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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNo blind poll here but simple.. Pelosi in or out?
55 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited | |
Yes..love her but time for new blood | |
20 (36%) |
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No, love her, stay the course | |
33 (60%) |
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Other | |
2 (4%) |
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Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... the person thinks it's a stupid poll, perhaps.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Uh-huh. Sure. Your ideas are being suppressed.
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)There is absolutely NO reason for Pel9si to leave her Speaker position.
Love & Admire her strength in the face of RW bs.
Hope she stays right there till the day SHE Chooses to retire.
She has well earned her place.
Isn't this the same bs messaging given to Sec Hillary Clinton?
Sounds like it was dregged up from an old 2015/16 campaign plan. It is oddly familiar...
Hmmmm...
JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)I would only accept Aunt Maxine Waters in her place.
You know why?
She would REALLY REALLY outrage 45/140
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)Whenever Pelosi chooses to leave the Speaker position. And I have faith that Pelosi wouldn't trust that position to just anybody.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)My gut tells me its time for new blood.
My gut also tells me that anyone pissing off Republicans as much as Nancy Pelosi does must be doing something right. Besides which, I dont feel like giving in to them. Getting rid of her to appease potential swing voters is precisely the type of thing that causes Dems to lose elections.
So thats other. Because its both, either, and neither choice.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)That didn't work out ?
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Ive been noticing it especially in state level races. I personally know incumbent candidates that were asked by party officials to back off gun control, not because it would affect that persons race, but because it might affect other peoples closer races.
My perception is that swing voters often want strength more than anything else. Not authoritarian style strength, but not backing down from a fight kind of strength.
S.E. TN Liberal
(508 posts)Her age should never be a factor.
She does well with all the various factions within the Democratic Party.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)And have inherent liabilities that benefit the opposition.
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)I dont get a vote on this.
BoneyardDem
(1,202 posts)"Pelosi in or out"
then you give yes/no options for responses. It's not a yes/no question.
it's like when the waitress asks is you want coffee or tea and you respond "yes"...it's not a yes/no question.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)One way or the other.... What are the factors that make it grey vs. black and white?
emulatorloo
(44,124 posts)It plays in to the absolute worst sexist stereotype. That women who are beyond their reproductive years are useless and disposable.
I am sure you didnt mean it that way, but those are the connotations.
I doubt I am the only person who feels that way.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)enough to look at something objectively? We are taking about a person ( young, old, whatever) and is that person helping or costing us?
Isn't that what totally equality is about?
emulatorloo
(44,124 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Wwcd
(6,288 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Period paragraph. Mf'ing repukes are preparing ads to use her to fuel their campaign. We as reasoned Democrats need to look at that fact and say...is the loyalty to one perfect Democrat worth adding to the possibility we will not take back the House?
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)They don't care about your past history. They'll make shit up if they have to. Have you forgotten what they did in 2016?
She is the smartest player there is for the position she holds.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)"horror" pics of Pelosi during the special Connor Lamb race in Deep Red sw. PA congressional race, showing Congressman Lamb as being Pelosi's "buddy."
Lamb won the special election.
The electorate voted for the government they want, not against any "bogey man."
emulatorloo
(44,124 posts)If not Pelosi it will be someone else.
betsuni
(25,524 posts)They're brainwashed and drool on command at cartoonish liberal/centrist-establishment (depending on the target of the propaganda) villains. Even if every single Democrat was a white male populist who exclusively speaks about economic insecurity, they'd come up with something else, someone else to scare people with. They'll never vote for Democrats in large numbers.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)after an incredible showing. He has energy beyond those HALF his age.
BoneyardDem
(1,202 posts)and then you answer "yes" (or "no" . How is that an appropriate response to the question?
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Explain
BoneyardDem
(1,202 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)I could be older than she is..you either think she should be leader or not. No matter your age it's a simple y or n. Imho. All I know is repukes scaring people, referencing her. Why start like that?
BoneyardDem
(1,202 posts)the question had nothing to do with Pelosi.
you could not answer the question with a yes or no. It was that simple, and you went off on some odd tangent. Your poll question is worded poorly.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)BoneyardDem
(1,202 posts)you so glaringly point out. Thank you.
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)That's what Pukes do. To everyone but their own kind.
Pelosi isn't the problem. Putin's nazi Repukes are the problem.
See?
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Unknown..
Remember these people fo not read
yardwork
(61,608 posts)Look at it again.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)kimbutgar
(21,148 posts)Last edited Tue Apr 17, 2018, 10:30 PM - Edit history (1)
She knows so much, we need someone experienced in house procedures to stop twitler in 2019. Then pass the baton in 2020 to a new house leader paving the way for a Democratic President.
Looking beyond what is in front of you is a better choice, Pelosi is strategic for now in a chess move.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)kind of more worried about campaign season and heard GOP gearing up negativity scaring people with Pelosi. Why not start fresh?
kimbutgar
(21,148 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)If, and that is a bigger if than many here want to admit, we win the House then the next 2 years will not be time for on the job training.
I am ready for new leadership. But not at our expense.
Docreed2003
(16,859 posts)sprinkleeninow
(20,248 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Snackshack
(2,541 posts)someone new.
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)Time for someone new, fresh face, ...
No thanks. Dems have no reason to weaken itself by bringing in a "fresh face" so the Repukes can have him for a snack.
Have you ever watched a cat play with a fresh caught mouse?
Pelosi knows all those mangey old GOP cats & she plays that game as good as they do.
Too bad so many lazy people never found time last midterm to give Pelosi & our President an assist.
VOTE DEM
STOP LETTING REPUBLICANS WIN!
Its simple.
Snackshack
(2,541 posts)Speaker. I did not say someone new to congress. There are plenty of Democratic Representatives that have been in congress for years and have experience at the job that could be Speaker.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Pros and cons discussion when all u get is dogmatic noes.
Snackshack
(2,541 posts)Reason does seem to get kicked to the curb on some of these topics. There is definitely an entrenched dogmatic/emotional view that continuously gets applied to certain discussions.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Be reasoned debate about how our party should move forward?
applegrove
(118,658 posts)Last edited Wed Apr 18, 2018, 06:06 PM - Edit history (1)
and Nancy Pelosi but not Tim Kaine. Don't let the GOP choose who leads us.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)People don't read....it has taken the puppetmasters years and years to create a mass hatred of Pelosi...the voters don't even know why they are supposed to hate her..they just do. Why not take that away ? It is SO important this time..
applegrove
(118,658 posts)just slather them with insults. Nancy is great. There is a reason why she has lasted so long in politics. She is very likeable in a way Hillary was not. Don't fall for the bs.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Having her as a nemesis is worth millions in campaign donations...it's like a gimme.
applegrove
(118,658 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Side.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Maybe she will one day... she'd be awesome.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)The heart of trump country...just invoking her name in a town hall here would get 1000 votes against her. Beto has it right...not telling these people they are crazy...but looking for common ground
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)to appeal to values..."We in Texas are low compared to other states with our education system...why is that? What happened to us? Why can't we be better? We can do anything...we always have..". That type of approach. The only negative thing I heard him say was that Cruz had visited all counties in Iowa. Not Texas...like appealing to their love of state.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)betsuni
(25,524 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)So yeah, I think it was time for her to hand over the torch years ago.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)See a change in leadership as what is needed for the good of the party..because everyone loves her and would never disrespect her by ousting her.
imho we are in dire need of new blood because what we are doing is not working as well as it could. We are the party of honor and decency and caring about the lesser among us...and we have no voice at this moment in time.
We have the most fertile ground for slamming this imbecile to the ground...yet we have no ads..no cohesive campaign and we let them flood the airways and the dumber populace soaks it in like sponges.
blake2012
(1,294 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)It's time.
KPN
(15,645 posts)When she or he does, it will happen as it should. That time is approaching.
LuvLoogie
(7,003 posts)I think she would appeal to Texans.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)Right now, especially when so much is at stake with our Democracy, we need her experience to prevent being taken to the cleaners from lack of knowledge, and that others simply don't have at this time. She also needs to be more progressive, and have plans when the House flips in place what to get done ASAP. She needs to make them pay for what they've done to this country and its people.
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)and we need our most experienced Generals leading the battle. Plus I just can't bring myself to let the GOP pick our leadership.
TheSmarterDog
(794 posts)Soxfan58
(3,479 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)...and as anyone still might be without articles of impeachment in hand.
With Mueller knuckles-deep in Trump's rectum, crimes are coming to light, but without Congressional majorities to make the threat of impeachment real, why blab about such plans now?
It's perfectly defensible to avoid the question, and to have taken it off the table last year. I would have preferred a wait-and-see myself, but no, I don't expect the prospective Speaker to brand the Dem '18 campaign with endless impeachment hearings. Particularly not with Republicans controlling all hearings.
We'll get to it.