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Looks like cyber security experts have already found suspicious activity on the old Joy Blog (Original Post) leftofcool Apr 2018 OP
K&R stonecutter357 Apr 2018 #1
The Repulican scum bags will resort to anything to destroy the nation. olegramps Apr 2018 #35
Help enid602 Apr 2018 #71
That is why they result to anything in their quest. olegramps Apr 2018 #84
Kr Fullduplexxx Apr 2018 #2
K&R HipChick Apr 2018 #3
That's not credible. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #4
yes it is ... stonecutter357 Apr 2018 #5
Yes, it certainly is. leftofcool Apr 2018 #6
The posts in question are archived, with the date of archival within days of posting. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #8
Youre so hung up on the archives that peabody Apr 2018 #13
... BloodSukka Apr 2018 #44
Thanks for explaining that leftstreet Apr 2018 #75
That's not completely correct. fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #78
they weren't archived immediately after posting bigtree Apr 2018 #16
I'm telling you, they were archived immediately after posting Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #19
Don't misunderestimate the deviousness of the internet underworld to take down a TV personality who progressoid Apr 2018 #22
They took down DU and we are a small fish in peabody Apr 2018 #29
Who are they? progressoid Apr 2018 #30
Havent been determined peabody Apr 2018 #45
Russians fescuerescue Apr 2018 #74
Really? progressoid Apr 2018 #77
It's on its way fescuerescue Apr 2018 #81
I guess I missed Skinner's announcement about that. progressoid Apr 2018 #82
huh? fescuerescue Apr 2018 #88
Well, where did you get your information from? progressoid Apr 2018 #89
Same place as everyone else fescuerescue Apr 2018 #90
I dunno treestar Apr 2018 #40
She's a little more highly regarded than you apparently think helmedon1974 Apr 2018 #61
Which brings up a point. Why didn't they go after a bigger fish like Maddow. progressoid Apr 2018 #76
+1000 SkyDaddy7 Apr 2018 #64
That page is now blocked from viewing csziggy Apr 2018 #39
It was blocked by robots.txt Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #41
HostMonster seems to be the host site csziggy Apr 2018 #51
That's one of the posts she claims was "hacked" (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #53
Why..? There's nothing wrong with anything in that post. helmedon1974 Apr 2018 #62
... BloodSukka Apr 2018 #49
Why is it impossible to alter timestamps? n/t pnwmom Apr 2018 #67
Who told you the hack happened in 2007? leftofcool Apr 2018 #17
Good luck with that. OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #28
The blog posts in question were archived between 2005 and 2008. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #32
Time Stamps....hacking Mad_Mongol Apr 2018 #38
The time stamps on the archived copy? Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #43
I thought it was elaborate and implausible that the Russians could hack us too leftofcool Apr 2018 #47
So someone hacked Joy Reid's blog, hacked the Library of Congress archive... Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #48
Out of curiosity, what makes you think none of that has helmedon1974 Apr 2018 #54
No. Not all to take down Joy Reid. As part of a scheme to further disrupt the US, and the people's pnwmom Apr 2018 #69
Archives.... Mad_Mongol Apr 2018 #56
They're on independent servers. One is a Library of Congress server in Arizona in the .gov domain. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #58
The LOC has repositories and archive.org has one. OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #63
Maybe aliens have set up a massive real-time data filter on all internet traffic Azathoth Apr 2018 #66
"Do you have proof that we are receiving bit-identical copies of the data from the server?" OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #72
Yes, I think the servers could have been hacked. It wouldn't be the first time a server pnwmom Apr 2018 #68
You do realize her own expert is at pains not to claim this Azathoth Apr 2018 #70
You are all over the place trying to make Joy Reid guilty aren't you? Maraya1969 Apr 2018 #83
I'm pointing out facts, which a lot of people seem to have an aversion to. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #85
You have over 80 posts in the last day +.5 and they are all anti-Joy Reid Maraya1969 Apr 2018 #86
Sorry for not drinking the kool-aid, I guess? Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #87
Sez who? TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #11
Here, for a start: Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #18
Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #25
Not one bit of that came from Breitbart. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #27
Do they exist in the archives from prior to 5 months ago? Renew Deal Apr 2018 #57
Yes. Ms. Toad Apr 2018 #80
it also apparently exists in multiple versions Ninsianna Apr 2018 #92
... Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #93
Someone please tell the "experts" on the internet mcar Apr 2018 #7
I'd be cautious using Hayley's 2 day old tweet. AncientGeezer Apr 2018 #9
Kick and Rec for all the internet Trump trolls to see. Kingofalldems Apr 2018 #10
I don't know anything about cyberblogs, but this looks ligit. Bonx Apr 2018 #12
This is a repost of the same statement that Reid's one "expert" made days ago Azathoth Apr 2018 #14
The points made are still valid. peabody Apr 2018 #15
No, they aren't Azathoth Apr 2018 #20
Yes they are. peabody Apr 2018 #24
I just linked to a controversial post she made that had no comments Azathoth Apr 2018 #26
I just read that her blog host used Haloscan third party comments link at least till 2008 Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2018 #36
Did they remember or comment on the homophobic Charlie Crist posts? oberliner Apr 2018 #91
What, beyond the LOC, are the "other" archives? OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #33
lol, back to just ask some more questions? Azathoth Apr 2018 #37
Yeah, that was irresponsible of me. OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #42
lol, still just "asking questions" that even Reid's security expert isn't asking Azathoth Apr 2018 #46
You're revealing more than you realize. OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #60
lol, so are you Azathoth Apr 2018 #65
Huh? You don't already know? OilemFirchen Apr 2018 #73
What point? They say there's evidence but none is presented mythology Apr 2018 #23
K&R! orangecrush Apr 2018 #21
That's great, I was hoping this would be the case, but obviously that's not "good enough" for some.. George II Apr 2018 #31
I think this investigation will take some time leftofcool Apr 2018 #34
Hayley has posted twice today on HuffPost that seems to dispute her 2 day old tweet. AncientGeezer Apr 2018 #50
It is under investigation, especially since the blog was dredged up by Assange. leftofcool Apr 2018 #52
I missed the Ass(hole)ange connection...care to share? AncientGeezer Apr 2018 #79
K&R. lunamagica Apr 2018 #55
K&R UCmeNdc Apr 2018 #59
 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
8. The posts in question are archived, with the date of archival within days of posting.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 01:04 PM
Apr 2018

So the "hack" happened in 2007, when Reid had an active blog, and she never noticed that there were posts she hadn't written? Sorry, not buying it.

peabody

(445 posts)
13. Youre so hung up on the archives that
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 01:21 PM
Apr 2018

you fail to take other evidence into account. Why were there no comments? Why doesn’t any of her followers remember them?

BloodSukka

(2 posts)
44. ...
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:29 PM
Apr 2018
"Why doesn’t any of her followers remember them? "
I doubt, that a lot of people actually knew her back then in her blogger days.
-> which makes "a lack of evidence" =/= evidence.

.

+ few people here seem to understand how the Wayback Machine works.

The Wayback Machine is an automated script/robot which visits one homepage after the other, and "safes" its content.
Every time the WbM does that, it saves the new version additionally to the old versions -> if changes were made, someone can see how a homepage changed over time, for example.

when someone looks at a homepage, saved by the WbM, someone can literally brows through history, with the exact dates those "snapshots" of that particular homepage were made.


Administrators of a homepage can prevent the WbM from doing that by adding rules to the homepage, which locks the WbM out.
Which is what they retroactively did... so the WbM had to remove everything.

So, Mrs. Reid & her "cyber security guy" claim, that she/her old blog got hacked.

Okay, let's say this is true that her Blog got hacked. How would that influence the Wayback Machine?

-- hint, it wouldn't.

Hackers, would have had to edit her blog back in the day, to look authentic.
That is the reason, people mock her online with #TimeTravelingHackers.

leftstreet

(36,109 posts)
75. Thanks for explaining that
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 05:06 PM
Apr 2018

With all the speculation and noise going on, no one explains how it actually works

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
78. That's not completely correct.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 06:53 PM
Apr 2018

Chris Butler at the Internet Archives~

“When we reviewed the archives, we found nothing to indicate tampering or hacking of the Wayback Machine versions. At least some of the examples of allegedly fraudulent posts provided to us had been archived at different dates and by different entities.”


They can confirm a page is archived, but they cannot confirm who did it.

bigtree

(85,999 posts)
16. they weren't archived immediately after posting
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 01:25 PM
Apr 2018

...post could be inserted with false dates at any time and picked up at a later date by the Wayback machine.

The Joy Reid Saga: The Wayback Machine cannot guarantee authenticity
https://burningbird.net/the-joy-reid-saga-the-wayback-machine-cannot-guarantee-authenticity/#.WuCS9WkjH4U.twitter

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
19. I'm telling you, they were archived immediately after posting
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 01:28 PM
Apr 2018

you know how I know? Because the Internet Archive has TIMESTAMPS. It shows you the date a page was archived and lets you compare it with later snapshots if there is a revision. See here for instance: https://web.archive.org/web/20070218173925/https://blog.reidreport.com/2007/02/tim-hardaway-is-homophobe-and-so-are.html

progressoid

(49,992 posts)
22. Don't misunderestimate the deviousness of the internet underworld to take down a TV personality who
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 01:39 PM
Apr 2018

is on TV a whopping 4 hours a week. Her political influence is immense!!!






peabody

(445 posts)
45. Havent been determined
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:31 PM
Apr 2018

who exactly brought down DU during the 2016 election but I’m pretty sure if we are a target then so can Joy be.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
88. huh?
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 01:43 PM
Apr 2018

Why we would he announce such a thing?

Clearly you don't believe me. But pretend you do for a moment. Why would someone announce the details of an investigation of a crime committed against you, when doing so would hurt that investigation?

progressoid

(49,992 posts)
89. Well, where did you get your information from?
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 04:20 PM
Apr 2018

You said the Russians took down DU. If Skinner didn't announce that fact, then either you're making a wild-ass guess (like most everyone else on this thread), or you secretly work for the FBI and you just outed yourself with that little nugget of information.
Agent Mike, is that you?

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
90. Same place as everyone else
Sat Apr 28, 2018, 12:32 AM
Apr 2018

It's a forum and we speculate and poke at the other side. Sometimes we exaggerate. I have no inside track...HOWEVER...

I laughed out loud at the Agent Mike suggestion. No I'm not agent Mike. It's been speculated on DU that agent mike is Mike Evanoff. I actually used to work with his brother. (I'm 100% serious and not making a joke here).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Evanoff

Mike's brother (not going to name him), works in private enterprise and we worked in the same dept for a few years.

It's a small world.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
40. I dunno
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:21 PM
Apr 2018

The rabid right is not like that. They don’t let anything go. I am sure they would have the energy to clear every remote corner.

 

helmedon1974

(92 posts)
61. She's a little more highly regarded than you apparently think
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:28 PM
Apr 2018

I'm betting she's being considered for a daily show, since she guest hosts for everybody and she and Maddow get along great....which would make her supposed comments less credibly assigned.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
39. That page is now blocked from viewing
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:20 PM
Apr 2018

Which is interesting in itself.

If the Internet Archive is so certain that it was not hacked why are they blocking it now? In fact they are now blocking all Reid Report blog posts.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
41. It was blocked by robots.txt
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:26 PM
Apr 2018

which means someone added "x-norobots" or something to keep it from showing on the Internet Archive. (Which looks pretty suspicious.) And whoever manages Reid's defunct blog site did it; the Internet Archive did not.

Edit: here it is on an Internet Archive mirror: https://archive.is/SOR69

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
51. HostMonster seems to be the host site
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:48 PM
Apr 2018

They may have gotten tired of attempts to view the original blog post using up their bandwidth for a defunct (as you put it) blog site.

But thanks for the link to a working copy of the page. I'd read that blog post yesterday and don't see how it proves that Joy Reid was ever hopeless homophobic. In that post she is examining the social phenomenon and how people handle it in private and in public:

Keeping it real ... most straight men feel exactly the same way, and would have the exact same reaction to the idea of stripping naked in a sweaty locker room in close quarters with a gay teammate. Most straight people cringe at the sight of two men kissing. Most straight people cringed at the Snickers commercial. Most straight people had a hard time being convinced to watch "Broke Back Mountain." (I admit that I couldn't go see the movie either, despite my sister's ringing endorsement, because I didn't want to watch the two male characters having sex.)

Does that make me homophobic? Probably. And I'm not exactly proud of it. But part of the intrinsic nature of "straightness" is that the idea of homosexual sex is ... well... gross ... even if you think that gay people are perfectly lovely individuals. For the record, I'm sure gay people think straight sex is gross, too, it's just that the nature of political correctness is that gay people are allowed to say straight sex is gross, but the reverse is considered to be patently homophobic.

<SNIP>

Further, as an African-American, you're actually held to an even higher tolerance standard, which may or may not be fair. But as LeBatard himself noted, what Hardaway said probably met with quiet, embarrassed agreement on some level by many other players, who are now looking to their left and right, and perhaps quietly, and uneasily, wondering if the guy showering next to them is sneaking a peek at their naughty bits.

It's not pretty, but it's for real.
https://archive.is/SOR69#selection-641.0-645.35


She did not express the original anit-gay sentiment, she is examining it. Ten, twelve years ago many people were less comfortable with homosexuals than they are now. Most people, as President Obama said, have evolved on the issue and would not be as antagonistic to other people's life styles as Tim Hardaway was in the comments Reid was discussing.

(The other post that was put up yesterday about "lesbian hairstyles" read to me as satirical, not as a anti-lesbian screed. If you want to post a link to that one, I will review it and think about it, too.)

Yes, Joy Reid did say that she was probably homophobic - but that is in the context of someone brought up in a Southern Christian family. I know a lot of people who were taught hatred of "the others" that have grown out of it. My mother was raised by Southern Baptists to hate black people but she grew out of it and worked hard in her community to bring awareness of black history to the town.

Watching Joy Reid today I expect she has grown out of her acknowledged homophobia.

BloodSukka

(2 posts)
49. ...
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:36 PM
Apr 2018

That's not how it works, Team Reid asked the Wayback Machine, that they remove it.
Wayback Machine decline the request.

-> later Team Reid found a loophole, how they themselves were able to retroactivly remove it. By adding rules for robots, if they can access a site.

example. google.com also uses a lot of crawlers to search a homepage... this get's added into their database, which people then can use to find stuff...

and like with the Wayback Machine, homepage administrators can also lock out google crawlers -> so a homepage get's invisible for google.


+ Team Reid DID NOT claim, that the Wayback Machine got hacked. They only say that HER blog got hacked.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
28. Good luck with that.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 01:47 PM
Apr 2018

For some reason, your interlocutor is unwilling to answer that very simple, straightforward question.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
32. The blog posts in question were archived between 2005 and 2008.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 01:50 PM
Apr 2018

Therefore any "hack" would have had to have happened a decade ago or more. If a web archive crawled a page and captured the "hacked" blog post, the archived version would have a timestamp dating to the date of the supposed hack. Not to 2005, or 2006, or 2007. Yet the posts she claims were "hacked" have such timestamps. Therefore either the blog was hacked over a decade ago, the hackers are time-travellers, or the claim is not credible.

Mad_Mongol

(86 posts)
38. Time Stamps....hacking
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:18 PM
Apr 2018

What makes you think a time stamp can't be hacked? It's not like time stamps are block chained, nor were there 2 factor authentication (to my knowledge) for such.


Heck, if I were to smear someone online, the time stamp & metadata for the post/blog would be what I would hack, first.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
43. The time stamps on the archived copy?
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:29 PM
Apr 2018

Because that's what I'm talking about. The date it's archived is recorded. Unless you're claiming those servers were hacked, as well. Which seems awfully elaborate and implausible.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
48. So someone hacked Joy Reid's blog, hacked the Library of Congress archive...
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:36 PM
Apr 2018

and hacked multiple mirrors of the Internet Archive stored on independent servers? All to take down Joy Reid? Really? You think that's plausible?

 

helmedon1974

(92 posts)
54. Out of curiosity, what makes you think none of that has
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:10 PM
Apr 2018

been hacked, could be or would be? What makes you think Joy Reid is or was the only target? I can think of many reasons to hack archives and the Library of Congress. The Pentagon has been hacked, so has the DNC and RNC. So has our power grid and local voter information. Why do you think any of what you say is implausible? This may have been sitting, waiting for an excuse to use it. Joy Reid isn't Rachel Maddow, but with Ingraham and Hannity taking heat and other right wing propagandists losing support it makes sense to go after a rising star if you can. I'll bet Reid is on the verge of getting a daily show and someone doesn't like that. It's bad enough we have a strong, intelligent lesbian dominating 9pm. Imagine a strong, intelligent black woman.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
69. No. Not all to take down Joy Reid. As part of a scheme to further disrupt the US, and the people's
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 04:00 PM
Apr 2018

trust in our systems, including our media.

This could be just the first successful demonstration of an attack like this.

Mad_Mongol

(86 posts)
56. Archives....
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:15 PM
Apr 2018

Are the archives on independent servers or are they members of a Hadoop stack? If they are members on a Hadoop stack (very probable) then modifying one will propagate to ALL.

If you need a primer on what a Hadoop stack, is. Go to the Caringo site www.caringo.com --They provide large volume storage solutions to the National Labs...

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
63. The LOC has repositories and archive.org has one.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:34 PM
Apr 2018

That does not mean that all LOC data are stored on their own servers.

Azathoth

(4,610 posts)
66. Maybe aliens have set up a massive real-time data filter on all internet traffic
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:52 PM
Apr 2018

Maybe they are intercepting the actual page requests and modifying the data in transit to make Reid look like a homophobe. How do we know that the electrons leaving the LOC servers are the same electrons we are receiving? Do you have proof that we are receiving bit-identical copies of the data from the server?

Come to think of it, how do we know that your posts aren't also being filtered by aliens. You could be agreeing with us, but those cunning hackers are intercepting the packets on the wire and modifying the data in transit.

I'm just asking old-fashioned investigative questions here.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
72. "Do you have proof that we are receiving bit-identical copies of the data from the server?"
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 04:29 PM
Apr 2018

No, but you and your traveling companion apparently have proof that we are not.

That's curious, innit?

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
68. Yes, I think the servers could have been hacked. It wouldn't be the first time a server
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:57 PM
Apr 2018

would have been attacked.

And this could be the first of multiple attacks on Democratic or media figures. There's no reason to think this would be a one-off, especially if it is effective.

Azathoth

(4,610 posts)
70. You do realize her own expert is at pains not to claim this
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 04:07 PM
Apr 2018
Nichols insisted that he nor Reid aren't suggesting that the Internet Archive or other archival sites were hacked.

http://money.cnn.com/2018/04/26/media/joy-reid-hacking-fbi-investigation/index.html

But why stop at hacking her blog and all the internet archives. Maybe they have also placed moles in all the major IT companies who have installed filters to capture and modify all internet traffic in real-time to make Reid look bad. I mean, Reid is clearly important enough to be the trial run for a nation state-level cyberattack...

Or she could just be lying.
 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
85. I'm pointing out facts, which a lot of people seem to have an aversion to.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 11:11 AM
Apr 2018

There have been dozens of threads on this, and most of them are uncritical rah-rah-we must support a strong progressive voice nonsense. Sorry for not marching in lockstep.

Maraya1969

(22,486 posts)
86. You have over 80 posts in the last day +.5 and they are all anti-Joy Reid
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 11:13 AM
Apr 2018

You are on a mission and people are noticing.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
87. Sorry for not drinking the kool-aid, I guess?
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 11:24 AM
Apr 2018

If people weren't posting dozens of threads that wilfully ignore easily discoverable facts, then I wouldn't bother.

Response to Spider Jerusalem (Reply #18)

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
27. Not one bit of that came from Breitbart.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 01:46 PM
Apr 2018

And the disputed and claimed-to-be-hacked posts exist in multiple web archives. And were archived over a decade ago.

Ninsianna

(1,349 posts)
92. it also apparently exists in multiple versions
Sat Apr 28, 2018, 02:45 AM
Apr 2018

With the photoshopped ones being the helpful twitterbot's version fed to the right wing smear dude.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
93. ...
Sat Apr 28, 2018, 03:03 AM
Apr 2018
“We have both evidence of fraudulent posts and evidence of screenshot manipulation,” Nichols told The Daily Beast on Wednesday.

Except, that wasn’t quite so.

To support the screenshot forgery allegation, Nichols pointed to six images in the @Jamie_Maz Twitter timeline that he said were definitely not written by Reid nor posted by a hacker, but instead were outright fabricated images of posts that never appeared on the site. “The most obvious one was an instance where—it’s an easy one, it’ll stick in your head— [@Jamie_Maz] says Joy made statements about Eddie Murphy. It’s obviously false, she never made that claim.”

Nichols said those six posts are nowhere to be found in the Internet Archive. But that is not true.

Further searching on the Internet Archive turned up the posts for all six of the screenshots Nichols described as fakes, including the one about Eddie Murphy. The Internet Archive’s records indicate they were retrieved and stored between 2006 and 2009. And all six are exactly as they appear in the screenshots. A random check of other screenshots attributed to the blog produced the same result: None of the images are faked or doctored.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/claims-by-joy-reids-cybersecurity-expert-fall-apart?ref=home?ref=home?ref=home?ref=home
 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
9. I'd be cautious using Hayley's 2 day old tweet.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 01:14 PM
Apr 2018

She has 2 HuffPost articles today....

"Joy Reid’s Hacking Claims Look Increasingly Unlikely
Only a pretty bizarre course of events would have led to those allegedly “fraudulent” homophobic blog posts.
By Hayley Miller"
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/joy-reid-blog-post-hacking_us_5ae0ae7ee4b02baed1b593b6

And...
"Joy Reid Drops Event Appearance Amid Scrutiny Over Hacking Claims
The MSNBC host was supposed to moderate a panel in New York City on Thursday.
By Hayley Miller" which contains this..."This time around, Reid has vehemently denied writing the posts, claiming her blog had been hacked. But as HuffPost reported, only a pretty bizarre course of events would have led to the allegedly fraudulent homophobic blog posts."
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/joy-reid-cancels-event_us_5ae1d916e4b055fd7fc90c67

Azathoth

(4,610 posts)
14. This is a repost of the same statement that Reid's one "expert" made days ago
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 01:21 PM
Apr 2018

It's not a new development, folks.

Azathoth

(4,610 posts)
20. No, they aren't
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 01:34 PM
Apr 2018

It's a jumble of inconsistent theories, like a lawyer trying to create reasonable doubt.

1) There are other archives, including the Library of Congress, that have the timestamped pages, so the claim that they are new fabrications is false.

2) Screenshot manipulation has nothing to do with hacking her website. What that would mean is that someone hacked her site, then waited 12 years to pull up the hacked posts from archives, then took screenshots which he then manipulated digitally. It's nonsensical.

3) Posters here have already uncovered other comment-less posts from Reid's blog that were reposted to DU at the same time. So the silly argument that everything she posted had comments and anything without comments must be a forgery is false.

See here:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=10540836

peabody

(445 posts)
24. Yes they are.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 01:43 PM
Apr 2018

No way these post would not have had comments and people who knew her then don’t remember them. That’s real fishy right there.

Azathoth

(4,610 posts)
26. I just linked to a controversial post she made that had no comments
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 01:45 PM
Apr 2018

A post that was reposted here at DU and discussed so it couldn't have been fabricated later.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
36. I just read that her blog host used Haloscan third party comments link at least till 2008
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:16 PM
Apr 2018

That’s why none of the comments were archived with the blog posts.

One would think the cyber security ‘expert’ would know this.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
91. Did they remember or comment on the homophobic Charlie Crist posts?
Sat Apr 28, 2018, 12:36 AM
Apr 2018

Which she has admitted to making and apologized for?

Azathoth

(4,610 posts)
37. lol, back to just ask some more questions?
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:17 PM
Apr 2018

Archive.today is another. But it's interesting how LOC doesn't seem to be good enough for you.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
42. Yeah, that was irresponsible of me.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:28 PM
Apr 2018

Better to just make assumptions, especially when you and your compatriot have such difficulty with answers.

BTW, archive.is and the LOC got these pages from archive.org.

Any others?*

*Rhetorical

Azathoth

(4,610 posts)
46. lol, still just "asking questions" that even Reid's security expert isn't asking
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:34 PM
Apr 2018

I'll bet you would also believe in the moon landing if someone could just show you some honest proof it happened.

Incidentally, no, the LOC does not come from archive.org. It's a separate installation of the Wayback Machine code.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
60. You're revealing more than you realize.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:24 PM
Apr 2018

As for me, I'm a prisoner of my antiquated investigative style.

Damn you, modern methods!

Azathoth

(4,610 posts)
65. lol, so are you
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:48 PM
Apr 2018

I'm starting to wonder where you were on the days these allegedly hacked posts were made. Do you have an alibi?

I'm just asking old-fashioned investigative questions.

George II

(67,782 posts)
31. That's great, I was hoping this would be the case, but obviously that's not "good enough" for some..
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 01:50 PM
Apr 2018

....right here.

Of course no one on this site has seen the data that the cyber security expert has seen.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
34. I think this investigation will take some time
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:03 PM
Apr 2018

In the mean time, of course, another good Black female journalist has been thrown under the bus by the purity crowd.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
52. It is under investigation, especially since the blog was dredged up by Assange.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:49 PM
Apr 2018

Malcom Nance thinks this is all a hack as well.

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