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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsData Mining for Scandal or Retribution - Joy Reid Is a Victim of This
It happens. People who want something to pin on someone now have incredible tools to dig out everything that person has written on the Internet. It's all out there, and searchable. Even long-gone websites can be searched since pretty much everything written on the web has been archived carefully.
Worse, context is not often considered when someone wants to damage another person's reputation. Simply by quoting some words written long ago, but by leaving out the context, it can be claimed that that person is an awful human being with thoughts that every decent person should condemn.
In today's unforgiving political environment, finding and publicizing even a few out-of-context or even fake writings can overwhelm even a huge body of current writings. We're very quick to throw people under the bus these days for something they may or may not have said or written 10 or 15 years ago. We'll gleefully ignore mountains of good work toward progress to destroy people.
It's a shame. Many people have felt the weight of such negative data mining. No amount of explanation or presentation of surrounding context will repair the damage in many cases. No apologies for old words are enough. Old words can destroy a person, especially if they are presented publicly by those who devoutly wish to destroy a person and who are less than honorable.
All a person being attacked can do is to hope the situation improves with time. All that person can do is continue to do whatever it is they are doing that is good and hope people will recognize that out-of-context statements made in the past should not be the measure of anyone. Hoping for balance and reasonable consideration is the only defense, really.
Many people have had such things happen to them. The more outspoken they are, the more likely they have, at one time or another, said or written things they might regret or that could be used against them if the context is removed. All one can do is continue on a current path and hope for the best.
It has happened to me. It can happen to anyone. It could happen to you.
leftstreet
(36,109 posts)It doesn't really matter what did or didn't happen at this point
Apparently FOX news itself is now all over this
Strategically, she is becoming a liability - which is odd given that prior to this no one in the real world had even heard of her
MineralMan
(146,318 posts)It's a pity. It might even succeed.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)There's absolutely no reason to believe that those blog posts, which were captured by the Internet Archive in 2005, 2006, 2007, and have dates of archival near-contemporary with their posting, were "hacked"; nor is there any reason to believe that the text in any of the screenshots of said posts was deliberately manipulated (when those posts are viewable through various web archives).
leftstreet
(36,109 posts)first with homophobic slurs (which apparently people forgave) and now with evidently lying about dubious time-traveling hackers
You make good points about deliberate campaigns to destroy the credibility of politicians and media figures. We've seen it a million times. But in this case, it's game over anyway
R B Garr
(16,955 posts)It is a very transparent strategy.
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R B Garr
(16,955 posts)So utterly transparent.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)R B Garr
(16,955 posts)Talk about slinging crap...
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)I did vote for Bernie in the primary and while I dont have cable or watch MSNBC I do recall interviews and other snippets from Joy Reid sniping at Berniei his wife, and supporter being posted here. However I don't really care about that. Regarding her past admitted homophobic comments, that is between her, Her employer and her listeners to judge and weigh in on. If she is not being truthful about her blog being retroactively hacked, that is a matter of journalistic integrity. Personally I don't sign petitions to get people fired and I am no more or less inclined to watch her because of this .
Sunsky
(1,737 posts)Who made you the authority on who can and cannot speak for Democrats? Who cares what Faux noise is reporting?
"prior to this no one in the real world had even heard of her"... that statement is laughable at best. Now let me get back to my fake/alternate world
tulipsandroses
(5,124 posts)Yesterday, she was just someone that had a Sunday show, despite her huge online following. Now no one in the real world knows her. Despite her being featured in a major magazine next month by the way -
Someone said most blacks don't know her - Do they know about Black Twitter.LOL - Did they know about her Beef with Rapper Killer Mike and his appearance on NRA TV and how that played out on black media?
Sunsky
(1,737 posts)I guess we just live in an imaginary world, where Joy-Ann Reid is a known television host and has a huge following on social media
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irisblue
(32,996 posts)Do you seriously mean that?
HipChick
(25,485 posts)She has a large following of black women support - G/L with another 4 yrs of Trump and his shenanigans..Blue Wave is likely to be a tiny spray instead...
Demsrule86
(68,607 posts)Are you saying if the Sanders supporters (some ) and the right wing are able to destroy Joy Black women won't vote for Democrats? Clarify please.
Demsrule86
(68,607 posts)anything since Franken...of course most Sanders supporters hate Joy...not saying you do.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)TheSmarterDog
(794 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Why go with the "my blog was hacked" excuse?
TheSmarterDog
(794 posts)It's not like it doesn't happen every day to thousands of people. Reid detractors are treating the explanation as if she was blaming space aliens, or ghosts.
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mythology
(9,527 posts)Anthony Weiner claimed to be hacked for example. Let's see her evidence.
TheSmarterDog
(794 posts)But then, some idiots think that itself is a sign of guilt.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)TheSmarterDog
(794 posts)Also, none of her followers remember them, none of her editors remember them, they don't match her expressed views at the time, they have no replies, she was on the air working when they were supposedly posted, they're not written in the same style as she used, they used different wording, etc etc etc.
For the RW "Joy is evil" narrative to be true, literally *ALL* of the people she's dealt with during that time would have had to have collective amnesia about these specific unusual, offensive & out of character posts & no others.
This whole thing is a set up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=10&v=ioBhGmfYDKo
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Nor does anything you've written here include evidence of hacking.
Also, she has apologized for past homophobic blog posts.
If you read through The Reid Report blog from 2005, the post from March that contains homophobic content actually has exactly the same style, wording, etc. as the other blog posts from that time (none of which have replies).
My take is - she should have just apologized and moved on. The hacking claim seems pretty dubious.
TheSmarterDog
(794 posts)Including LBGT people. Including people who knew her at the time the posts were supposedly created. Including members of DU.
And on the other side there's Fox News, Brietbart, Wikileaks & Glen Greenwald. None of whom I'd trust to keep my fake houseplants alive for a week.
And you're going with the other side?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Here's the Huffington Post:
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/joy-reid-blog-post-hacking_us_5ae0ae7ee4b02baed1b593b6
I share the skepticism.
If Joy Reid had given the same statement with respect to these posts that she gave to her previous ones, I would have happily accepted that and moved on.
TheSmarterDog
(794 posts)That article is just a re-hash of the original story pushed by Fox News, Breitbart, Wikileaks & Glen Greenwald.
IT'S A SET UP!!!
Get your head out of your ass.
Demsrule86
(68,607 posts)And again I don't give a damn either way.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Judging a person entirely on limited information about one aspect of their character is unfair and destructive.