apr 2018 #44
Yes...and why is it always a topic where there should Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #46
GOP always attack our strengths. That is why they go after Kamala Harris applegrove Apr 2018 #28
Totally agree! But there are degrees. Remember these Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #45
Nancy is likeable. If we picked another Dem. House leader they would applegrove Apr 2018 #47
Of course she is.. but I live now in a red state and Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #49
We will have to disagree. You do not throw away your political stars. applegrove Apr 2018 #50
Thanks for at least trying to perhaps seeing another Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #53
Absolutely! She is an awesome leader and has earned our support. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #59
Nancy is extremely likeable... don't understand why she has yet to run for President. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #56
Yeah she would...but trust me...being in Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #60
Common ground? How's that gonna work? InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #62
Well for Beto his approach is not to slam trump but Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #67
I hear ya... obviously, our message needs to be fine-tuned at the local level. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #69
Even if Pelosi stepped down tomorrow, they'd still use her. People don't read. They wouldn't know. betsuni Apr 2018 #61
Good point Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #63
I support higher than average turnover in regular membership and leadership Tiggeroshii Apr 2018 #51
Maybe you hit the nail on the head..she should Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #57
She would similarly win a vote in House if Dems regain control blake2012 Apr 2018 #66
True Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2018 #68
JFK talked of turning over the torch to a 'new generation' left-of-center2012 Apr 2018 #70
Pelosi's done a wonderful job. She's been outstanding. Who is coming up behind her? KPN Apr 2018 #72
How about Marsha Blackburn instead? LuvLoogie Apr 2018 #73
Nancy should stay duforsure Apr 2018 #74
Sorry but this is war JNelson6563 Apr 2018 #76
We are stronger & better with her than without her. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #78
She is opposed to impeachment Soxfan58 Apr 2018 #79
As anyone might have been five months ago... Orsino Apr 2018 #85
Why aren't we more worried about winning the majority first? TheDebbieDee Apr 2018 #81
Insignificant. She isn't running again. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #84
 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
30. K & R NurseJackie 😝
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 10:43 PM
Apr 2018

There is absolutely NO reason for Pel9si to leave her Speaker position.

Love & Admire her strength in the face of RW bs.

Hope she stays right there till the day SHE Chooses to retire.
She has well earned her place.

Isn't this the same bs messaging given to Sec Hillary Clinton?

Sounds like it was dregged up from an old 2015/16 campaign plan. It is oddly familiar...

Hmmmm...


JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
77. +1000
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 06:33 AM
Apr 2018

I would only accept Aunt Maxine Waters in her place.

You know why?

She would REALLY REALLY outrage 45/140

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
83. Indeed Maxine would be a strong similar next-in-line for Pelosi.
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 11:28 AM
Apr 2018

Whenever Pelosi chooses to leave the Speaker position. And I have faith that Pelosi wouldn't trust that position to just anybody.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
52. Im an other voter
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 11:44 PM
Apr 2018

My gut tells me it’s time for new blood.

My gut also tells me that anyone pissing off Republicans as much as Nancy Pelosi does must be doing something right. Besides which, I don’t feel like giving in to them. Getting rid of her to appease potential swing voters is precisely the type of thing that causes Dems to lose elections.

So that’s “other.” Because it’s both, either, and neither choice.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
71. Backed off on gun control
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 12:37 AM
Apr 2018

I’ve been noticing it especially in state level races. I personally know incumbent candidates that were asked by party officials to back off gun control, not because it would affect that person’s race, but because it might affect other people’s closer races.

My perception is that swing voters often want strength more than anything else. Not authoritarian style strength, but not backing down from a fight kind of strength.

S.E. TN Liberal

(508 posts)
6. She gets things done...
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:27 PM
Apr 2018

Her age should never be a factor.

She does well with all the various factions within the Democratic Party.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
12. Well to me her age had zero to do with it. You could be 21
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:39 PM
Apr 2018

And have inherent liabilities that benefit the opposition.


 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
8. The canned responses to your question is off
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:29 PM
Apr 2018

"Pelosi in or out"

then you give yes/no options for responses. It's not a yes/no question.

it's like when the waitress asks is you want coffee or tea and you respond "yes"...it's not a yes/no question.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
10. What? Thought extremely simple...you either lean
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:36 PM
Apr 2018

One way or the other.... What are the factors that make it grey vs. black and white?

emulatorloo

(44,124 posts)
13. When I hear we need new blood in relation to an older woman I get angry.
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:40 PM
Apr 2018

It plays in to the absolute worst sexist stereotype. That women who are beyond their reproductive years are “useless” and “disposable”.

I am sure you didn’t mean it that way, but those are the connotations.

I doubt I am the only person who feels that way.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
19. No absolutely not....but haven't we advanced
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:51 PM
Apr 2018

enough to look at something objectively? We are taking about a person ( young, old, whatever) and is that person helping or costing us?

Isn't that what totally equality is about?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
35. Simple concept...we HAVE to win the House back.
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 11:03 PM
Apr 2018

Period paragraph. Mf'ing repukes are preparing ads to use her to fuel their campaign. We as reasoned Democrats need to look at that fact and say...is the loyalty to one perfect Democrat worth adding to the possibility we will not take back the House?

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
40. Yes it is worth it. Seriously, you think Pukes intend to be kind to ANYONE but their own?
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 11:09 PM
Apr 2018

They don't care about your past history. They'll make shit up if they have to. Have you forgotten what they did in 2016?

She is the smartest player there is for the position she holds.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
80. They ran........
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 08:01 AM
Apr 2018

"horror" pics of Pelosi during the special Connor Lamb race in Deep Red sw. PA congressional race, showing Congressman Lamb as being Pelosi's "buddy."

Lamb won the special election.

The electorate voted for the government they want, not against any "bogey man."

emulatorloo

(44,124 posts)
36. So what? They lie about and demonize every strong Democrat that scares them
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 11:04 PM
Apr 2018

If not Pelosi it will be someone else.

betsuni

(25,524 posts)
54. People who are scared/angry at the mention of Pelosi don't vote Democratic.
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 11:52 PM
Apr 2018

They're brainwashed and drool on command at cartoonish liberal/centrist-establishment (depending on the target of the propaganda) villains. Even if every single Democrat was a white male populist who exclusively speaks about economic insecurity, they'd come up with something else, someone else to scare people with. They'll never vote for Democrats in large numbers.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
64. I agree... that's how I feel when they say Bernie is too old to run for President a 2nd time
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 12:10 AM
Apr 2018

after an incredible showing. He has energy beyond those HALF his age.

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
17. look at yourself in a mirror and ask, "Pelosi in or out"
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:47 PM
Apr 2018

and then you answer "yes" (or "no&quot . How is that an appropriate response to the question?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
24. It doesn't matter
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 10:16 PM
Apr 2018

I could be older than she is..you either think she should be leader or not. No matter your age it's a simple y or n. Imho. All I know is repukes scaring people, referencing her. Why start like that?
 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
27. your deliberate obtuse-ness is not all that endearing
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 10:27 PM
Apr 2018

the question had nothing to do with Pelosi.

you could not answer the question with a yes or no. It was that simple, and you went off on some odd tangent. Your poll question is worded poorly.

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
82. it's a very simple question and a prime example of comprehension issues
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 10:33 AM
Apr 2018

you so glaringly point out. Thank you.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
33. Scaring people! Well duh, that's what they do with everyone who isn't a Repuke!
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 10:50 PM
Apr 2018

That's what Pukes do. To everyone but their own kind.
Pelosi isn't the problem. Putin's nazi Repukes are the problem.

See?

kimbutgar

(21,148 posts)
14. Have Pelosi in the first year to show the ropes to her next Speaker.
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:43 PM
Apr 2018

Last edited Tue Apr 17, 2018, 10:30 PM - Edit history (1)

She knows so much, we need someone experienced in house procedures to stop twitler in 2019. Then pass the baton in 2020 to a new house leader paving the way for a Democratic President.

Looking beyond what is in front of you is a better choice, Pelosi is strategic for now in a chess move.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
22. Ok you skipped a year but get your drift. I was
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:59 PM
Apr 2018

kind of more worried about campaign season and heard GOP gearing up negativity scaring people with Pelosi. Why not start fresh?

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
15. These times call for experience and proven ability
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:43 PM
Apr 2018

If, and that is a bigger if than many here want to admit, we win the House then the next 2 years will not be time for on the job training.

I am ready for new leadership. But not at our expense.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
34. Ya that old campaign meme worked so well in 2016. Hello Trump!
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 11:03 PM
Apr 2018

Time for someone new, fresh face, ...

No thanks. Dems have no reason to weaken itself by bringing in a "fresh face" so the Repukes can have him for a snack.
Have you ever watched a cat play with a fresh caught mouse?

Pelosi knows all those mangey old GOP cats & she plays that game as good as they do.

Too bad so many lazy people never found time last midterm to give Pelosi & our President an assist.

VOTE DEM
STOP LETTING REPUBLICANS WIN!

Its simple.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
43. Someone new as...
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 11:13 PM
Apr 2018

Speaker. I did not say someone new to congress. There are plenty of Democratic Representatives that have been in congress for years and have experience at the job that could be Speaker.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
42. Thanks for your braveness! Hard to have reasoned
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 11:13 PM
Apr 2018

Pros and cons discussion when all u get is dogmatic noes.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
44. Thanks.
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 11:21 PM
Apr 2018

Reason does seem to get kicked to the curb on some of these topics. There is definitely an entrenched dogmatic/emotional view that continuously gets applied to certain discussions.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
46. Yes...and why is it always a topic where there should
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 11:24 PM
Apr 2018

Be reasoned debate about how our party should move forward?

applegrove

(118,658 posts)
28. GOP always attack our strengths. That is why they go after Kamala Harris
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 10:28 PM
Apr 2018

Last edited Wed Apr 18, 2018, 06:06 PM - Edit history (1)

and Nancy Pelosi but not Tim Kaine. Don't let the GOP choose who leads us.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
45. Totally agree! But there are degrees. Remember these
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 11:22 PM
Apr 2018

People don't read....it has taken the puppetmasters years and years to create a mass hatred of Pelosi...the voters don't even know why they are supposed to hate her..they just do. Why not take that away ? It is SO important this time..

applegrove

(118,658 posts)
47. Nancy is likeable. If we picked another Dem. House leader they would
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 11:26 PM
Apr 2018

just slather them with insults. Nancy is great. There is a reason why she has lasted so long in politics. She is very likeable in a way Hillary was not. Don't fall for the bs.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
49. Of course she is.. but I live now in a red state and
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 11:34 PM
Apr 2018

Having her as a nemesis is worth millions in campaign donations...it's like a gimme.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
56. Nancy is extremely likeable... don't understand why she has yet to run for President.
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 11:57 PM
Apr 2018

Maybe she will one day... she'd be awesome.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
60. Yeah she would...but trust me...being in
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 12:04 AM
Apr 2018

The heart of trump country...just invoking her name in a town hall here would get 1000 votes against her. Beto has it right...not telling these people they are crazy...but looking for common ground

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
67. Well for Beto his approach is not to slam trump but
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 12:17 AM
Apr 2018

to appeal to values..."We in Texas are low compared to other states with our education system...why is that? What happened to us? Why can't we be better? We can do anything...we always have..". That type of approach. The only negative thing I heard him say was that Cruz had visited all counties in Iowa. Not Texas...like appealing to their love of state.

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
51. I support higher than average turnover in regular membership and leadership
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 11:37 PM
Apr 2018

So yeah, I think it was time for her to hand over the torch years ago.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
57. Maybe you hit the nail on the head..she should
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 11:57 PM
Apr 2018

See a change in leadership as what is needed for the good of the party..because everyone loves her and would never disrespect her by ousting her.

imho we are in dire need of new blood because what we are doing is not working as well as it could. We are the party of honor and decency and caring about the lesser among us...and we have no voice at this moment in time.

We have the most fertile ground for slamming this imbecile to the ground...yet we have no ads..no cohesive campaign and we let them flood the airways and the dumber populace soaks it in like sponges.

KPN

(15,645 posts)
72. Pelosi's done a wonderful job. She's been outstanding. Who is coming up behind her?
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 12:59 AM
Apr 2018

When she or he does, it will happen as it should. That time is approaching.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
74. Nancy should stay
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 06:14 AM
Apr 2018

Right now, especially when so much is at stake with our Democracy, we need her experience to prevent being taken to the cleaners from lack of knowledge, and that others simply don't have at this time. She also needs to be more progressive, and have plans when the House flips in place what to get done ASAP. She needs to make them pay for what they've done to this country and its people.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
76. Sorry but this is war
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 06:32 AM
Apr 2018

and we need our most experienced Generals leading the battle. Plus I just can't bring myself to let the GOP pick our leadership.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
85. As anyone might have been five months ago...
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 12:18 PM
Apr 2018

...and as anyone still might be without articles of impeachment in hand.

With Mueller knuckles-deep in Trump's rectum, crimes are coming to light, but without Congressional majorities to make the threat of impeachment real, why blab about such plans now?

It's perfectly defensible to avoid the question, and to have taken it off the table last year. I would have preferred a wait-and-see myself, but no, I don't expect the prospective Speaker to brand the Dem '18 campaign with endless impeachment hearings. Particularly not with Republicans controlling all hearings.

We'll get to it.

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