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pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 06:20 PM Apr 2018

The future of the country could depend on a Brooklyn Democrat named Simcha Felder.

He could be the one Democratic vote refusing to go along with A.G. Schneiderman's call to change NY State law to allow a state prosecution if the President pardons someone on Federal charges.

He's a Democrat who's been caucusing with the Republicans, and the State Senate Democrats only have a 1 vote margin including him.

https://bklyner.com/felder-democratic-senate-majority/

If Felder, a Democrat who has been voting with the Republicans since 2012, returns to voting with the Democrats, then the party can have the numerical majority (32-31) after winning both Senate seats up for special elections and get a number of bills, typically opposed by republicans, passed.

“I have to have a compelling reason to leave [the Republicans]… I would consider it,” Felder told the NY Post.

He then enlightened us all in an interview with City & State on where he stands on a number of issues:

For early voting, “if and only if” it comes with a requirement for voter identification.
For keeping family court open 24/7.
Against closing the LLC loophole
Mixed feelings on DREAM
10 day waiting period for firearms and tougher rent regulations and ending vacancy decontrol – “I don’t want to answer that.”



https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/04/nyregion/new-york-state-senate-democrats.html

The rival Democratic factions had agreed last November to reunite this month, following two special elections that would bring the total number of Democrats in the 63-member chamber to 32 — the bare minimum for a majority.

But one of those senators, Simcha Felder, a Brooklyn Democrat, has continued to caucus with Republicans.

Without Mr. Felder, who recently held up the state budget for concessions on how yeshivas are overseen by the state, the new Democratic coalition would still be one vote short of a majority. In an interview, Mr. Felder reiterated that he has no loyalty to either party, but rather is looking for the best deal for his district, which includes a large population of Orthodox Jews.

“I don’t feel obligated to remain with the Republicans, or obligated to join the Democrats,” he said. “I’m loyal to God, my wife and my constituents, and New Yorkers.”
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Me.

(35,454 posts)
3. What Would Be Better Would Be To Get Him Out
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 06:52 PM
Apr 2018

That entire independent DEm situation has been a disgrace and hobbled the state with Con values.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
9. I wonder whether democrats can find a true democrat in his district to primary him.
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 09:48 PM
Apr 2018

The voters in his district voted in a DEMOCRAT, my guess is that is what they want. Unfortunately, he can block efforts to redistrict him out, so someone from his district have to beat him.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
10. Well His District Is Borough Park
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 10:01 PM
Apr 2018

is a very Jewish area of Brooklyn and I don't think they would vote him out as the things he says he's for are important to the Orthodox community. What will bring change is as younger and more progressive people move in. Something I think he fears as he's seeking to stop decontrolling of rent.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
11. Another post says that he has a primary challenger.
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 10:09 PM
Apr 2018

In NYC rent decontrol means yuppification, which in this case, may not be a bad thing.

His primary challenger appears to be active in the community and dialed into it, maybe that will help the challenger.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
12. Precisely
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 10:16 PM
Apr 2018

He also wants an ends to the raising of stabilized rents if I'm reading his view on that correctly. Which, by the way, would be fine with me but I don't expect it as the landlord lobby is pretty strong. A challenger would be wonderful. And yes, yuppification may end up being a factor just as it is now in Williamsburg.

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
4. Lets be clear on an important point...
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 06:58 PM
Apr 2018

Simcha Felder is not a Republican in sheep’s clothing. He organizes with the Republicans because he gets goodies for his district. If it’s 31-31 and he thinks the Democrats are likely to take the Senate outright in a wave election, he’ll shift sides. Most of the issues addressed in Albany are not debated along ideological lines.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
5. Felder's vote is single-handedly keeping control with the Republicans right now.
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 07:02 PM
Apr 2018

The Kushners are closely connected with Orthodox Jewish groups in Brooklyn, so it's likely that Felder will be Trump friendly.

And there is a real Democrat who's running against him in the primary in September, Blake Morris.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210512097

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
13. Very little of NY politics is "Trump Friendly"
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 11:18 PM
Apr 2018

In fact, the State Party just endorsed a GOV candidate who's notably NOT Trump friendly...because they know Trump friendly will lose.

As for Blake Morris? Get back to me when he wins the nomination. I won't be laying awake at night waiting.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
14. Simcha Felder's district is very Trump friendly.
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 11:31 PM
Apr 2018

Last edited Thu Apr 19, 2018, 01:21 AM - Edit history (3)


For the last four years, New York Democrats have had to contend with an only-in-Albany riddle: In a 63-member State Senate with slightly more Democrats than there are Republicans, how do the Republicans manage to hold a majority?

The answer often lies with one rogue Democrat: Senator Simcha Felder, who votes with the Republicans and whose heavily Democratic, overwhelmingly Orthodox Jewish district in Brooklyn voted just as overwhelmingly for President-elect Donald J. Trump.

To the Democrats’ endless frustration, Mr. Felder has never once caucused with members of his own party, defecting to the other side of the aisle within days of being elected in 2012.


https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/nyregion/simcha-felder-rogue-democratic-senator-will-remain-loyal-to-gop.html


And there are some other parts of NY that are Trump friendly, for example, Kushner's orthodox Jewish connections in the area.

Oddly enough, one of the men named in the article below, Rotem Rosen, just appeared in photos with Michael Cohen, Jerry Rotanda, and others, sitting outside and smoking cigars during Cohen's hearing.


https://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/11/27/the-odd-chabad-connection-between-putin-and-trump/

bullimiami

(13,094 posts)
7. To be clear here. My understanding of NY Law is that a crime that is acquitted in Federal Court
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 07:32 PM
Apr 2018

is considered as double jeopardy wrt being tried in NY State court.

The change in the law would make it possible to retry the same crime at the state level which is the law in many states.

To me this seems if Trump shuts down prosecutions before they are adjudicated it has no effect on NY ability to prosecute the crime.

Maybe someone who knows better will correct me.
I am not a lawyer or have any authority on the subject save the "internets".

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
8. I think you're right. If he just shut down an investigation and didn't pardon,
Wed Apr 18, 2018, 08:12 PM
Apr 2018

then NY state could still prosecute.

But I doubt he'd do that.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
16. Not really. A.G. Schneiderman wants NY State to pass a law that would allow
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 12:24 AM
Apr 2018

NY to prosecute Manafort, Cohen, and others if Trump pardons them. Which is all too likely.

Only one vote stands between Schneiderman and that law getting passed, and that vote belongs to the fake-Democrat, Felder. He ran as a Democrat but tossed his support to the Republican leader in the State Senate.

 

blake2012

(1,294 posts)
17. If he can charge them today on state criminal charges, no new NY law needed
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 12:27 AM
Apr 2018

If he wants a law that allows NY to charge Trump and crime buddies on federal stuff after anpardon, good luck on constitutional challenges.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
18. NY has a double jeopardy law that won't allow both Federal and state prosecutions.
Thu Apr 19, 2018, 12:36 AM
Apr 2018

In many other states -- those that have a "separate sovereign" doctrine -- people can be prosecuted for the same crimes in Federal and state courts. But NY state has a double jeopardy law that is a barrier. It needs to be changed.

All Schneiderman wants to do is change NY state law to close a loophole, and not let people pardoned under Federal prosecutions to escape NY prosecution.


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/20/myths-of-the-criminal-justice-system_n_879768.html

Finally, there is the “separate sovereigns” exception to double jeopardy. This allows a defendant to be tried, convicted and sentenced for the same crime in both state and federal court. The most well-known example of the separate sovereigns exception is when the Los Angeles police officers who beat Rodney King were acquitted in state court, then convicted in federal court of violating King’s civil rights.

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