It's very good and really interesting. What China and India have wrought is now a worldwide problem.

That's when the emphasis is placed only on our reproductive ability, and also we become like "sexual property" of not just the romantic partner, but all other stray men.

Things are going to get ugly there.

Is a big reason this imbalance happened.

Not in the sense that women are sex objects, but in the sense that a married daughter becomes a member of someone else’s family.

Especially under a (reformed) one-child policy, who’s going to take care of you when you’re old? In an improvised family that might have 13 kids (like my grandparents generation in the US), if 12 of those kids are female, again: who’s going to take care of you when you’re old?

Then there’s the concept of kyriarchy, which is an excellent way of selling the negatives of patriarchy. With these traditional attitudes towards marriage, men suffer, too, just in a different way.

Paolo Freire teaches us that oppression is bad for the oppressor, too, and that the oppressor frequently doesn’t even realize they’re in power.

With their shitty backward beliefs.

The guys who don't have backwards mentality should be ok.

But those who do would be better off not having anymore kids and continuing with these shitty traditions.

... women"

Seriously. I always thought it would be the japanese who'd invent the first sexbots, but turns out the chinese are the ones leading that field of research now.

That would be a good thing.

But it was localized - Not involving billions.

And it was temporary - the women soon caught up as the frontier was tamed, and men brought their families in.

Few women, lots of men. There was also lots of violence.

Emigration to China from SE Asia may be attractive.

that gay people don't exist.

We are not statistically important. What really matters is that heterosexual males don't have enough choices.

the tag. Because I give a shit about whether I MATTER.

But, just in case...

My gut reaction was to be negative, but I checked myself for once. Glad to see I turned out to be correct.

Too many men believe they have the god-given right to sexually harass or assault any female they choose as it is. Certainly not all men, but enough to make things very uncomfortable if you are a female doing something as mundane as walking down the street, shopping, or if you're a little girl playing in your own yard. Ask any female of any age if she's been sexually harassed. Ask her how young she was when she remembers first being sexually harassed or assaulted. I remember being sexually harassed by a group of grown men when I was 7. This is a "normal" occurrence if you are female. What girls go through in India is what all females go through, but taken to the 10th or higher power. I'm sick of it.

Sounds like a star trek episode. Wonder what Kirk and Bones would do? Ship in women from another planet with the opposite problem??? All women, not enough men to keep the dna fresh????

Kill spiders? Open jars? Take out the trash? Lift heavy objects?????

Of a British-Pakistani man, a doctor, who had an interest in magic, ever since a godfather-type to him and the family came from India to visit him when he was a child and performed some of the more common "miracles" that beggars perform. He took a sabbatical and went to India to learn them, and in his travels, he came across, "medical doctors," who went from village to village with an X-Ray machine so pregnant women could see what sex their baby was. More often than not, if it was female (or appeared female), the "doctors" would perform a risky abortion at the mother's request. Since most of these women and their husbands were poor, they couldn't afford any kind of dowry for a future husband. And this was just one pair. He correctly guessed that it would soon lead to a shortage of women.

He did this, in the 90s I believe, which was when I was dating a woman of Indian heritage (American, parents were immigrants). She had recently gone to India to visit family, and one day, a parade of men came through her aunt's house where she was staying, who would just look at her and then leave. She couldn't figure out what was going on but finally realized her aunts were worried that since she was in her early twenties, her marriageability was coming to an end so they were trying to set her up. She's been married to an American and has a PhD in psychology probably since a few years after we broke up. I know it's anecdotal, but if men went from having their pick to not being able to find anyone in around 20 years, that's quite amazing.

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going to work in their favor. Unfortunately, I think a lot of women in those countries are going to suffer before the men wake up and learn to treat them like human beings.

there was usually a war that happened that took care of that.

wars have kept the male population in check in the past.
We obviously don't need more wars, we need more education.

with their limits of 1 child per couple and reported infanticide (probably mostly in rural areas) of baby girls due to the belief in the value of the boys (probably because of the war thing). China hasn't been involved in a war for decades (not counting some support of North Vietnam and probably North Korea).

At marriage, the bride's family have to pay the groom's family. So, it was cheaper to have boys if a family didn't have much.

had/have dowries (the woman's family - or more specifically, the woman's father provided money, livestock, etc for the union of his daughter).

It was precisely what I was thinking.

Not sure that a nuclear power will allow itself to be taken over by an adversary.

Just as well, we would have had a hell of a time beating the 150+ million years dinasaurs roamed the Earth, anyway.

The Earth will heal and move on without us.

You can marry up to 4 people, but one is "main" one. There is no shortage of love on Nuala.

https://www.amazon.com/2-Fire-Sanctuary-Chronicles-Nuala/dp/1522694307

Why are we limited to only one love?

No one has ever considered "different" families......

human trafficking - not always for sex

(comment from a blog) --- Sons are a huge business. Apparently you have to pay a large dowry if you have a daughter, so it is cheaper to buy a stolen boy, raise him with the daughter, have them marry, and have grandkids to take care of you when you are old.

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This goes against the law of supply and demand.

Dowry?

If there is a shortage of women to marry, then they should require a premium price to woo rather than a premium price to get rid of.

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Father rescues son from human traffickers after bumping into them at shopping mall nine months later

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/father-rescues-son-kidnapper-chen-traffickers-bumping-into-mall-a8061636.html

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Birth Controlled: China’s Stolen Children Reviewed

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/juli-weiner/birth-controlled-emchinas_b_112530.html

which is paid to the bride's family (and a broker).

and the war doesn't end until it burns off the excess male population. Let's hope history doesn't repeat itself.

in the mid-19th century, there was devastating flooding of the Yangtze River, and resulting years of famine. As a result of having more mouths than they could feed, a lot of families engaged in female infanticide (because then, as now, in China, girls were seen as being worth less). This resulted in a regional gender imbalance in that generation of about 25% more men than women; one of the arguable results of that surplus of men was the Nien Rebellion in Northern China.

Send them to war...and thin out those numbers....That's what scares me.

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