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Funny how the Steele dossier lines up with the events @ Ritz Carlton Moscow
1) There was a FISA warrant on Flynn. We'd already figured that out, but I don't think it's been confirmed. It's redacted in this document, but the answer that fits in the space according to specialists is "was yes".
2) Trump lied repeatedly about whether he stayed in Moscow the night of the alleged pee tape.
He said he didn't.
Multiple witnesses, including his own body guard Schiller, have confirmed that Trump did stay at the Ritz that night.
Witnesses (again including Schiller) have also confirmed that he was offered prostitutes for that same night.
The BBC and Guardian reported months ago that they have witnesses who say they were in the lobby of the Ritz the night of the allege pee tape and confirm that there was a scene between Trump and his people versus security at the front desk. Trump was trying to get women up to his room without signing them in. One of the witnesses is a Trump Org employee.
3) Trump's defense is that he's a germaphobe and wouldn't watch people pee on each other.
First, urine is sterile, but Don isn't smart enough to know that. Second, as Comey points out, the Presidential suite is probably fairly large and he wouldn't be in the splash radius.
4) Trump claims he doesn't know Sergei Millian, but he does.
5) Putin may have called Trump to congratulate him and Flynn took 6 days to tell Trump this, pissing Trump off. This is redacted, but fits in the space for the redaction and fits the rest of the context.
6) The Steele Dossier had already been found credible by the FBI. It was "coroborated by other intelligence" and the FBI considered Steele highly credible. The White House was told about this no later than Feb 8, 2017 and has been lying about it for more than a year.
7) The White House knew Flynn was under a FISA warrant. They found out about it no later than Feb 8, 2017.
8) Trump and Putin talked about hookers on the phone. Putin told Trump Russia had some of the most beautiful hookers in the world.
hlthe2b
(102,291 posts)johnp3907
(3,732 posts)hlthe2b
(102,291 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)thanks, corrected
FreeState
(10,572 posts)"Urine is not sterile, even before it comes out of you and gets contaminated by your skin. Bacteria are present at low levels in the urine of healthy people not suffering from a urinary tract infection, Evann Hilt of Loyola University of Chicago reported May 18 at a conference of the American Society for Microbiology. Now, Hilt and her colleagues are figuring out what bacteria make up the normal bladder community and whether a change in that community might trigger urinary problems."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3957746/
RESULTS
Culture results.
Sixty-five urine specimens (from 41 OAB patients and 24 controls) were examined using both the standard and EQUC techniques. Most (52/65 [80%]) grew bacterial species, with the majority of these (48/52 [92%]) reported as no growth at 103 by the clinical microbiology laboratory using the standard urine culture protocol.
Using the EQUC technique, we isolated 35 different genera (Fig. 1) and 85 different species (Table 1), as identified by MALDI-TOF. To isolate these species, a combination of different culture and incubation conditions were required. Most of the bacteria isolated required either increased CO2 or anaerobic conditions for growth, along with prolonged incubation, and they often were present in numbers below the threshold of detection used in routine diagnostic urine culture protocols. With few exceptions, most bacteria were recovered on at least one of the primary plating media (data not shown). One case each of Enterococcus faecalis, Rothia dentocariosa, Staphylococcus aureus, and Staphylococcus epidermidis were recovered from thioglycolate broth only. A breakdown of the culture media and conditions for isolation of the 85 species is given in Table 1.
SWBTATTReg
(22,133 posts)was fishy, and in fact, the opposite, which you cleared up very well. Thanks again.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)erronis
(15,299 posts)Earlier wars over the last 100,000 years with traumatic injuries have taught the soldiers/medics a lot of tricks.
So much our modern medicine is just a for-profit wrapping around known natural cures.
Xolodno
(6,395 posts)I've haven't had to buy athletes foot medicine in ages....
Hugin
(33,162 posts)Granted, a couple of things...
Either liquid is probably better for human exposure than, say, the water in Flint, MI.
The potential pathogens in human urine are likely to be more specific to human infection than any found in tap water. However, in overpopulated areas with no treatment of effluent make this point debatable.
Most of all, President Cheese Whiz was totally ignorant of this fact and was using it as what he thought was a plausible excuse for why he would not participate in water sports. However, his apparent insistence on engaging in allegedly uncompensated unprotected sex with multiple partners of multiple partners totally blows the "germophobe" claim to smithereens.
I'm thinking David Dennison isn't a potential blood donor in other words.
Now, should we move on to how sterile the magazine Stormy blazed the Clockwork Orange's ass with? I'm betting, not very.
meadowlander
(4,397 posts)I also like David Frum's thesis that Putin said on TV that Russia has great hookers which was an actual news story
https://www.vox.com/world/2017/1/17/14296414/putin-trump-russian-prostitutes-yes-really
And Trump must have seen this on TV and it got garbled into his mind as Putin saying this to him.
Because otherwise this would have to have come up in the first phone call that the two ever made to each other and it seems like a strange statement to get to with someone you have never talked to before.
It would be an interesting psychological insight if Trump really does assume that everyone he sees on TV is talking directly to him.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/04/20/when-did-trump-and-putin-talk-about-hookers/
yonder
(9,666 posts)If I wasn't scared before, I am now.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)1. DT is trying to find out how much JC knows, believes, or is investigating. Trying to feel him out
2. DT is trying to prove or convince JC that he is innocent, trying to cover his ass.
I think Comey brought up the pee tapes first, and that had DT worried
FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)I'm pretty sure Obama told Cheeto on the day he came to the White House before the Inauguration. That would have been mid-January, Obama knew Flynn was being investigated, and it could be why Obama fired him the year before.
Also didn't Sally Yates tell Cheeto about Flynn within a week of his Inauguration? I believe she made a special visit to the WH just to warn Cheeto about Flynn, and it would have been in the last week of January.
Other than that, your deductions look good! Nice work.
bucolic_frolic
(43,176 posts)That's something one learns in the hotel business I suspect.
Wonder if he kept lists of visitors to rooms at his hotels. Could be persuasive evidence in the right circumstances.
Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)The Trump administration will keep the records of who visits the White House secret, ending a practice started under the Obama administration of partially releasing visitor logs, a White House official said Friday.
<more at site but old news>
http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-trump-s-white-house-will-keep-its-guest-1492192059-htmlstory.html
calimary
(81,306 posts)czarjak
(11,278 posts)Innacurate facts
oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)don't stick their tongues down the throats of women they find attractive. Germophobes don't have unprotected sex with porn actresses.
calimary
(81,306 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)Featuring Dirty Donny, the ignoble republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief