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turbinetree

(24,703 posts) Fri Apr 20, 2018, 06:42 AM Apr 2018

US grain ships diverted at sea hours after China imposes grain tariff

Ships laden with more than 1.2m tonnes of US sorghum bound for China may have no where to go amid the ongoing trade tensions between Beijing and Washington.

Twenty ships carrying more than $216m worth of sorghum were at sea on Friday, according to Reuters, but least five of them had changed course within hours of China’s announcement this week that it would place stiff tariffs on the grain.

On Tuesday, Beijing said US importers had been dumping the grain, used for animal feed as well as China’s traditional baijiu liquor, on the Chinese market and harming Chinese farmers.

China’s ministry of commerce said it would begin requiring deposits of 178.6% of the value of grain shipments. The five diverted sorghum ships, all loaded in Texas, would have had to pay that deposit, rendering their shipments unprofitable, Reuters reported.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/20/us-sorghum-fleet-china-grain-tariff-trade

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US grain ships diverted at sea hours after China imposes grain tariff (Original Post) turbinetree Apr 2018 OP

This is a move that targets Kansas greymattermom Apr 2018 #1

" . . . all loaded in Texas . . ." Vinca Apr 2018 #2

So much winning Botany Apr 2018 #3

So what? Cartoonist Apr 2018 #9

"I'm a business man: I beat China all the time" Dorn Apr 2018 #11

Rather than let the cargo rot reimburse the growers and ship it to famine stricken countries. nt Snotcicles Apr 2018 #4

You mean those shithole countries? progressoid Apr 2018 #6

Isn't this why China is taxing the grain? watoos Apr 2018 #8

Trump might be bluffing, but China isnt. Tariffs are going to hurt farmers-and auto manufacturers notdarkyet Apr 2018 #10

Feeding the Hungry is not a republican "value" Achilleaze Apr 2018 #13

They only tolerate the ones that get them votes. world wide wally Apr 2018 #16

The farmers gotta dance with the one that brung ya! Kittycow Apr 2018 #5

Dumpsters are so dumb they'll just blame China. dreamland Apr 2018 #7

Actually they'll blame Obama. nt hvn_nbr_2 Apr 2018 #21

republican Comrade Casino* pissed on America's Heartland Achilleaze Apr 2018 #12

The Farmers who voted POTUS into the White House,,, Cryptoad Apr 2018 #19

Most amazing is my former governor exboyfil Apr 2018 #14

As a Texan, CCExile Apr 2018 #15

Attach crop surplus relief to the Mueller protection bill and get it passed! Deb Apr 2018 #17

Well...when you live in western Kansas and go 90+% for Trump you get what you get...... Bengus81 Apr 2018 #18

Good luck Kansas Sorghum farmers .... you just lost the biggest market in the world Botany Apr 2018 #20

bet those republican farmers who voted for don are thrilled. spanone Apr 2018 #22

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)

1. This is a move that targets Kansas

Reply to turbinetree (Original post)

Fri Apr 20, 2018, 06:58 AM

Apr 2018

and I hope folks in western Kansas understand that.
https://www.nass.usda.gov/Statistics_by_State/Kansas/Publications/County_Estimates/17KSSorgYLD.pdf

Vinca

(50,278 posts)

2. " . . . all loaded in Texas . . ."

Reply to turbinetree (Original post)

Fri Apr 20, 2018, 07:27 AM

Apr 2018

Sorry, Trumphumpers.

Botany

(70,516 posts)

3. So much winning

Reply to turbinetree (Original post)

Fri Apr 20, 2018, 07:28 AM

Apr 2018

Way to go Donny. ATTN Kansas sorghum farmers you are really fucked.
But you helped to stop Hillary’s liberal agenda so never mind that now you
can’t sell your crops or have labor for your farms.

Cartoonist

(7,317 posts)

9. So what?

Reply to Botany (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 20, 2018, 08:15 AM

Apr 2018

emails! Benghazi!

Really, that's how hopeless it is.

Dorn

(523 posts)

11. "I'm a business man: I beat China all the time"

Reply to Botany (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 20, 2018, 08:36 AM

Apr 2018

What moon landing?
I just saw Elvis at the 7-eleven.

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)

4. Rather than let the cargo rot reimburse the growers and ship it to famine stricken countries. nt

Reply to turbinetree (Original post)

Fri Apr 20, 2018, 07:29 AM

Apr 2018

progressoid

(49,991 posts)

6. You mean those shithole countries?

Reply to Snotcicles (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 20, 2018, 07:52 AM

Apr 2018

Don't hold your breath waiting for the gov't to help out there.

watoos

(7,142 posts)

8. Isn't this why China is taxing the grain?

Reply to Snotcicles (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 20, 2018, 08:13 AM

Apr 2018

The farmers are already being subsidized by our government, that's why China is imposing the tax, China is claiming unfair competition, claiming that Chinese farmers can't compete with the U.S. subsidized grain.

We do the same thing that we accuse other countries of doing. Trump's trade war will only cause prices to go up for all the little people.

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)

10. Trump might be bluffing, but China isnt. Tariffs are going to hurt farmers-and auto manufacturers

Reply to watoos (Reply #8)

Fri Apr 20, 2018, 08:36 AM

Apr 2018

Are already shutting plants. Trump had an angry fit one day, and like the child he is, lashed out on a world stage, tantrum to hurt as many people as he could,
Damn the consequences. But, hey, keep pumping out that coal and steel. And keep supporting the traitor in office. Too many dummies in this country.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)

13. Feeding the Hungry is not a republican "value"

Reply to Snotcicles (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 20, 2018, 08:41 AM

Apr 2018

Even though that is precisely what Jesus preached. Why do republicans hate the teachings of Jesus?

world wide wally

(21,744 posts)

16. They only tolerate the ones that get them votes.

Reply to Achilleaze (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 20, 2018, 09:02 AM

Apr 2018

Even though he actually talked about feeding the poor, and never about abortion, the abortion one is a better vote getter. Hence, your modern day American Christian.

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)

5. The farmers gotta dance with the one that brung ya!

Reply to turbinetree (Original post)

Fri Apr 20, 2018, 07:45 AM

Apr 2018

dreamland

(964 posts)

7. Dumpsters are so dumb they'll just blame China.

Reply to turbinetree (Original post)

Fri Apr 20, 2018, 08:13 AM

Apr 2018

It everyone else's fault except their dear leader. They made their bed...

hvn_nbr_2

(6,486 posts)

21. Actually they'll blame Obama. nt

Reply to dreamland (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 20, 2018, 11:50 AM

Apr 2018

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)

12. republican Comrade Casino* pissed on America's Heartland

Reply to turbinetree (Original post)

Fri Apr 20, 2018, 08:37 AM

Apr 2018

Now the stink is rising.

* aka Dirty Donny, republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)

19. The Farmers who voted POTUS into the White House,,,

Reply to Achilleaze (Reply #12)

Fri Apr 20, 2018, 09:36 AM

Apr 2018

They just think China is raining on them.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)

14. Most amazing is my former governor

Reply to turbinetree (Original post)

Fri Apr 20, 2018, 08:56 AM

Apr 2018

Terry Branstad has been virtually silent on this situation. I guess he thought the ambassadorship was a sinecure.

Even more amazing is reporters are not following up on it.

CCExile

(469 posts)

15. As a Texan,

Reply to turbinetree (Original post)

Fri Apr 20, 2018, 08:57 AM

Apr 2018

I can assure you that Texas farmers are happy about this because they are patriots (lie). They are unhappy, though, that Trump hasn't gunned down a random New Yorker in public. Here all politics are yokel.