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louis c

(8,652 posts)
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 09:41 AM Apr 2018

I have more contempt for people who voted for Jill Stein than Donald Trump

I can only give you anecdotal evidence, but I am involved extensively in politics.

The demographic group of white males over 50 without a college degree overwhelmingly are Trump supporters when we talk politics. They have Conservative views on immigration (more like radical, bigoted views), on guns, civil rights and on gay rights. They talk like bigots, act like bigots, so one can draw their own conclusion. "I like Donald Trump because he says things other people are thinking". My response is always "Ya, if you think like a racist." I get very little connection. As despicable as these people are, they voted for a person who thinks just like them and speaks to their paranoia, ignorance and anger.

But Jill Stein voters knew better. "I could never have voted for Trump, but I didn't like Hilary". That's such a stupid statement from fairly intelligent people. They like Jill Stein? These are mostly the demographic of some college or more. People with a Liberal bent. People who should know what a binary choice is. I have less patience with them than I do Trump supporters. A Trump supporter is hopeless, so I can walk away. Yet, a Jill Stein supporter can be persuaded and shown the error of their ways. I go into the historic explanation of Otto Wels. A dry as dust, typical politician representing the incumbent party in 1932 Germany. Many people voted for the minor party candidates, and Adolf Hitler won the last legitimate election held in Germany until the end of World War II. Sometimes we make a "binary choice", because all it takes for evil to prosper is for good men (and women) to do nothing. And voting for that no good lying, Kremlin stooge Jill Stein was like doing nothing in the general election of 2016.

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elocs

(22,588 posts)
1. Here in Wisconsin, Stein's vote total closely matched Trump's popular vote victory margin.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 09:52 AM
Apr 2018

But I guess they taught us all all a lesson, didn't they?

elocs

(22,588 posts)
5. Wanting to vote and having your vote suppressed is not the same as choosing to vote for Stein
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 10:41 AM
Apr 2018

who was never going to be anything more than a spoiler and was here in Wisconsin.
But there were certainly those who could have cast a vote and chose not to do so which frequently happens with the Left in midterm elections and was a big reason in the 2010 midterm election here in Wisconsin when the state flipped from total Democratic control to Republican control because Republican voters turned out and those on the Left did not.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
8. you don't get to claim to believe in democracy and be unhappy about people not voting for Clinton
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 12:43 PM
Apr 2018

who would've won Wisconsin without the voter suppression.

elocs

(22,588 posts)
10. Well, it's really too bad you don't know that much about Wisconsin.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 06:40 PM
Apr 2018

And I do get to believe in democracy and be unhappy about people on the Left not being smart enough to realize that the next president was going to be either Trump or Clinton, that's it.
Such a simple concept since we don't live in a European parliamentary system.

Aristus

(66,409 posts)
3. The face-punchable smugness of third party voters is as impenetrable as the
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 10:19 AM
Apr 2018

bigotry of the Trumpanzees.

They claim that 'both parties are corrupt, man', and they vote to ensure that the vastly more-corrupt party gets into power. It just doesn't compute...

elocs

(22,588 posts)
6. But aren't 3rd party voters so righteous and noble? Just ask them and they will tell you so. n/t
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 10:42 AM
Apr 2018
 

TheSmarterDog

(794 posts)
7. Stein voters looked at Trump & Clinton and saw *Trump* as the lesser of two evils.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 10:49 AM
Apr 2018

That makes them hopeless in my book.

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