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kentuck

(111,110 posts) Tue Apr 24, 2018, 06:59 PM Apr 2018

Does Mueller already have evidence of "collusion"...

It was reported earlier on MSNBC that Mueller wanted to search Manaforts documents, etc, for evidence about the meeting in Trump Tower with the Russians, Manafort, Don Jr, and Jared Kushner. Manafort had reportedly taken notes during the meeting. Do you think Mueller would have any other evidence of "collusion"? Also, Manafort has gone to Court to prevent some documents from being considered evidence in this investigation? What's that about?

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Does Mueller already have evidence of "collusion"... (Original Post) kentuck Apr 2018 OP

Just the information out in the press Johonny Apr 2018 #1

It is clear that if rump was a democrat, and I mean this without my usual exaggeration Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #2

That's a fact. Crutchez_CuiBono Apr 2018 #6

Manafort's attorneys are trying to get out of it by saying that tje FBI BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #3

If you just go by the reports and rumors in the news marylandblue Apr 2018 #4

Mueller has a great deal more evidence of collusion. Some was outlined pnwmom Apr 2018 #5

Johonny

(20,889 posts)

1. Just the information out in the press

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 07:02 PM

Apr 2018

Is amazingly damning. I can't imagine what he has that isn't publicly available.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)

2. It is clear that if rump was a democrat, and I mean this without my usual exaggeration

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 07:02 PM

Apr 2018

there would be enough evidence at this point for collusion, obstruction of justice and maybe treason.

Among other things like money laundering etc.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)

6. That's a fact.

Reply to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 07:49 PM

Apr 2018

BigmanPigman

(51,630 posts)

3. Manafort's attorneys are trying to get out of it by saying that tje FBI

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 07:06 PM

Apr 2018

broke into his house/condo illegally. Apparently the FBI did knock on his door, they got no answer so they picked the lock and entered. At that point Manafort, who was already up, "ran into the FBI in his hallway". This sounds like he is trying to split hairs to get out of trouble. OK, good luck with that traitor!

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)

4. If you just go by the reports and rumors in the news

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 07:08 PM

Apr 2018

There are multiple suspicious interactions between many Trump campaign officials and Russian intelligence. Like that Trump Tower meeting, these contacts may be documented in notes, emails, travel records and electronic intelligence. I think Mueller has a lot of that evidence already, enough to get a search warrant at least, and he wanted to see what he could add to his collection. Manafort wants to suppress that evidence the way a drug dealer wants to suppress the 50 pounds of cocaine police found in his house.

pnwmom

(108,995 posts)

5. Mueller has a great deal more evidence of collusion. Some was outlined

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2018, 07:12 PM

Apr 2018

in the case against the attorney Van der Zwaan. But in addition to Manafort, I bet he's got evidence of collusion with Carter Page, through the FISA warrant, and others, too.

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