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niyad

(113,445 posts)
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:12 PM Apr 2018

A Lynching Memorial Is Opening. The Country Has Never Seen Anything Like It.

(the NPR article at the bottom is an absolute must-read, in its entirety)

A Lynching Memorial Is Opening. The Country Has Never Seen Anything Like It.

The National Memorial for Peace and Justice, opening Thursday in Montgomery, Ala., is dedicated to victims of white supremacy.







MONTGOMERY, Ala. — In a plain brown building sits an office run by the Alabama Board of Pardons and Paroles, a place for people who have been held accountable for their crimes and duly expressed remorse.

Just a few yards up the street lies a different kind of rehabilitation center, for a country that has not been held to nearly the same standard.

The National Memorial for Peace and Justice, which opens Thursday on a six-acre site overlooking the Alabama State Capitol, is dedicated to the victims of American white supremacy. And it demands a reckoning with one of the nation’s least recognized atrocities: the lynching of thousands of black people in a decades-long campaign of racist terror.

At the center is a grim cloister, a walkway with 800 weathered steel columns, all hanging from a roof. Etched on each column is the name of an American county and the people who were lynched there, most listed by name, many simply as “unknown.” The columns meet you first at eye level, like the headstones that lynching victims were rarely given. But as you walk, the floor steadily descends; by the end, the columns are all dangling above, leaving you in the position of the callous spectators in old photographs of public lynchings.

The magnitude of the killing is harrowing, all the more so when paired with the circumstances of individual lynchings, some described in brief summaries along the walk: Parks Banks, lynched in Mississippi in 1922 for carrying a photograph of a white woman; Caleb Gadly, hanged in Kentucky in 1894 for “walking behind the wife of his white employer”; Mary Turner, who after denouncing her husband’s lynching by a rampaging white mob, was hung upside down, burned and then sliced open so that her unborn child fell to the ground.

. . . . .

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/25/us/lynching-memorial-alabama.html


Six blacks lynched near Cincinnati among 4,400 named at a new memorial that opens Thursday
Mark Curnutte, mcurnutte@enquirer.com Published 9:25 p.m. ET April 25, 2018 |

The lynchings that killed thousands of people and terrorized generations of blacks in the U.S. are solemnly commemorated in a new memorial in Alabama's capital city. **Warning: Graphic Images** (April 23) AP
News: EJI National Memorial of Peace and Justice


Bearing 4,400 names, the first national memorial to African-American victims of lynching will open Thursday in Montgomery, Alabama. Racial terror was not confined to the Deep South. The National Memorial for Peace and Justice will contain the names of six African-Americans lynched in Greater Cincinnati – two in Butler County and four in Boone County.

Enquirer research found the names of four additional African-Americans lynched in Boone County, along with one black man – Noah Anderson – snatched from law enforcement by a white mob in New Richmond and hanged, this newspaper reported on Aug. 22, 1895, "on the highest poplar tree of Clermont County,"

Seeking to learn which six local names appear in the memorial, The Enquirer provided the names of the 11 local lynching victims to the memorial's creator, the Equal Justice Initiative. Officials at the nonprofit legal and civil rights group, based in the Alabama capital, did not respond.

White lynch mobs killed thousands of people across America during a 70-year period beginning in 1877. The withdrawal that year of the last federal troops from the South ended the formal attempt through Reconstruction to establish racial equality and blacks' rights in the former Confederate states.

. . . . .

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2018/04/25/six-blacks-lynched-near-cincinnati-among-4-400-named-new-national-memorial-peace-justice/513025002/







New Lynching Memorial Is A Space 'To Talk About All Of That Anguish'


Editor's note: This report contains language and an image some may find offensive.

The National Memorial for Peace and Justice, opening Thursday, stands high on a hillside overlooking downtown Montgomery, Ala. Beyond the buildings you can see the winding Alabama River and hear the distant whistle of a train — the nexus that made the city a hub for the domestic slave trade. And that's where the experience begins as visitors encounter a life-size sculpture in bronze of six people in rusting shackles, including a mother with a baby in her arms.

"You see the agony and the anguish and the suffering in these figures," says Bryan Stevenson, founder and director of the Equal Justice Initiative, the non-profit legal advocacy group that created the memorial.

"It's people in distress," Stevenson says. "And I don't think we've actually done a very good job of acknowledging the pain and agony, the suffering, the humiliation, the complete denial of humanity that slavery created for black people on this continent."

Stevenson serves as a tour guide through the somber space – which remembers the nation's history of racial terror, representing a journey from slavery to the period after the Civil War, and before the civil rights movement.

. . .

https://www.npr.org/2018/04/26/604271871/new-lynching-memorial-is-a-space-to-talk-about-all-of-that-anguish



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A Lynching Memorial Is Opening. The Country Has Never Seen Anything Like It. (Original Post) niyad Apr 2018 OP
K&R wryter2000 Apr 2018 #1
agreed niyad Apr 2018 #2
Wow, what an amazing and honorable project PNW-Dem Apr 2018 #39
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Apr 2018 #3
thank you. I was simply blown away. niyad Apr 2018 #4
Another important Memorial MuseRider Apr 2018 #5
understood. I could barely make it through the traveling vietnam memorial. niyad Apr 2018 #7
I love your MuseRider Apr 2018 #8
and that is why I do what I do. niyad Apr 2018 #9
I forgot to respond to the other point. MuseRider Apr 2018 #11
Wow, that's powerful awesomerwb1 Apr 2018 #6
I read about this this morning on CNN. Long overdue. I would love to visit it some day. nt Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #10
Amazing yellowwoodII Apr 2018 #12
That's because for generations, blacks were not considered "human". BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #14
K&R and here is a link to their website BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #13
thank you so much for sharing that video, and the link. niyad Apr 2018 #21
You are most welcome! BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #23
Ms. Wells was truly one amazing, courageous person. have admired her for many years. niyad Apr 2018 #24
Thanks malaise Apr 2018 #26
If I ever visit Alabama, it'll definitely be on my must visit list! BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #28
I'll have to watch videos and documentaries malaise Apr 2018 #29
I hear ya BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #30
The video made me start bawling lunatica Apr 2018 #34
have you read Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz" "An Indigenous eople's HIstory of the United States"? niyad Apr 2018 #43
I go through... BigOleDummy Apr 2018 #15
I had the same horrible thought. kag Apr 2018 #38
had not thought of that, but a most excellent point. if you do get there, we would like niyad Apr 2018 #44
K&R Scurrilous Apr 2018 #16
thank you to whom ever built this AllaN01Bear Apr 2018 #17
I wonder how many people will visit tulipsandroses Apr 2018 #18
Wat too many years too late. raven mad Apr 2018 #19
Outstanding. Brilliant memorial. OhNo-Really Apr 2018 #20
Billie Holiday-Strange fruit- (and the 75th anniversary commentary) trigger wrning for images niyad Apr 2018 #22
Played Billy's version last night malaise Apr 2018 #27
Strange fruit, indeed. Orsino Apr 2018 #25
This is an important memorial and I want to go see it Gothmog Apr 2018 #31
Check this -Ida B Wells: the unsung heroine of the civil rights movement malaise Apr 2018 #32
She's been one of my top heroes for decades! lunatica Apr 2018 #35
+1,000 malaise Apr 2018 #36
Only 13 google maps reviews, hit it up ***** populistdriven Apr 2018 #33
I saw this on tv. It's a chilling monument. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #37
Check out al.com trof Apr 2018 #40
I got banned from AL.com long ago Kolesar Apr 2018 #42
oh dear trof Apr 2018 #48
Dear Goddess, I need a shower after that one. niyad Apr 2018 #45
Here's a link to a piece 60 Minutes did on it....with Oprah Winfrey spanone Apr 2018 #41
thank you for that link. niyad Apr 2018 #46
👍🏼 spanone Apr 2018 #47
It's important to remember the laws have changed more than the attitudes Major Nikon Apr 2018 #49
I don't believe the Civil War ended. jimmy2.0 Apr 2018 #50
Very powerful. n/t whathehell May 2018 #51

PNW-Dem

(244 posts)
39. Wow, what an amazing and honorable project
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 01:14 PM
Apr 2018

EJI is so impressive. They researched and documented that there were over 4,400 race-based lynchings of innocent people in the US (mainly the Southeast). This has to be recognized as a part of the complex American history…

EJI has also proven that innocent people were on death row. Check out their Innocence Project. Really pierces the George W. Bush execution veil that no innocent people were executed under his watch.

MuseRider

(34,112 posts)
5. Another important Memorial
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:32 PM
Apr 2018

that I will likely never see but support 100%. I barely stood the Vietnam memorial, just the magnitude was killer even with already knowing. I made it through about half, maybe a little more of the Holocaust Museum. I made it to the piles of children's shoes, combs etc and left. I support all these important memorials but cannot view them.

I hope others who need to see this will be exposed to it, it is terribly important. The pain of it all, omg.

niyad

(113,445 posts)
7. understood. I could barely make it through the traveling vietnam memorial.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:37 PM
Apr 2018

and I could not go near Sand Creek.

but, like you, I support them 100 %

MuseRider

(34,112 posts)
8. I love your
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:54 PM
Apr 2018

Susan B Anthony quote.

When looking at the history of our country it just blows your mind how many people have had to ask for that which we stand for and how many still have not been able to attain that. And people still wonder why, lol.

MuseRider

(34,112 posts)
11. I forgot to respond to the other point.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:00 PM
Apr 2018

I had forgotten where Sand Creek was so I had to look it up. I have not been there but, again, I cannot imagine going there and being able to deal with it.

There are so many places like that.

Where I live there are many small battle sites that lead up to the sacking of Lawrence, Kansas and hence the Civil War. I have seen some of them, been to the graves but that was mainly for family history. I am proud to say that my ancestors here in this state were Free Staters and fought for freedom and later were some of the first to govern here. I am not proud to say that their brothers were Indian hunters up in another state. I think my family has one large split in it and thankfully I fall where I fall. Anyway, still, all of our historic battlefields must be hard as well but not like this in Alabama. That is just, well it is even hard to talk about it here.

yellowwoodII

(616 posts)
12. Amazing
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 04:13 PM
Apr 2018

Why is it that Americans can respond sympathetically to the wrongs that other countries do "to their own people," but can ignore the wrongs that happen in our own country.

BumRushDaShow

(129,165 posts)
14. That's because for generations, blacks were not considered "human".
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 04:18 PM
Apr 2018

Even today, many still don't consider us human beings.

BumRushDaShow

(129,165 posts)
23. You are most welcome!
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:27 PM
Apr 2018


I have been monitoring the progress of this. I think we also owe Ida B. Wells a debt of gratitude for making it her life's work to document and editorialize these lynchings during the late 1800s and into the turn of last century.

BumRushDaShow

(129,165 posts)
30. I hear ya
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 01:03 PM
Apr 2018


True story but I had 2 great uncles born and raised here in Philly who went to Tuskegee for college and one of them (the oldest) stayed down there, got married (a couple times) and I think his youngest was born when he was around 70 years old. Last I saw him was in the mid-'70s so he is long gone but I wouldn't be surprised if the cousins (who I never met) are still down there.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
34. The video made me start bawling
Sat Apr 28, 2018, 02:09 PM
Apr 2018

As long as we don’t confront and acknowledge this country’s shadow side of hatred and violence we will never be clean, nor will we able to change. We have to look at the root causes of our present problems before we can admit to them and move forward to begin to fulfill our potential.

No more of this pretending the obvious isn’t there. We will only wither into a twisted failure of a nation that could have made itself truly good but chose not to.

niyad

(113,445 posts)
43. have you read Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz" "An Indigenous eople's HIstory of the United States"?
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 12:29 PM
Apr 2018

that, too, must be confronted and addressed. but, not holding my breath.

BigOleDummy

(2,272 posts)
15. I go through...
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 04:23 PM
Apr 2018

.... the Deep South on a regular basis. Well ...... did before I retired anyway. Have been thinking of making a trip this summer to visit some friends. If I do I'll make sure I stop by this Memorial. Tears will flow I'm sure as they are welling up as I type these words but this must be seen and absorbed.

On a different more depressing note, I sure hope they have round the clock security there. It sickens me to say but what do you want to bet that this will be a magnet for racist vandals?

kag

(4,079 posts)
38. I had the same horrible thought.
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 10:47 AM
Apr 2018

I, too, hope they have a good security system. And I hope to hell I get to see this memorial some day.

niyad

(113,445 posts)
44. had not thought of that, but a most excellent point. if you do get there, we would like
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 12:30 PM
Apr 2018

to hear your impressions.

niyad

(113,445 posts)
22. Billie Holiday-Strange fruit- (and the 75th anniversary commentary) trigger wrning for images
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:18 PM
Apr 2018



Southern trees bear strange fruit
Blood on the leaves and blood at the root
Black bodies swinging in the southern breeze
Strange fruit hanging from the poplar trees
Pastoral scene of the gallant south
The bulging eyes and the twisted mouth
Scent of magnolias, sweet and fresh
Then the sudden smell of burning flesh
Here is fruit for the crows to pluck
For the rain to gather, for the wind to suck
For the sun to rot, for the trees to drop
Here is a strange and bitter crop



Strange Fruit - the story behind "The Song of the Century"




Nina Simone: Strange Fruit

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
25. Strange fruit, indeed.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:38 PM
Apr 2018

I'm glad that money was spent for this, rather than some bit of puffery honoring white supremacy.

malaise

(269,087 posts)
32. Check this -Ida B Wells: the unsung heroine of the civil rights movement
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:52 PM
Apr 2018
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/27/ida-b-wells-civil-rights-movement-reporter
<snip>
The pioneering African American reporter counted, investigated and reported lynchings in America as no one had done before

‘Lynching is color-line murder’: Ida B Wells-Barnett’s blistering 1909 speech

Today, a simple marker on a street corner in Memphis, Tennessee commemorates the People’s Grocery lynching. In 1892 three black men, co-owners of a store giving white businesses a run for their money, were attacked, fought back and were arrested. They never stood trial. A white mob broke into the jail, dragged them away and lynched them.

The murders were grieved by their friend Ida B Wells, an African American teacher, journalist, civil rights pioneer and suffragist about whom it was once said: “She has plenty of nerve; she is as smart as a steel trap, and she has no sympathy with humbug.”

Wells was galvanised to count, investigate and report lynchings in America as no one had done before, hurling her 5ft frame into hostile territory with all the fearlessness of a war reporter.

For a century she has languished as an unsung heroine, overshadowed by more familiar giants of the civil rights movement. In recent years, however, her crusading activism and muckraking techniques are being rediscovered. A society for investigative reporting bears her name; the New York Times – which once branded her “a slanderous and nasty-minded mulattress” – just published a belated obituary, and there are moves to name a street after her in New York and build a monument in Chicago.

One has to ask: ‘Would I have the courage to do that?’ There was no help going to come for you, no protection from the law
Nikole Hannah-Jones

“I consider her my spiritual grandmother,” says Nikole Hannah-Jones, an investigative journalist covering civil rights. “She was was a trailblazer in every way ... as a feminist, as a suffragist, as an investigative reporter, as a civil rights leader. She was just an all-around badass.”


lunatica

(53,410 posts)
35. She's been one of my top heroes for decades!
Sat Apr 28, 2018, 02:26 PM
Apr 2018

That woman took no shit from anyone! Every time I feel any fear or trepidation about confronting authority, especially at work before I retired I would remind myself of her and Harriet Tubman and the far more deadly “authority” they faced in their lives.

These great ladies have inspired me to stand up to authoritarians every time. For years I’ve fought for respect and fairness for everyone around me.

I found out about her because in college I hated American History so much that I went to a councelor to ask if there was another course I could take. He suggested I take Women’s American History. That turned out to be my favorite subject in college. I finally took an American History course that taught our real history!

If every high school required all those students to take one semester of our history from the point of view of each ethnicity (Native American, Latino, Black, Chinese and women), I truly believe racism and sexism would diminish almost completely.

malaise

(269,087 posts)
36. +1,000
Sat Apr 28, 2018, 02:32 PM
Apr 2018

THey don't even want to teach basic civics these days and history is now some revisionist crap

trof

(54,256 posts)
40. Check out al.com
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 05:39 PM
Apr 2018
http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2018/04/visitors_leave_lynching_memori.html

I just stopped by to see the negative comments.
They didn't disappoint.
It's a shame.
I was born and raised here and now I'm back.


From FSU70
National Memorial for Peace and Justice,..... Wow only a Liberal mind could validate the deaths of 4,400 black people and ignore the millions of unborn black babies aborted in the Name of a Woman's Right. That's like saying those who lynched Blacks had the right. Tearing down Civil War monuments in protest of salvery over a hundred years ago while at the same time today supporting the building of Planned Parenthood Abortion mills.

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
42. I got banned from AL.com long ago
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 09:12 AM
Apr 2018

My comments weren't popular. The editor didn't like my screenname: GOPussies.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
49. It's important to remember the laws have changed more than the attitudes
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 04:36 PM
Apr 2018

If there were the same level of enforcement against this behavior, the same sort of people would still be doing it. The same level of hate is still among us.

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