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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 01:28 PM Apr 2018

Concerned Catholic Paul Ryan Wants Priests to Shut Up About the Poor

Concerned Catholic Paul Ryan Wants Priests to Shut Up About the Poor
The congressional chaplain gets the sack.
BY CHARLES P. PIERCE APR 27, 2018

Right around 1817, after his term as president and having retired to the family homestead at Montpelier in Virginia, James Madison, who never stopped thinking about things, jotted down some further thoughts on one of his favorite subjects—the danger of mixing religious faith and secular, godless politics. He was pretty clear about where he stood. He was opposed even to the idea of congressional chaplains.

Is the appointment of Chaplains to the two Houses of Congress consistent with the Constitution, and with the pure principle of religious freedom? In strictness, the answer on both points must be in the negative. The Constitution of the U. S. forbids everything like an establishment of a national religion. The law appointing Chaplains establishes a religious worship for the national representatives, to be performed by Ministers of religion, elected by a majority of them; and these are to be paid out of the national taxes. Does not this involve the principle of a national establishment, applicable to a provision for a religious worship for the Constituent as well as of the representative Body, approved by the majority, and conducted by Ministers of religion paid by the entire nation.

That one portion of Madison’s notes is highlighted because recent events have added a third reason for not having congressional chaplains. Because, one day, a zombie-eyed granny starver might become Speaker of the House and fire a chaplain for being insufficiently devout as regards the theological basis for sacred tax cuts.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a20084129/paul-ryan-congress-chaplain-resign/
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Concerned Catholic Paul Ryan Wants Priests to Shut Up About the Poor (Original Post) workinclasszero Apr 2018 OP
Actually, as a Catholic, he just wanted the pleasure... malthaussen Apr 2018 #1
Nah, I think the OP has it right whathehell Apr 2018 #6
Ya know, any GOPer, in my opinion wouldn't know Iliyah Apr 2018 #2
Jesus said... workinclasszero Apr 2018 #3
It's a fair philisophical point... malthaussen Apr 2018 #7
Money and God for sure workinclasszero Apr 2018 #8
Ryan isn't a devout Catholic atreides1 Apr 2018 #4
Bingo! workinclasszero Apr 2018 #5
Rand was an atheist, too MountCleaners Apr 2018 #9
And she took her social security checks too workinclasszero Apr 2018 #10

malthaussen

(17,216 posts)
1. Actually, as a Catholic, he just wanted the pleasure...
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 01:30 PM
Apr 2018

... of telling a Jesuit to stuff it. Boy went to Catholic school, it probably left a mark.

-- Mal

whathehell

(29,086 posts)
6. Nah, I think the OP has it right
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 01:58 PM
Apr 2018

He's tried to milk his Catholic cred but failed as Romney's running mate when the Bishop's Council slapped him down for his very Unchristian budget proposal.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
2. Ya know, any GOPer, in my opinion wouldn't know
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 01:46 PM
Apr 2018

Jesus if he or she walked up to them and sayeth I'm am your GOD . . . how you treat the least of us is how you treat me. . . .

Especially the so called Evangelist. They would deny, call him or her fake, and throw rocks.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
3. Jesus said...
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 01:51 PM
Apr 2018

Matt 6:24 "No one can serve two masters. For you will hate one and love the other; you will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money".

Super easy to see who the evangelical right republicans are serving, huh?

malthaussen

(17,216 posts)
7. It's a fair philisophical point...
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 02:00 PM
Apr 2018

... must two (or more) masters inevitably come into conflict? Money and god, yeah, I can see that, but as a general principle it's suspect.

-- Mal

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
8. Money and God for sure
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 02:03 PM
Apr 2018

The republican party and it's leader are the perfect example of the words of Jesus.

atreides1

(16,091 posts)
4. Ryan isn't a devout Catholic
Fri Apr 27, 2018, 01:53 PM
Apr 2018

Ryan is a convenient Catholic...but for the most part his belief in the writings of Ayn Rand, is his real religion!!!

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