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TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts) Sat Apr 21, 2018, 07:22 AM Apr 2018

BRUCE CAMPBELL: Starz is ending the 'Ash vs. Evil Dead' series.

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One of the funniest horror shows of all time is coming to an end, probably without proper closure (as usual).

Starz cites low ratings, but anyone familiar with the Evil Dead trilogy, Evil Dead the Musical, or this series--sometimes the ratings aren't everything to the viewing public. Many people have Ash vs. Evil Dead get togethers, and if their movie DVD sales decades later is any reflection, Starz will be cashing in on this series for decades.

Now, we're left with more shit to wade though, since all the unique and fun things get canceled.

Bruce Campbell
?Verified account @GroovyBruce
16h16 hours ago

Ash Vs Evil Dead has been the ride of a lifetime. Ash Williams was the role of a lifetime.

I will always be grateful to Starz, Sam Raimi, Rob Tapert and our tireless fans for the opportunity to revisit the franchise that launched our careers. Thank you!

Link to tweet

Dang! One of the reasons why I keep HBO is for Bill Maher. One of the reasons I kept Starz was for Ash vs.Evil Dead.

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BRUCE CAMPBELL: Starz is ending the 'Ash vs. Evil Dead' series. (Original Post) TheBlackAdder Apr 2018 OP

Definitely disappointing to see it coming to an end Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #1

Thank you Bruce! Zoonart Apr 2018 #2

So disappointed....loved that show Docreed2003 Apr 2018 #3

They're down pretty hard Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #6

Starz is an extra $10/mo on my FiOS cable plan. That probably hurts viewership. TheBlackAdder Apr 2018 #7

Yeah, any premium channel is going to have different constraints to a broadcast one Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #8

I just think that where they lose on viewership, they'll gain over decades with fanbased DVD sales. TheBlackAdder Apr 2018 #9

Sadly, most won't purchase Blue_Adept Apr 2018 #10

My husband and son watch that show. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #4

I enjoyed the first 2 episodes that kicked off the series, but eShirl Apr 2018 #5

Damn, damn, damn DavidDvorkin Apr 2018 #11

Goddamn it vercetti2021 Apr 2018 #12

Blue_Adept

(6,400 posts)

1. Definitely disappointing to see it coming to an end

Reply to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 07:39 AM

Apr 2018

Starz and Cinemax continue to squander their strong original series.

Zoonart

(11,877 posts)

2. Thank you Bruce!

Reply to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 07:55 AM

Apr 2018

Can't wait to see what your next project will be.

"The Chin" lives oon!

Docreed2003

(16,869 posts)

3. So disappointed....loved that show

Reply to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 08:36 AM

Apr 2018

I wonder if Starz took into account those of us who tend to binge watch episodes? I find it hard to believe ratings were down that much.

Blue_Adept

(6,400 posts)

6. They're down pretty hard

Reply to Docreed2003 (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 09:15 AM

Apr 2018

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ash_vs_Evil_Dead#Episodes

First season was in the high 200,000 to low 300,000 range, which already wasn't good but the show was short so that helped. This season it's down to the mid to high 100,000 range with a series low of 136,000 earlier this month.

They do factor in overseas to some degree and online viewing as well through their app combined with some home video sales. But the outlay for each season just isn't there to be justified when it could be put to a show that "could" do double that easily out of the gate. It's a popular cult show but a cult show nonetheless.

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)

7. Starz is an extra $10/mo on my FiOS cable plan. That probably hurts viewership.

Reply to Blue_Adept (Reply #6)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 09:28 AM

Apr 2018

Blue_Adept

(6,400 posts)

8. Yeah, any premium channel is going to have different constraints to a broadcast one

Reply to TheBlackAdder (Reply #7)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 09:32 AM

Apr 2018

HBO would have nixed it awhile ago. Seeing how it dropped in the third season definitely makes it clear why it's getting the axe.

The premium channels always have a harder time of drawing an audience because they're a bit more limited in their advertising. your ABC networks can easily cross-market shows across their various platforms. Starz has just starz and most people don't just leave starz on all day, unlike say ABC throughout an evening or something. So it's more targeted but that just ends up going after a smaller group insteaed of a wide net.

TheBlackAdder

(28,211 posts)

9. I just think that where they lose on viewership, they'll gain over decades with fanbased DVD sales.

Reply to Blue_Adept (Reply #8)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 09:53 AM

Apr 2018

People who are not Starz subscribers, or don't have that option, will purchase the DVD set.

There are millions of Ash fans worldwide.

Blue_Adept

(6,400 posts)

10. Sadly, most won't purchase

Reply to TheBlackAdder (Reply #9)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 09:59 AM

Apr 2018

There'll always be a segment, but the bulk that are not Starz members will just end up seeing non-monetized illegal streams of it and watch that way. With disc sales dropping regularly, that's not a market they want to count on either. It's somewhat shortsighted to be sure, but they have to focus on what will earn them subscribers as that's how Starz makes its money.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)

4. My husband and son watch that show.

Reply to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 09:10 AM

Apr 2018

Honestly, I don't get it. But, they seem to enjoy it whenever they get together.

eShirl

(18,502 posts)

5. I enjoyed the first 2 episodes that kicked off the series, but

Reply to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 09:13 AM

Apr 2018

after the 3rd episode I found myself asking if I really wanted to sit through 3 entire seasons of this. I felt like I was watching an old "Supernatural" rerun. I don't watch "Supernatural" anymore either, so it's probably that my tastes are changing.

DavidDvorkin

(19,485 posts)

11. Damn, damn, damn

Reply to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 11:47 AM

Apr 2018

One of the best shows on TV.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)

12. Goddamn it

Reply to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 11:51 AM

Apr 2018

This is like one of my favorite shows. Well time to cancel Starz. Thank you Bruce for such an amazing character over the past decades and hopefully to newer things.

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