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mcar

(42,372 posts)
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 10:34 AM Apr 2018

The Republicans Desperate Obsession With Nancy Pelosi

The Republicans’ Desperate Obsession With Nancy Pelosi

She's the star of GOP attack ads because the party has no other choice.
By JEET HEER
April 23, 2018

...The relentless demonization of Pelosi, who has reached the highest office of any female politician in American history, is partly fueled by—and an appeal to—sexism. “I think they need to get a new game book,” Representative Joseph Crowley, chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, said last month of Republicans. “The attempts to use Nancy Pelosi, it’s failing them at this point. And I think, quite frankly, it’s sexist.” ...

Thomas Mann, of the Brookings Institution, has hailed her as the “strongest and most effective speaker of modern times” because of her success in securing stimulus funding in 2009 and overseeing the passage of the Affordable Care Act the following year. As Peter Beinart pointed out in this month’s Atlantic, “even after being relegated to minority leader when Republicans took the House in 2010, she kept winning legislative fights. In the summer of 2015, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee and the Republican Party launched a mammoth lobbying campaign to kill Obama’s nuclear agreement with Iran. Pelosi quickly secured the votes to prevent Republicans from overturning the agreement, thus checkmating the deal’s foes.”

Pelosi is a Democratic powerhouse in an era where the two parties are dividing along gender lines. This is not just a matter of the gender gap among voters or Donald Trump’s long history of sexism. Democrats are much more likely to have female lawmakers than Republicans are. A third of all Democrats in Congress are female (78), whereas just 9 percent of Republicans are (26). “Democrats, even though they are outnumbered by Republicans, have three times more women in the two chambers,” Politifact noted...

Pelosi is a polarizing figure nationally, but she’s popular with Democrats. As Politico reported in June 2017, “Pelosi has a 2-to-1 favorable-to-unfavorable rating among Democrats, 49 percent to 25 percent. But her ratings among Republicans (21 percent to 63 percent) and independents (20 percent to 52 percent) are far worse.” When polling questions about Pelosi are linked to specific issues, Pelosi does even better. A CNBC poll showed that 49 percent of the public agreed with her that corporations got reaped a windfall from the GOP tax cuts while only giving workers “crumbs.”

https://newrepublic.com/article/148074/republicans-desperate-obsession-nancy-pelosi

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The Republicans Desperate Obsession With Nancy Pelosi (Original Post) mcar Apr 2018 OP
Republicans hate her not only because she is a woman Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2018 #1
Thank you! VOX Apr 2018 #3
Senator Claire McK. is a good rep here in MO... SWBTATTReg Apr 2018 #5
She is terrific. VOX Apr 2018 #11
Lucky you, and may it continue... SWBTATTReg Apr 2018 #13
Republican leaders, in contrast, just pretend to hate her so the rubes will. Orsino Apr 2018 #6
Yup, that too Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2018 #7
And they know Dems often fall all over ourselves trying to make ourselves pleasing to Republicans EffieBlack Apr 2018 #20
I can't agree with that at all and only wonder how this thread about Hortensis Apr 2018 #25
I will never understand why some fall for this mcar Apr 2018 #36
+1000! mcar Apr 2018 #15
+ a million. K & R your post. Wwcd Apr 2018 #28
We need new leadership in the house. dubyadiprecession Apr 2018 #2
No,we don't mcar Apr 2018 #16
lol. Yeah. That's it. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #23
Whatever you've been reading, perhaps it's way past Hortensis Apr 2018 #26
"the left wing radicals who covet our party and power," Wwcd Apr 2018 #29
I think that Dem's should just continue to say they won't vote for her and they can Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #4
Democrats should NOT denounce or run away from her Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2018 #10
+1000, it is just absurd to suggest Pelosi should go R B Garr Apr 2018 #12
I mean in red areas only that we need to flip. These Dem's are disarming the Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #17
I get what you're saying Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2018 #18
I know... but this is called a strategy...and without one we don't and won't win. nt Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #41
I think people like Lamb can gain a point or two by saying they wouldn't back her bid, NCTraveler Apr 2018 #24
Bless your heart, Kirk Lover. Speakers aren't elected by voters. Hortensis Apr 2018 #30
Made Me Smile Me. Apr 2018 #32
Thank you for that but I realize that the Speaker of the House is not elected directly by voters... Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #40
They hate her because she is effective and a woman WhiteTara Apr 2018 #8
Polarizing - use of a republican frame Cosmocat Apr 2018 #9
Thank you!!! Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2018 #19
Yep - that is another one Cosmocat Apr 2018 #22
Using that word makes it seem like the person is at fault, doesn't it? mcar Apr 2018 #37
Republicans are running on fear and sexism gratuitous Apr 2018 #14
And also racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia and xenophobia. Initech Apr 2018 #21
And Hillary matt819 Apr 2018 #27
Yeah Go Ahead Beat Up On The Woman Again Me. Apr 2018 #31
Nancy Pelosi is a redumbliCON boogiewoman. democratisphere Apr 2018 #33
She's the replacement for Hillary Clinton... kentuck Apr 2018 #34
Shame on anyone on the left for falling for it mcar Apr 2018 #38
Republicans identify targets IluvPitties Apr 2018 #35
Pugs......... MyOwnPeace Apr 2018 #39

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,437 posts)
1. Republicans hate her not only because she is a woman
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 10:39 AM
Apr 2018

but also because she is an EFFECTIVE woman who is clearly above their intelligence and capability levels and knows how to constantly outmaneuver them- even in the minority. Any Democrats declaring her to be a "liability" or an "anchor" on the party solely because of the Republican opposition to her and seeking to replace her as ML for simply that reason alone need to hang their heads in shame IMHO.

SWBTATTReg

(22,166 posts)
5. Senator Claire McK. is a good rep here in MO...
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 10:53 AM
Apr 2018

I think the world of her, and she seems to give all to the veterans and all Missourians. I plan on supporting her in her re-election efforts this year, a worthy case indeed.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
11. She is terrific.
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 10:58 AM
Apr 2018

I’m in California, so major-office-holder-wise, things are pretty good (so far) here.

SWBTATTReg

(22,166 posts)
13. Lucky you, and may it continue...
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 11:05 AM
Apr 2018

One doesn't know the value of a person in office until they have been there for some time, so folks can get a sense of what the office holder is truly like. Often times, a person portraying themselves as something else in order to win office (and the portrayal is nothing in reality to what they are really like) is a faker (like RUMP) and has pulled the wool over the eyes of their voters.

Perhaps w/ the very ineffective repug-controlled Congress now in plain sight of all to see, that voters will truly see them for the hypocrites that they truly are.

I think along w/ RUMP, voters are seeing repugs in their true colors finally, and it is Ugly.

Take care!

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
6. Republican leaders, in contrast, just pretend to hate her so the rubes will.
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 10:53 AM
Apr 2018

The GOP has only mythology to sell poison with.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,437 posts)
7. Yup, that too
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 10:55 AM
Apr 2018

They have to keep dipping into their bag of tricks to keep their base angry and upset and voting against Democrats (and their own interests).

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
20. And they know Dems often fall all over ourselves trying to make ourselves pleasing to Republicans
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 01:59 PM
Apr 2018

and if that means jettisoning our finest, strongest and most effective leaders because Republicans don’t like them, so be it.

Jeez ...

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. I can't agree with that at all and only wonder how this thread about
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 02:28 PM
Apr 2018

Nancy Pelosi of all people lead to that indictment of our party.

Orsino's observation is that that many of the Republicans who work with Nancy do not believe what they tell their voters. The smarter and more competent ones who know what it is to be smart and competent, of course.

mcar

(42,372 posts)
36. I will never understand why some fall for this
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 03:56 PM
Apr 2018

ooh, Republicans are saying mean things about Pelosi. We need to replace her!!11

dubyadiprecession

(5,722 posts)
2. We need new leadership in the house.
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 10:39 AM
Apr 2018

The thought of Pelosi being the next speaker of the house might help turnout for republicans this fall.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
23. lol. Yeah. That's it.
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 02:19 PM
Apr 2018

They won't use her likeness if they think she isn't running again.

THEY ARE GOING TO RUN AGAINST CLINTON!

Of course they are going to run against Pelosi.

"The thought of Pelosi being the next speaker of the house might help turnout for republicans this fall."

That has to be a joke.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. Whatever you've been reading, perhaps it's way past
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 02:35 PM
Apr 2018

time to wonder WHY it's telling you we should toss out our experienced leaders in the middle of battle.

Just put down their weapons and say no to the Russians, duby. Also to the Dark-Money kleptocrats, the left wing radicals who covet our party and power, and of course the Republicans.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
29. "the left wing radicals who covet our party and power,"
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 02:42 PM
Apr 2018


"..covet our party and power"

There it is. Thank you
 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
4. I think that Dem's should just continue to say they won't vote for her and they can
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 10:48 AM
Apr 2018

take this "issue" AWAY from stupid Republicans. This is all they fucking run on...it's pathetic.

I'm sorry but Nancy may have to be a sacrificial lamb of sorts and I'm sure she's OK with it if that means winning.
Politics folks, politics.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,437 posts)
10. Democrats should NOT denounce or run away from her
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 10:58 AM
Apr 2018

Are Republicans doing that to Paul Ryan or Mitch McConnell even though they are vile and horrible excuses for human beings? And we have even more REAL justification for disliking them than they do for disliking Pelosi. We have NO reason to be ashamed of Nancy Pelosi.

R B Garr

(16,975 posts)
12. +1000, it is just absurd to suggest Pelosi should go
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 11:04 AM
Apr 2018

away because...Republicans. These thin anti-Dem narratives are so absurd it is just impossible to take them seriously.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
17. I mean in red areas only that we need to flip. These Dem's are disarming the
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 01:28 PM
Apr 2018

Republican's ...it's nothing personal Nancy but it's dirty politics. Do I like it ...no. I personally have the utmost respect for Speaker Pelosi and always stick up for her.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,437 posts)
18. I get what you're saying
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 01:56 PM
Apr 2018

Last edited Mon Apr 23, 2018, 06:01 PM - Edit history (1)

It just sucks to watch. I feel like it makes us look like wimps or that we have something to feel ashamed about when the Republicans are the ones whom *should* be completely ashamed about *their* leaders.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
24. I think people like Lamb can gain a point or two by saying they wouldn't back her bid,
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 02:21 PM
Apr 2018

I think it is a good strategy in some places. Elections are local.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
30. Bless your heart, Kirk Lover. Speakers aren't elected by voters.
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 02:42 PM
Apr 2018

A lot of people share that misunderstanding.

Speakers are elected on merit by their admiring colleagues, each of whom has a tremendous interest in choosing a strong speaker to help accomplish what he or she came to achieve. And very unlike the authoritarian Republican Party, our lack of a central authoritarian structure and the competition that encourages keeps quality of genuine contenders high.

Here's a link to Amazon, with suggestions for a number of books that explain the basics of the legislative process and other governmental functions.

https://www.amazon.com/Politics-Dummies-Ann-DeLaney/dp/0764508873

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
40. Thank you for that but I realize that the Speaker of the House is not elected directly by voters...
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 08:41 PM
Apr 2018

Not sure how you got that from my post.

And if you really want to be helpful to someone...just be helpful and can your bless your heart shit.

Cosmocat

(14,572 posts)
9. Polarizing - use of a republican frame
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 10:57 AM
Apr 2018

Lets be clear what polarizing means - it is when republicans lose their minds and scream bloody murder about someone, most often 95% of it being complete made up or gross distortions.

"Polarizing" is a term republican talking heads use, and the media obediently parrots, to make it seem like that person is doing something wrong/has something wrong with them, to get the dirt off of the republicans hands.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,437 posts)
19. Thank you!!!
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 01:57 PM
Apr 2018

Just like the way they used to describe- in Republican terms- how "divisive" President Obama allegedly was when he was in the WH. We know what that was really based on.

Cosmocat

(14,572 posts)
22. Yep - that is another one
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 02:15 PM
Apr 2018

divisive ... Again, republicans loosing their $hit over them, not anything they actually do or say.

mcar

(42,372 posts)
37. Using that word makes it seem like the person is at fault, doesn't it?
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 03:59 PM
Apr 2018

I hate when the media uses it. Like when was President Obama ever polarizing?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
14. Republicans are running on fear and sexism
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 11:07 AM
Apr 2018

What else does anyone expect? That they run on their record of the past two years? Excuse me while I

Initech

(100,102 posts)
21. And also racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia and xenophobia.
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 02:06 PM
Apr 2018

So yeah they're stirring up the base as usual!

matt819

(10,749 posts)
27. And Hillary
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 02:37 PM
Apr 2018

And Dems need to have a unified response to these obsessions. Hillary hasn’t held elected office since 2009 and has not been a cabinet secretary since 2013. And yet she’ll be the focus of this election season and most to come, probably even after she’s dead. We need to have a response that dismisses these obsessions and mocks the rw for having them.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
31. Yeah Go Ahead Beat Up On The Woman Again
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 02:52 PM
Apr 2018

You cowards. It must really bite that she beats you at your own game and does a job Ryan can't.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
34. She's the replacement for Hillary Clinton...
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 03:02 PM
Apr 2018

Her name gets out their base. They hate her with a passionate irrational hatred.

IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
35. Republicans identify targets
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 03:04 PM
Apr 2018

and turn them into boogeypeople. George Soros, Hillary, Obama, Holder, Ginsburg, Pelosi, etc.

MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
39. Pugs.........
Mon Apr 23, 2018, 05:01 PM
Apr 2018

run on fear & hate - entirely negative. You get the votes by hating somebody.

Dems must run on a PLAN - a vision for the future with strong leadership - the kind that Nancy Pelosi knows and understands.

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