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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSusan Sarandon says she 'alienated' women in Hollywood by not supporting Hillary Clinton
Can we form a line here of people who'd like to offer their sympathies?
She cites visiting Nicaragua in 1984 as a moment of controversy in her career, but that the 2016 election drew the line in the sand very deeply. [It] wasnt anything to do with [Clinton] personally, it all had to do with her policies and her actions and where she was getting her money from and things like that.
She added, I think when youre becoming a person, you have to challenge everything that youve been told. You have to look at your religion, you have to look at your nationalism, you have to look at how your sex life unfolds, everything. You have to go through that period. And thats why no one should make a decision till theyre in their 30s about who theyre with [laughs], because you have to become that person. You have to own who that is, and you have to go through crises of faith before you can embrace who you are fully.
http://ew.com/podcasts/2018/04/20/susan-sarandon-hillary-clinton-jeffrey-bowyer-chapman-podcast/
oberliner
(58,724 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)Stallion
(6,476 posts)Trump enabler
Elections have consequences on a personal level too
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)WhiteTara
(29,721 posts)They sound the same--incoherent
UTUSN
(70,725 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)I'm glad she is getting push back.
wasupaloopa
(4,516 posts)Gothmog
(145,482 posts)Boo hoo
Susan Sarsndon helped to elect trump
skylucy
(3,740 posts)mcar
(42,366 posts)Takket
(21,610 posts)it isn't just that she didn't support hillary, it is that she so actively supported drumpf as the less dangerous of the two.........
jrthin
(4,837 posts)on a chalk board.
Leith
(7,813 posts)<*siiiigh*>...
Here's the thing, Susan. Third parties just don't win elections, but they DO disrupt them. If you care about intelligence, experience, children's healthcare, mental stability, and a thousand other things - like facts - HRC was the obvious choice then and now.
Go and "find yourself" on your own time. Election day is when you step outside yourself and make the most intelligent choice. You don't make a statement that someone with decades of working for the best for the country is no better than some self-styled big city rich playboy whose hobbies
were trading barroom stories with Howard Stern and stiffing people who did work on his properties.
prayin4rain
(2,065 posts)Wolf Frankula
(3,601 posts)You did something stupid. Don't you think that might be the reason?
Wolf
Cha
(297,503 posts)If she "alienated" anyone it's because she LIED about Hillary and trump. Doubling down in 2017.. as she sits on her millions and spouts her vapid shite.
Hillary Clinton was more dangerous than Donald Trump: Susan Sarandon
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/hillary-clinton-was-more-dangerous-than-donald-trump-susan-sarandon/articleshow/61830158.cms
dalton99a
(81,566 posts)Cha
(297,503 posts)bad actors in this whole take over of our government by the Russians.
She sits on her million$ spewing bullshit and whining about herself.. while trump and his doormats are destroying not only our country but the Planet, too.
emulatorloo
(44,167 posts)Too self absorbed to be self aware. Didnt give a shit about the weakest and most vulnerable Americans. Threw them to the wolves.
BoneyardDem
(1,202 posts)She clearly doesn't see what she has done and e erythronium she has said.
oasis
(49,398 posts)MurrayDelph
(5,300 posts)It's not just women that you've alienated.
still_one
(92,353 posts)TeamPooka
(24,242 posts)world wide wally
(21,751 posts)and privlege than most of us combined
Johnny2X2X
(19,104 posts)Susan Sarandon is so out of touch with the real world its pathetic.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Sarandon is on "ignore" now.
still_one
(92,353 posts)Cha
(297,503 posts)while the LIES she told have helped to bring about trump and bringing about the destruction of our country and the Planet.
still_one
(92,353 posts)DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)She still thinks she was in the right.
ProfessorGAC
(65,136 posts)I don't see any "I was wrong." in there. Just self-serving rationalization.
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)Rorey
(8,445 posts)I just haven't wanted to see anything she's in since she started exhibiting this stupidity. I don't even buy Tylenol anymore.
betsuni
(25,596 posts)I think that's how she keeps her youthful appearance, by remaining a misinformed self-absorbed emotional teenager forever.
Ukrainian Yankee
(89 posts)How's that "revolution" you were trying to promote working out?
sprinkleeninow
(20,254 posts)Salviati
(6,008 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(17,188 posts)just to read the outpouring of sympathy I knew she'd be receiving.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)maybe Roseanne will be her friend.
what a pair those two would make...dumb and dumber.
LeftishBrit
(41,208 posts)Cha
(297,503 posts)all over the world aren't as gullible as she must think.
JCanete
(5,272 posts)they are trying to grapple with truth and if they truly believe what they are saying then they should absolutely be saying it. Sarandon for her part, has been on the right side of a lot of issues, which put her on a deck of cards that was promoted heavily in right wing media during the Iraq war. People who can't do nuance and find the good in people even while they grapple with the grievances they have with them, depress me. I get it...people are angry that she didn't advocate for Clinton and instead advocated for Stein, and that for a confluence of reasons, we now have Trump in the White House.
I certainly have reasons to disagree with Sarandon on her stance, but I don't begrudge her her stance. I don't 100 percent know its wrong. I don't really get the Stein thing because Stein seems problematic, but I do get voting principles over short-term strategy, although I personally think Sarandon's recent vote and GE advocacy was a bad call. But her principles still seem to be in the right place. What she cares about seems entirely legitimate to me. Its her approach to achieving it that we disagree with. That kind of seems like where the energy should be spent, but then people just want to lash out and blame, and to make those who offend them evil or selfish. That's the fucking worst. That is what scares me the most...that we can be just as reactionary, black-and-white, uncircumspect, as republicans really makes me fear for the future...since we kind of need to rely on democrats to be the adults in the room.
betsuni
(25,596 posts)People aren't lashing out and blaming, they're pointing out an ignorant reactionary black-or-white airhead who can't tell the difference between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, the type of JPR fucking moron who makes anyone with common sense fear for our future. Duh.
JCanete
(5,272 posts)and entirely unprincipled pandering that suggested he had no compunctions about doing something like this at all. I agree with you, she was way off base. I don't know why that has to mean she is a horrible person, or a moron. She's been right before and wrong before. People you are so happy to claim are the brilliant wonks have been horribly wrong before when she was right. How many Iraqis are dead?
Lady_Chat
(561 posts)and I do dislike her. We heard the same baloney from her about Ralph Nader..."Gore was no different than Bush" Really? "Hillary Clinton is more dangerous than Trump." Really? I don't know where she gets her information from, but it seems she has no problem with being nasty and ill informed.
I think Democrats have been the "adults in the room" for far too long, too nice and accepting, it has caused us to lose way too many seats and to look weak.
I'm tired of being nice and accepting, I'm angry about the 2016 debacle and Trump. But I am also happy and proud, that the things are changing. That there are so many women who are running and winning from our party. That took courage. I'm proud of all the Women's marches and those who participated in them. Sarandon sure isn't one of them. She's just good for running her mouth and spouting her "alternative facts".
Life is too short to suffer fools gladly, and Sarandon is a fool. period.
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)bullying an icon of the farm workers movement, Dolores Huerta.
She's welcome to her stance, but she's not welcome to bullying people who disagree with her.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Completely inaccurate to simply go with over short-term strateg.
Can it really be called principle when based off of lies and deception? Not a chance. Its called privilege.
JCanete
(5,272 posts)thought Trump's words had meaning and that he would not be an interventionist overseas. She very well may have believed that, although that certainly is egg on her face. What lies and deception of hers are you referring to though?
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)Susie and her merry band of anarchist blew up the country in 2000...two wars and economic collapse...you go girl(sarcasm I really hate her)! They weakened Kerry early in the campaign and did little to prevent the re-election of Bush II...but boy they really f'd up in 16 by electing Trump. I have no respect for any that message vote. You have two choices a GOP asshat and a Democrat...you help elect the GOP than you are scum...just my opinion. I never watch her anymore and have thrown out any blue-rays I had. I used to like her...gave her a pass in 2000 but not anymore. And notice, Miss rich Sarandon can afford to weather Trump unlike the rest of us...and she has no remorse. She lectures us! I turn off any program she is on and send a message that I did so.
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)"How could you not know--," she asked, over and over. How could SHE not know that she wasn't fit to wipe Huerta's shoes. And she, as a California resident, had no business trying to change votes at a Nevada caucus.
What an insufferable person.
Agree with you, she's a fool, filled with "alternative facts" and deplorable.
oasis
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democratisphere
(17,235 posts)tavernier
(12,396 posts)Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)the me too movement is a particularly bad fit since you helped put a rapist and a pussy grabber in the White House.They are also gutting protections for women in the workforce in terms of equal pay and recourse if you are sexually harassed. Wow, twice now, you helped fuck all Americans but particularly women by helping elect Republicans at critical times...Bush II and Trump. I think you and others in your anarchist movement weakened Kerry early in the campaign too. Again, my very best fuck you goes out to you and Nina the other traitor to the progressive movement.
Blue_Adept
(6,400 posts)from their work. I enjoyed a great deal of things from folks like Orson Scott Card (Ender's game, yo!) and many comic artists whose politics I disagree with but can still enjoy their work on the page.
But Sarandon, damn, something about how she was out there, how she presented herself, made it so that I really don't want to see her in any film or project. I have the same kind of visceral reaction to her that I do when I see megan mcain on the view. Just revulsed.