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Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 05:56 PM Apr 2018

60+ women know - Cosby knows - the jury knows

Justice has prevailed today, I am amazed. Cosby found guilty.

It is amazing how he kept(s) denying what he knows to be true. He knows what he has done.
Many accomplishes know what he has done.

I am just amazed we are witnessing justice.

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60+ women know - Cosby knows - the jury knows (Original Post) Equinox Moon Apr 2018 OP
I wonder... PJMcK Apr 2018 #1
He is functioning. He knows. Equinox Moon Apr 2018 #8
Oh, he knows all right Downtown Hound Apr 2018 #12
Even if he doesn't today (although the court didn't see that) mythology Apr 2018 #21
He is trying to convince the world he is not all there lunatica Apr 2018 #23
He knows full what he did. LiberalFighter Apr 2018 #24
I wonder what Harvey Weinstein is thinking at the moment. Scurrilous Apr 2018 #2
True. Maybe justice for him as well. Equinox Moon Apr 2018 #4
Cosby ought to be in jail until the day he dies. RockRaven Apr 2018 #3
Ooooo... good point Equinox Moon Apr 2018 #6
I think there are comfortable prisions for the rich and famous. Equinox Moon Apr 2018 #9
Welcome to DU, RockRaven! calimary Apr 2018 #32
I agree.. Cosby down, christx30 Apr 2018 #33
They are sociopaths and don't believe women have any rights. Well, today, we have some. lindysalsagal Apr 2018 #5
Group hug for Women's justice Equinox Moon Apr 2018 #7
Yes! BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2018 #10
I'm in!! raven mad Apr 2018 #41
I have had negative feelings about him for a long time. LisaM Apr 2018 #11
The victims in this criminal case was a women's basketball player. SunSeeker Apr 2018 #20
Oh, ugh, how creepy. LisaM Apr 2018 #40
I'm seriously disappointed by Bill gay texan Apr 2018 #13
I wish they would reopen the Phila State Penitentiary just for him. BigmanPigman Apr 2018 #14
Now the cane is a white cane because of his vision. TNNurse Apr 2018 #16
I mourned the idea of Bill Cosby when the accusations were coming in. TNNurse Apr 2018 #15
Me, too. I thought he was something other than what he is. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #18
FINALLY! Just how many frickin' women does it take before something is believed? Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #17
A lot of scummy people still don't believe these women. dustyscamp Apr 2018 #19
Will this open the door for more lawsuits? AC_Mem Apr 2018 #22
I think there is a Statute of Limitations on these crimes lunatica Apr 2018 #26
It is a good day in that realm, at least. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2018 #25
And he admitted to it in a deposition in a civil case. eom guillaumeb Apr 2018 #27
Let's be honest greatbaldeagle Apr 2018 #28
Remember, rape is a crime of power, not of sex. They do it for the power, not to get laid. Amaryllis Apr 2018 #31
You may be right but I'm not sure we can say this definitively with Cosby greatbaldeagle Apr 2018 #34
Good point, although maybe he got his jollies from rendering them completely helpless so they Amaryllis Apr 2018 #35
That's not in question so you're 100 percent right greatbaldeagle Apr 2018 #38
How often do convicted rapists get to remain free for 30-60 days awaiting sentencing? AdamGG Apr 2018 #29
Tough to get a verdict against a celebrity in California. Props to the DA's MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #30
Hi Mary Magdaline, you are famous Equinox Moon Apr 2018 #37
Ha!! Caught asleep at the wheel. I forgot the victim MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #39
The whole thing is horrific.... Upthevibe Apr 2018 #36
Kind of amazing that this all started from a comedian's Cosby routine going viral AdamGG Apr 2018 #42
Interesting. Thank you for chronicling how this happened. Equinox Moon Apr 2018 #43

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
1. I wonder...
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 05:58 PM
Apr 2018

...does Cosby know what he's done? Is it possible that he's as demented as Trump and actually believes his own bullshit?

Thankfully, justice prevailed with this cretin.

Hey, Trump! Ya hear those hoof beats behind ya? They're comin' fer ya!

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
12. Oh, he knows all right
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 06:43 PM
Apr 2018

I'm actually quite convinced that the reputation he built up for himself as the "clean comedian" who never swears and is a perfect role model was a conscious effort on his part to deflect attention away from him so no one would ever discover his, um, activities. Because seriously, 25 years ago would anybody have ever believed this? Very few.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
21. Even if he doesn't today (although the court didn't see that)
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 07:11 PM
Apr 2018

He didn't accidentally drug and rape women over many years.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
23. He is trying to convince the world he is not all there
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 07:24 PM
Apr 2018

And he’s also pretending he needs help walking, which sometimes he forgets to do.

Don’t fall for it.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
4. True. Maybe justice for him as well.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 06:01 PM
Apr 2018

He and Cosby are MAJOR offenders and were enabled to keep doing it for years.

Let's remember each offense has caused serious damage to each woman.

RockRaven

(14,977 posts)
3. Cosby ought to be in jail until the day he dies.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 06:01 PM
Apr 2018

He probably won't be, but he ought to be.

I wish the enablers around him, including his wife, were also held to account but I'm not holding my breath on that either.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
6. Ooooo... good point
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 06:02 PM
Apr 2018

Wouldn't that be something that the enablers could be held accountable as well. He would not have been as successful with his crimes.

calimary

(81,350 posts)
32. Welcome to DU, RockRaven!
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 08:37 PM
Apr 2018

Unfortunately, he's not the only offender who deserves to be in jail until he dies.

lindysalsagal

(20,695 posts)
5. They are sociopaths and don't believe women have any rights. Well, today, we have some.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 06:02 PM
Apr 2018

Group hug time, ladies. group hug time!

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
10. Yes!
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 06:38 PM
Apr 2018

An ex-friend must be exploding now...he was of the “he’s Black, I’m Black, I refuse to believe he did anything. But I’m a big feminist. But those 50 women are liars. But I raised daughters I know more about feminism than you.”

LisaM

(27,815 posts)
11. I have had negative feelings about him for a long time.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 06:39 PM
Apr 2018

He seems to have a sense of entitlement - my dislike goes back to an NCAA regional basketball tournament, where Temple was one of the teams. Bill Cosby came to see them (so far, all good) but the way he went about it was strange, no one could come near him, he didn't sit in a regular seat (or box), but instead, was curtained off in a special area, and all these rumors went around how you were not supposed to talk to him, etc. Some of the usual celebrity stuff, but it was around the time his show was on, he was making Jello ads, and otherwise giving off this jolly persona. I remember seeing sitting all by himself in the curtained-off space and something about it shot off a weird vibe.

I never forgot it, so when all these allegations started surfacing, the first thing I thought of was how peculiar he seemed all those years ago.

LisaM

(27,815 posts)
40. Oh, ugh, how creepy.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:51 AM
Apr 2018

You just made me figure out the problem. He was probably scoping for victims. Something seemed so off.

gay texan

(2,454 posts)
13. I'm seriously disappointed by Bill
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 06:46 PM
Apr 2018

I hate the fact that someone I used to look up to turned out to be a total dirtbag monster.

He's earned his punishment.

BigmanPigman

(51,613 posts)
14. I wish they would reopen the Phila State Penitentiary just for him.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 06:46 PM
Apr 2018

It is now empty, full of ghosts and other rats. No water, electricity etc...just a lot of old, decomposing remnants and memories from years of old crimes and criminals. This is the perfect place for him to live the rest of his years.

My dad was visiting earlier and we all grew up in Phila and knew all about Cosby's BS image. My dad said he is a sick, perverted and dangerous man and deserves to rot in jail. His squeaky clean image was a total farce.

Ali Velshi said on MSNBC that when Cosby "walked" into court he was almost an invalid...leaning on a cane and many people to support the poor old man yet on the way OUT of court after the verdict he had no need for a cane or other people to lean on. He almost sprinted out of court...he is a complete fraud. Even his wife wasn't there to support him today. Hello Melania and Donny, are YOU watching?

TNNurse

(6,928 posts)
16. Now the cane is a white cane because of his vision.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 06:57 PM
Apr 2018

It is not designed to assist with other physical mobility. So if this is an accurate description of his entrance, it was an act...he is an actor. Walking out I saw him guided by a man, and he was swinging that cane...it was whitel

TNNurse

(6,928 posts)
15. I mourned the idea of Bill Cosby when the accusations were coming in.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 06:55 PM
Apr 2018

I could never watch the show or any of his comedy routines again.

He did himself in. I hope he dies in prison but not right away.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
17. FINALLY! Just how many frickin' women does it take before something is believed?
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 07:00 PM
Apr 2018

I mean, come on! But finally, justice for those women.

dustyscamp

(2,224 posts)
19. A lot of scummy people still don't believe these women.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 07:03 PM
Apr 2018

These trolls say these women are fake crying or they are in it for the fame n money. Just look at the youtube comments on this. Disgusting

AC_Mem

(1,979 posts)
22. Will this open the door for more lawsuits?
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 07:11 PM
Apr 2018

Now would be the time to come forward. They all had basically the same story of how he drugged and overpowered them and raped them. One victory for these women who were so terribly abused, and who have to live with the humiliation and memory for the rest of their lives - is not enough. He should be charged and convicted on each and every one of his abuses.

Karmically - oh boy. If you believe in an afterlife and reincarnation - taking away someone's power, choice, "mindfuck" are very serious choices to make in a lifetime and karma WILL balance the damage. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes when he has to face his spiritual counsel when he crosses over, or his higher power. To take the life he had and cause such pain and suffering to others when he had the opportunity to do such good, well it really pretty much cancels out any good he did accomplish.

I would imagine he is going to try to do anything he can to keep himself out of prison. He probably hopes that he can stay out for the rest of his life, since he is 80. This is why I hope that there are other lawsuits coming so that he HAS to face his punishment. He should also be sued by every female he intentionally harmed. 80 in numerology is an "8" which is abundance OR lessons in abundance/lack of abundance. It is also the number of balance (turn the number upside down and it is still an 8), and 2018 is an 11 year, and 11 is a "master lessons" number, kind of like having the opportunity to either spiritually get your PHd, or drop out and fail. Numerology-speaking, I have a feeling this is far from the end of his problems and 2018 may be an even tougher year for him than it already has been. He has probably worked very hard to hide as much of his fortune as he can, knowing that he will be sued and will have to pay. I hope the lawsuits will delve into his finances before he makes everything disappear.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
26. I think there is a Statute of Limitations on these crimes
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 07:34 PM
Apr 2018

Which is why this woman is the only one who was able to take him to court.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
25. It is a good day in that realm, at least.
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 07:32 PM
Apr 2018

For some bizarre reason, I have Jim Jefferies on a loop in my brain, ATM. In his fairly poor but recognizable Cosby impression: "With the Jell-O and the puddin' and the drugs and the rapin'..."

It's at least as disturbing as it is comical.

greatbaldeagle

(157 posts)
28. Let's be honest
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 08:02 PM
Apr 2018

No man has to rape women. But a man with Cosby's fame and fortune definitely does not have to drug and rape women to get sex. It's available for free 24 hours a day, 7 days a week to a man in his position. I find it interesting that he drugged them first. It's almost as if he was so ashamed of his sexual desires that he didn't even want to reveal this to the women that he raped. So by drugging them, perhaps in his twisted mind he thought he could satisfy his sexual desires without the women knowing he was not the man he claimed to be. If this is true, then if he had just been honest with himself and with the rest of the world instead of trying to maintain a "clean" image, he could have had sex with thousands of women and never had to apologize for any of it.

I don't feel sorry for him and he is finally getting what he deserves. But I just think there is more to this story than just purely a desire to rape or a desire to have sex. It would be like a famous millionaire nutrition expert wearing a disguise and stealing pork rinds from gas stations because they're embarrassed that they're obsessed with pork rinds. They could just walk in without a disguise and buy as many as they want, but their reputation as a nutrition expert would be tarnished. Cosby built his entire reputation and legacy on being a "clean" family man. It must have sucked to have a fetish for hot, sexy young women, knowing that if he acted on it, it could never get out that he was having sex with 2 of them a day. Look no further than Tiger Woods. Reputation and legacy tarnished forever all because he portrayed himself as a "clean" family guy while having the sexual appetite of Hugh Hefner. Hefner died a legend and never had to apologize for having 3 20 year old girlfriends at a time. Amazing. This is a reason why we shouldn't demonize people for their desires. Sometimes you are who you are and living a lie is only going to hurt you and the people around you.

greatbaldeagle

(157 posts)
34. You may be right but I'm not sure we can say this definitively with Cosby
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 08:54 PM
Apr 2018

I think it is reasonable to make this argument for rapists who don't drug their victims. They certainly overpower them and probably get some sort of rush out of it. But I'm just not so sure you can make this argument for a guy who drugs women in order to rape them. This is a horrible analogy, but losing 20 pounds by crushing it in the gym would certainly make one feel more powerful than getting liposuction.

Amaryllis

(9,525 posts)
35. Good point, although maybe he got his jollies from rendering them completely helpless so they
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 08:57 PM
Apr 2018

couldn't fight back.

greatbaldeagle

(157 posts)
38. That's not in question so you're 100 percent right
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 09:10 PM
Apr 2018

He clearly got his jollies off from doing this. But I am just questioning if the underlying issue behind that was his need to maintain the lie he lived as "America's Family Man". If so, it's sad that so many women suffered when all he had to do was "take the free candy" and not be embarrassed about the sweet tooth. Yes, another horrible analogy but I seem to be full of them today.

AdamGG

(1,292 posts)
29. How often do convicted rapists get to remain free for 30-60 days awaiting sentencing?
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 08:13 PM
Apr 2018

Is Cosby getting special treatment, or is it common for convicted felons to get a month or two of freedom before sentencing?

MaryMagdaline

(6,855 posts)
39. Ha!! Caught asleep at the wheel. I forgot the victim
Thu Apr 26, 2018, 09:35 PM
Apr 2018

Was from PA.

Actually Mary Magdalene is sort of famous. Not the lesser known, poor speller, MaryMagdaline.

AdamGG

(1,292 posts)
42. Kind of amazing that this all started from a comedian's Cosby routine going viral
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 03:55 AM
Apr 2018

These accusations against Cosby had been dormant for over 10 years until Hannibal Burress did a stand up bit about Bill Cosby being a rapist that got recorded on cell phones and went viral. Then, with the increased attention, more women came foreward and the story gained momentum. Without that viral stand up video, Cosby would likely now be in a new tv show playing a loveable grandpa and still be viewed as a national treasure.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
43. Interesting. Thank you for chronicling how this happened.
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 09:44 AM
Apr 2018

I vaguely remember seeing a video of the public statement.

So, a huge part of this is all the enablers. There should be consequences for the enablers. Apparently, a lot of people knew about this over the YEARS - of his active abuse spree.

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