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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 09:43 AM Apr 2018

Kamala Harris' rapid rise confounds California

First-term senator is popular but remains something of a mystery to state voters.

By DAVID SIDERS 04/19/2018 08:51 PM EDT

LOS ANGELES — Kamala Harris has been called “the female Barack Obama.” She’s built a national following with her outspoken criticism of Donald Trump and prolific fundraising for fellow Democrats.

But the California senator’s rapid rise — she’s just 15 months into her first term — has created an awkward issue: Even as progressives tout her as one of the top 2020 contenders, Harris remains something of a mystery back home.

Her approval ratings are solid, but not stratospheric. And 28 percent of California voters say they don’t know or have no opinion about Harris, according to a recent Morning Consult poll — placing her in the bottom 10 of name recognition among U.S. senators in their home states.

A Berkeley IGS Poll in September found California voters — by a more than 2-to-1 margin, 49 percent to 22 percent — would rather Harris stay in the Senate than run for president in 2020.

That disconnect could be a problem with California preparing to host an early presidential primary just after Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina.

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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/19/kamala-harris-california-voters-538851

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Kamala Harris' rapid rise confounds California (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2018 OP
I saw her on Colbert's talk show the other night... SWBTATTReg Apr 2018 #1
She's all of that awesomerwb1 Apr 2018 #2
Yes, a female and African American but you forgot the BIG hurdle..... Brother Buzz Apr 2018 #4
Sadly, that's another obstacle... awesomerwb1 Apr 2018 #7
Hailing from California is not a nonstarter oberliner Apr 2018 #11
Too hell that, we're not going to win by wooing Trump's racist base Tarc Apr 2018 #21
The House is 2018 -- Presidential is 2020 WhiteTara Apr 2018 #9
The only reason any Democrat wins anywhere ever is because of African-American females oberliner Apr 2018 #10
I don't think you realize how this sounds or how faulty the reasoning is EffieBlack Apr 2018 #12
Thank you for your comments. awesomerwb1 Apr 2018 #14
No, only people like Joe Biden who made the unforgivable sin and immediate disqualified poboy2 Apr 2018 #17
Really? When did that happen? Got a link? EffieBlack Apr 2018 #20
Nice try politico. This Californian is down with Kamala. MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #3
Thanks for an expression of sense and sensibility. NBachers Apr 2018 #5
She fights Corgigal Apr 2018 #6
I like her NewJeffCT Apr 2018 #8
Another Politico hit piece on a significant Democratic figure. Hortensis Apr 2018 #13
I met her at a small cocktail party hardluck Apr 2018 #15
I'm ready for Harris/Waters 2020. Orsino Apr 2018 #16
Damning with faint praise... SidDithers Apr 2018 #18
a list of her accomplishments would be nice rather than idle speculation nt msongs Apr 2018 #19

SWBTATTReg

(22,133 posts)
1. I saw her on Colbert's talk show the other night...
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 09:47 AM
Apr 2018

I was impressed and she reminded me of when Barak O. first came out. She seemed well posed, in control, and very intelligent. A winner. Californians will come to know her if they don't already.

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
2. She's all of that
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 10:21 AM
Apr 2018

and more. I like her.

But I don't think she's the right candidate for a racially divided country. Female and African American? Not 2020. Just my opinion.

We need to win back the House in November and start cleaning up the mess. Otherwise we're f-ed.

Brother Buzz

(36,444 posts)
4. Yes, a female and African American but you forgot the BIG hurdle.....
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 10:40 AM
Apr 2018

Hailing from California makes her all but a nonstarter in this polarized nation.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
21. Too hell that, we're not going to win by wooing Trump's racist base
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 02:41 PM
Apr 2018

2018 and beyond have to be about a progressive message and the best candidate who can carry it, not running a GOP Lite candidate that is the least offensive to rural whites.

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
9. The House is 2018 -- Presidential is 2020
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 11:06 AM
Apr 2018

So I think we have a couple of years to get used to it. Especially if we take the House then the WH tumbles, we'll have President Pelosii to get them used to a woman in the White House.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
10. The only reason any Democrat wins anywhere ever is because of African-American females
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 11:06 AM
Apr 2018

Without question, our party should nominate such a candidate

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
12. I don't think you realize how this sounds or how faulty the reasoning is
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 11:10 AM
Apr 2018

You're telling a black female she should take a backseat and not have the same opportunities a white person has because the country is "racially divided." Think about that.

If the country is "racially divided," that means there's a division between more than one race - since white people are a race, too. But actually, the divide is over racial ISSUES, not race itself since an although one side of the divide is virtually all white, the other side, the side that we're on, is very diverse - full of good, progressive black, brown, white people.

It doesn't make sense to say that, because the country is racially divided, people on one side of the divide - actually, just the black people that side of the divide since white progressives aren't being told to wait it out - should stand down and let the people on the other side of the divide take charge.

Telling black people that we must step aside so that everyone can rally around a Great White Hope is really insulting. I'm sure you didn't mean it that way and I'm not judging you - just pointing it out so that you're aware and, hopefully, will adjust your perspective.

Kamala Harris has just as much right as anyone else to run for president and she has just as good a chance as anyone else. Saying that "now's not a good time" for her to run because she's a black female is just wrong - especially if since no one would think of saying that the time is not right for a white man to run for any office he chooses, solely because he's white and male and the country is racially divided.

The country is no more racially divided than in the past. It's certainly no more racially divided than it was when Obama was elected (and we were constantly told then that America was "ready yet" for a black president). The divide is just more apparent to people who weren't really paying attention before.

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
14. Thank you for your comments.
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 11:27 AM
Apr 2018

No one is disputing anyone's "right" to run for President. No one's telling anyone to step aside. I certainly wasn't.

I'll focus on 2018 like we all should. Hopefully we take the House back and get the country back on track.

 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
17. No, only people like Joe Biden who made the unforgivable sin and immediate disqualified
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 12:08 PM
Apr 2018

himself from any office should 'step aside'.
You see, he said (after Trump insulted yet another woman) if he were younger that he'd challenge Fuckface to a fight.

Disqualified for being a sexist, male chauvinist pig who is out of touch.

Go home Joe.

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
3. Nice try politico. This Californian is down with Kamala.
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 10:23 AM
Apr 2018

There is no disconnect. There is no problem. There is only politico stirring the pot. Again.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
6. She fights
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 11:02 AM
Apr 2018

Don't play her, and she will kick your ass. In her elegant, but in a current day swagger. Need more Dems that can pull this off.

Call me next time Mr author, David Siders, for some insight.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
8. I like her
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 11:05 AM
Apr 2018

and, she has the most progressive voting record in the Senate - more liberal than Ed Markey and Elizabeth Warren.

I haven't supported anybody in a Democratic primary since my first one in 1988 (Dukakis), and likely won't this time around, either, though.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Another Politico hit piece on a significant Democratic figure.
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 11:24 AM
Apr 2018
The combined viewership of all three cable political channels, MSNBC, CNN and Fox, together is about 2.5% of only REGISTERED VOTERS. (5 million out of 200 million registered voters.)

Politico knows that.

Almost all people are paying only some, to a little, to basically no attention to even the enormous national drama being played out in DC now. Of course almost none are looking at candidates for 2020 yet. They wouldn't be this early in any presidential term. And those who will be candidates, as Ms. Harris may be, are investing these years developing their agendas and gathering the support of influential power players in their states and then others, while also working long hours at their current positions and developing a record they can sell. It's way too early to try to talk to voters who aren't listening.

Politico knows that too.

Add to THAT the reality that large portions of the electorate always have little or no knowledge or opinion about their senators. And of those who do, if the senator hasn't been in office at least a decade, most will be mostly regurgitating a couple of issues they do or do not agree with, plus the kind of hostile opposition messages that stick in memory and make them feel they do know something. That's just the way it is.

And Politico knows that perfectly well also.


hardluck

(639 posts)
15. I met her at a small cocktail party
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 11:49 AM
Apr 2018

At my prior firm while she was running for senator. She was very impressive. We all came away thinking that we’d be seeing her as governor or president in the next decade.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
16. I'm ready for Harris/Waters 2020.
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 12:03 PM
Apr 2018

Or any other ticket our herd of cats can come close to agreeing on.

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