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DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 10:58 PM Apr 2018

About Barbara Bush

Normally I do not consider the wives or children of political enemies fair game. As we speak, Melania Trump is probably in her own private hell realizing that her husband really was worse than most people thought. However, for Babs Bush , I need to make an exception, because she was knee deep in the gore her husband and her sons did. She was always there to paint opponents of her husband in the worst way, and displayed the sort of "let them eat cake" arrogance to those they hurt. Residents of New rleans can still remember the arrogance which she showed them, as if they should be grateful. Heaven knows that Jeb will wait til te stink of Trump has abated, so he can try to prove to everyone that he was the "smart one"

Sorry Babs, I wish you no ill will, but if there is justice in the hereafter, you do have a bit to account for.

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About Barbara Bush (Original Post) DonCoquixote Apr 2018 OP
So true... not a good person. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #1
She threw some elbows BeyondGeography Apr 2018 #2
I didn't know she said that about Geraldine Ferraro MustLoveBeagles Apr 2018 #3
She did and apologized BeyondGeography Apr 2018 #4
Thanks for the link MustLoveBeagles Apr 2018 #9
True BeyondGeography Apr 2018 #12
I agree MustLoveBeagles Apr 2018 #19
According to the BBC obit she did had some redeeming qualities. EX500rider Apr 2018 #5
Apparently she was an evil one dimensional character to some around here. Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #7
Or maybe a three-dimensional evil character. LanternWaste Apr 2018 #16
She had her good and bad points MustLoveBeagles Apr 2018 #10
There's eulogizing, and then there's pure bullshit. milestogo Apr 2018 #11
Was the BBC making stuff up? EX500rider Apr 2018 #15
So did King Leopold II. LanternWaste Apr 2018 #17
Yes, and Barbara killed millions in the Congo!!! EX500rider Apr 2018 #18
Too soon DownFromTheMountain Apr 2018 #6
Meh. Wealthy racist who raised a war criminal. Whatever n/t leftstreet Apr 2018 #8
i think Melania is far worse than Barbara Bush . Melania pushed the Birther shit . JI7 Apr 2018 #13
Yeah, Melania is almost as bad a narcissist as Donald. Ilsa Apr 2018 #20
She Looked Like Aunt Bea, But I Understand She Was Quite A Nasty Woman ChoppinBroccoli Apr 2018 #14
Agreed with all but 2 points: 1- "Melania in her own private hell" uh no more like the Queen of Hell UTUSN Apr 2018 #21

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
2. She threw some elbows
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 11:10 PM
Apr 2018

i.e. the "rhymes with" snark about Geraldine Ferraro. I doubt she had any perspective at all about her occasional flourishes of "personality" would have played if she wasn't a gray-haired WASP patrician. One needn't wonder how Michelle Obama would have been treated had she conducted herself similarly.

MustLoveBeagles

(11,611 posts)
9. Thanks for the link
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 11:50 PM
Apr 2018

I followed that election season even though I was 12 at the time. I must have missed this incident or simply forgot it. At least she apologized. Nowadays most Republicans would refuse to apologize and double down on the insults.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
12. True
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 12:19 AM
Apr 2018

I just thought at the time and still do that it was a very retrograde thing to say, given the historic nature of Ferraro's candidacy. Rather at odds with the "champion of women" narrative that we'll see in the obits.

There is much worse in American public life than Mrs. Bush, but easy comps, as they say.

MustLoveBeagles

(11,611 posts)
19. I agree
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 10:05 PM
Apr 2018

She shouldn't have it at all. I watched the vice-presidential debate with my grandpa and thought that Bush Sr. was very condescending towards her. I mentioned this to him and he agreed.

EX500rider

(10,848 posts)
5. According to the BBC obit she did had some redeeming qualities.
Tue Apr 17, 2018, 11:36 PM
Apr 2018
A long-time campaigner for social justice, she spoke out against racial segregation and threw her weight behind the drive to eradicate illiteracy in America.
She became aware of segregation in the South after driving across America with two African-American women in order to reach a holiday home in Maine.
She discovered, to her horror, that her two companions were not allowed to sleep or eat in the same hotels and restaurants as white people.
For the rest of her life she spoke out against racial bigotry, often finding herself in conflict with right wingers in the Republican Party.

As the wife of the vice president, Barbara Bush stepped up her campaign to improve adult and child literacy, putting her weight behind organisations working in the field.

Not all her beliefs were shared by her husband. Her support for gun control elicited strong reaction from his supporters in the powerful National Rifle Association.
And she toned down her relatively pro-choice views on abortion to avoid clashes with powerful groups within the party which might have threatened the stability of her husband's presidency.
However, she returned to the subject of abortion during the 1992 campaign, stating her belief that it was a private matter and something on which the Republican Party should not take a position.

Asked in 2010 about former Alaska Governor and vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, Mrs Bush was damning.
'I sat next to her once, thought she was beautiful,' she told an interviewer before adding 'I think she's very happy in Alaska, and I hope she'll stay there."
In 2013, she joked on NBC that the country had probably "had enough Bushes" but soon had to swallow her words when another son, Jeb Bush, announced he too would run for the Presidency.


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-12846090
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
16. Or maybe a three-dimensional evil character.
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 04:37 PM
Apr 2018

Or maybe a three-dimensional evil character, regardless of the irrelevance of whether they're around here or the petulance of your sadness.

Next chapter, the rehabilitation of King Leopold II... he built public works and instituted child labor laws (in addition to the other "fucking sad" stuff he did that were we to mention it, would paint us as "one-dimensional" by an ironically cyclopean perspective... ).

MustLoveBeagles

(11,611 posts)
10. She had her good and bad points
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 12:01 AM
Apr 2018

She took some brave stances considering the party she was apart of. I agreed with her on some things and she could be funny at times. Other times she could be ruthless and I cringed when she made those idiotic remarks in the Hurricane Katrina aftermath. Overall she was a complex person. Some people are going to be very critical of her even now. That's just their opinion. I have no desire to dance on her grave. I hope she passed peacefully surrounded by her friends and family.

EX500rider

(10,848 posts)
18. Yes, and Barbara killed millions in the Congo!!!
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 05:26 PM
Apr 2018

...oh wait, that was Leopold...easy to get those two mixed up, am I right?
lol

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
20. Yeah, Melania is almost as bad a narcissist as Donald.
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 10:11 PM
Apr 2018

Melania does what suits her, what serves her interests, no matter how hurtful or immoral or unethical it could be.

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
14. She Looked Like Aunt Bea, But I Understand She Was Quite A Nasty Woman
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 12:33 AM
Apr 2018

I've heard stories of her being rude to people she perceived as enemies, and was even mean to her own children. I generally try not to trample on the graves of the recently deceased, but when I see all the people fawning over her today, all I could think about was the fact that she was generally known to be a not-very-nice person.

UTUSN

(70,695 posts)
21. Agreed with all but 2 points: 1- "Melania in her own private hell" uh no more like the Queen of Hell
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 10:22 PM
Apr 2018

2- "Babs, wish you no ill will" - nope. (Double negative = a positive.) Other than those, love the O.P.




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