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There are now TWO online petitions to get Joy Reid fired! There are ZERO supporting her! (Original Post) hlthe2b Apr 2018 OP
WHAT THE FUCK onecaliberal Apr 2018 #1
The GOP/Russian sharks workinclasszero Apr 2018 #2
First Al Franken. democratisphere Apr 2018 #3
They are scared shitless of the approaching workinclasszero Apr 2018 #7
Agreed workinclasszero! democratisphere Apr 2018 #13
Why don't you create one? It'll be just as meaningless as these two... brooklynite Apr 2018 #4
Your earlier thread is so misinformed, but it clearly doesn't matter to you, so welcome hlthe2b Apr 2018 #6
Feel free to elaborate. I can take it... brooklynite Apr 2018 #9
Thanks for helping them do their dirty work. peabody Apr 2018 #26
By pointing out that a feel-good online petition will have no impact, I'm doing their dirty work... brooklynite Apr 2018 #30
And how do you know it's going to have no impact? peabody Apr 2018 #32
Name an online petition that ever HAS had an impact. brooklynite Apr 2018 #38
Here are online petitions that resulted in victories for change.org. peabody Apr 2018 #45
As someone who's twitter account was once hacked kcr Apr 2018 #40
Now that's fucked up!! We shouldn't let Joy be Frankened. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #5
Call msnbc comment line WhiteTara Apr 2018 #8
THIS Please all who see this, do! hlthe2b Apr 2018 #10
+1, there's no evidence that Reid is anti gay ... this is some BS uponit7771 Apr 2018 #12
Well there are the blog posts she apologized for in December mythology Apr 2018 #17
She's still not anti-gay, she could've been inartful & not anti. If inartful is bar then there are uponit7771 Apr 2018 #19
Her apology scenario is not inconsistent with one in which an imposter altered her blog. Marcuse Apr 2018 #24
Yeah, and in the past I made anti-gay remarks also. FuzzyRabbit Apr 2018 #25
Bingo! peabody Apr 2018 #28
I just called the number and got a person EffieBlack Apr 2018 #15
That's the Universal Switchboard WhiteTara Apr 2018 #16
They switched me to the Viewer Caller line and I got the recording and pushed 8 EffieBlack Apr 2018 #20
Change.org keeps asking me for help...I told them no... not after this. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #11
Thank you for that.. how nice they're Cha Apr 2018 #36
I am done with these purity groups. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #39
Lord, save us from liberal Democrats EffieBlack Apr 2018 #14
Al Franken says hi Thrill Apr 2018 #18
I wish. I adore Al Franken and adamently argued with those pushing for his resignation. Your point? hlthe2b Apr 2018 #21
There is a need to get rid of her like Franken, their big smart mouths.... Historic NY Apr 2018 #22
Even President Obama opposed gay marriage up until around 2013. Blue_true Apr 2018 #33
Nobody even knows who Joy Ann Reid is! Anybody can make a stupid petition up. Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #23
The first one is about Bernie Sanders underthematrix Apr 2018 #27
The Bernie Bots are out for her. peabody Apr 2018 #29
The common denominator is always aggrieved white people underthematrix Apr 2018 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author Cha Apr 2018 #37
Ask AL FRANKEN MFM008 Apr 2018 #34
Here's the number and email to msnbc if you want Joy to keep her job.. Cha Apr 2018 #35
These polls are meaningless Gothmog Apr 2018 #41
Interesting who started the two petitions: OneGrassRoot Apr 2018 #42
I haven't really been following this much because I have been busy with work. smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #43
There's a lot of confusion... OneGrassRoot Apr 2018 #44
Thank you for that. It clears up a lot. smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #46
Damn, and they picked an ugly, if not photoshopped, picture of her to include in that article. George II Apr 2018 #47
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
7. They are scared shitless of the approaching
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 11:07 PM
Apr 2018

Blue wave elections.

And seeing as how Putin’s puppet has left the USA wide open for attack from Russian troll farms...

Yeah GOP traitors are gonna pull out all the stops to keep Bone Spurs dictatorship alive.

Count on that!

brooklynite

(94,624 posts)
4. Why don't you create one? It'll be just as meaningless as these two...
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 11:04 PM
Apr 2018

Online "petitions" have no influence on business decisions like this.

hlthe2b

(102,304 posts)
6. Your earlier thread is so misinformed, but it clearly doesn't matter to you, so welcome
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 11:06 PM
Apr 2018

to ignore....

brooklynite

(94,624 posts)
30. By pointing out that a feel-good online petition will have no impact, I'm doing their dirty work...
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 12:05 AM
Apr 2018

...Thanks for making that clear.

peabody

(445 posts)
32. And how do you know it's going to have no impact?
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 12:25 AM
Apr 2018

If this issue continues, more people might sign the petition and if MSNBC then decides it's no longer in their interest to keep her we lose another liberal to a smear campaign.

brooklynite

(94,624 posts)
38. Name an online petition that ever HAS had an impact.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 07:13 AM
Apr 2018

If this is a concern to you, write an actual message in your own words and send it to MSNBC.

peabody

(445 posts)
45. Here are online petitions that resulted in victories for change.org.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 11:24 AM
Apr 2018

So don’t tell me they have no impact. Thanks for doing the Right’s dirty work for them.

[link:https://www.change.org/victories|

kcr

(15,317 posts)
40. As someone who's twitter account was once hacked
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 09:56 AM
Apr 2018

which as you attested in another thread that means I'm someone very important, I can confidently say as an important person that online petitions are highly significant. Everyone knows the hard to hack internet makes it so, right? As you say, hacking is so incredibly difficult. Internet lends legitimacy! Why would you question an internet petition?

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
5. Now that's fucked up!! We shouldn't let Joy be Frankened.
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 11:04 PM
Apr 2018

Let people know if someone puts up a link in support.

WhiteTara

(29,719 posts)
8. Call msnbc comment line
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 11:07 PM
Apr 2018

Here's the number
MSNBC
- Phone: 1-212-664-4444 EMAIL: letters@msnbc.com Press 8 to comment on Joy's show

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
17. Well there are the blog posts she apologized for in December
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 11:23 PM
Apr 2018

The ones were she called Charlie Crist Miss Charlie and called him closeted. It's kind of awkward for the people saying she could never say anything homophobic when she's apologized for doing exactly that.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
19. She's still not anti-gay, she could've been inartful & not anti. If inartful is bar then there are
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 11:25 PM
Apr 2018

... plenty of dem politicians who would be 100% bigoted.

Marcuse

(7,493 posts)
24. Her apology scenario is not inconsistent with one in which an imposter altered her blog.
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 11:46 PM
Apr 2018

Both could be true.

FuzzyRabbit

(1,967 posts)
25. Yeah, and in the past I made anti-gay remarks also.
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 11:53 PM
Apr 2018

Prior to 1984 I was somewhat anti-gay. Now I am not. But because I was in the past does that mean I can no longer participate in public discourse?

peabody

(445 posts)
28. Bingo!
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 11:58 PM
Apr 2018

People want to hang her on something that may or may not be true years ago. Clearly she not anti-gay today seems to make no difference to these short sighted people. It's just so damn easy to sucker Democrats into eating their own.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
20. They switched me to the Viewer Caller line and I got the recording and pushed 8
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 11:26 PM
Apr 2018

I was just surprised to get a live person!

hlthe2b

(102,304 posts)
21. I wish. I adore Al Franken and adamently argued with those pushing for his resignation. Your point?
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 11:28 PM
Apr 2018

I'm not following

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
22. There is a need to get rid of her like Franken, their big smart mouths....
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 11:34 PM
Apr 2018

Archive & Wayback still can't quite explain different sources that backed up her info. But then again its always a rush to judgement.

"At least some of the examples of allegedly fraudulent posts provided to us had been archived at different dates and by different entities."
What does this mean? Everything is fallible to believe otherwise is stupid.

In 2005 when BrokeBack Mtn. came out in the movies what was the majority position in the US about LBGT? I'd venture a guess a good portion of the people with the petitions weren't even able to go see the movie. People seem to forget a lot of this stuff from Crist, etc was out in the new and in print. We had the intern scandal with the Florida Congressman. Majority of US opposed gay marriage.



Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
33. Even President Obama opposed gay marriage up until around 2013.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 12:36 AM
Apr 2018

People grow and change. I have always been supportive of gay people because a brother was gay and I saw from an early age that he did not make that choice and that he faced abuse and struggles that I did not face. But I admit that even I had to evolve to accept and support Trans people, even with my personal background with a gay brother.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
23. Nobody even knows who Joy Ann Reid is! Anybody can make a stupid petition up.
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 11:42 PM
Apr 2018

Not sure why everybody is going crazy..this "story" that most of America will never hear about will be gone shortly.

That's it...I'm done with this topic. Trashing all threads...this is not important.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
27. The first one is about Bernie Sanders
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 11:56 PM
Apr 2018
We feel that Joy Reid creates division with her tweets and broadcasts. We feel that she's no longer reporting news, but rather using your organization as a springboard to launch an unwarrented attack on Bernie Sanders and his over 14,000,000 voters. In a climate that is already tense, we feel her repeated comments threaten the delicate balance we're trying to form left of center to eventually take on republicans in 2018 and beyond. There's simply no room for such condescending rhetoric in our living rooms anymore.


The second one is about the LGTBQ community.

Aren't many of Joy's guest LGTBQ?

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
31. The common denominator is always aggrieved white people
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 12:15 AM
Apr 2018

These people are attacking the only black female journalist with an MSNBC show.

The same people are outraged by the allegations against Dr. Jackson without asking why none of these complaining witnesses never filed an anonymous complaint with the state medical licensing board or the DEA or OIG. No one is asking why the alcohol and drug allegations didn't appear in the 2012 OIG report. No one is asking how he managed to pass an FBI background check in 2017 after two driving related incidents in 2013 and 2016.

I think the Trump White House wanted to get rid of him and destroy him for a reason unrelated to the current allegations.



Response to underthematrix (Reply #27)

MFM008

(19,818 posts)
34. Ask AL FRANKEN
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 04:29 AM
Apr 2018

About set ups.
Also how stupid some of us act by
Arguing among each other about their lies
About some of our best people.
Whos next?
Rachel?

Cha

(297,366 posts)
35. Here's the number and email to msnbc if you want Joy to keep her job..
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 04:34 AM
Apr 2018


MSNBC
- Phone: 1-212-664-4444 the Universal switchboard will answer, ask for msnbc comment line and press 8 for Joy Reid's show.

EMAIL: letters@msnbc.com

White Tara https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=10540404

Thank you, hlthe2b

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
42. Interesting who started the two petitions:
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 10:07 AM
Apr 2018

One has a pic of the person who started the petition, and she's wearing a Bernie shirt.

The other was started by a Mikey Amman. Twitter account suspended. But a Google search reflects use of various Bernie-related hashtags.

People with legitimate concerns about this issue exist but it does seem to be a coordinated attack.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
43. I haven't really been following this much because I have been busy with work.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 10:14 AM
Apr 2018

Who is attacking her? Is it liberals/progressives/Bernie Bros or is it republicans/Russian Trolls. I still don't quite understand what she did that was so horrible since I don't really have the time to go looking for it right now, but maybe I will look into it more deeply over the weekend.

From what I can tell, from what little I know about it, the whole thing just seems completely blown out of proportion.

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
44. There's a lot of confusion...
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 10:58 AM
Apr 2018

and that may be by design.

I can't say I'm clear about any of it either. She wrote things years ago, mainly referencing Charlie Crist from what I can tell, which had comments disparaging about gay men. She apologized for those.

Suddenly new blog posts, supposedly from a decade ago, have gotten attention, but she disputes she wrote them and says they were hacked. Similar to the gun debates, terminology is being pulled into things to confuse the issue even more, all under the guise of clarity and education, of course. (Yeah, that was snarky...I'm agitated right now...lol.)

She has hired a cyber expert (his credentials and connections to unsavory characters immediately came under attack) and an attorney; I read this morning that the FBI is now involved.

Joan Walsh worked with Joy at Salon for many years before the MSNBC gig and stood up for her, saying the allegedly hacked blogs don't sound like the Joy Reid she knows; plus, her editorial team and readers would have jumped all over such content. The blogs in question have no comments, which is what makes it very odd.

As to who is doing the attacking, it's the Greenwalds and Breitbarts and at least some of the BernieBro contingent.

There's also a new term for many of us that arose yesterday: Black propaganda. Malcolm Nance explained that it's when existing content is used but falsehoods are interspersed in it via hacking, as well as wholesale fake content of course. Dealing with a base of truth (in this case the fact that Joy admitted to and apologized for language used many years ago in her blogs), those wanting to destroy make their fake news seem plausible by superimposing it on grains of truth.

Hope that makes sense. There are tons of links about the above but I'm too pooped to find them.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
46. Thank you for that. It clears up a lot.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:18 PM
Apr 2018

I am checking in to DU here and there but I have been in a lot of meetings and am busy at work, so I haven't really been able to keep up. This was very helpful! It makes a lot of sense.

George II

(67,782 posts)
47. Damn, and they picked an ugly, if not photoshopped, picture of her to include in that article.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 06:49 PM
Apr 2018

That's right wing tactic.

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