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struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
Fri May 4, 2018, 03:20 AM May 2018

How the Kent State massacre changed music

By Tim Sommer
May 3 at 11:30 AM

... “I don’t think I would have started Devo had that not happened,” says Gerald Casale, who formed the band in the early 1970s with Bob Lewis, another Kent State student, survivor and witness. “It’s that simple” ...

Chris Butler, who would go on to form the bands Tin Huey and the Waitresses, is adamant that his presence on the scene that day kick-started his creative future. He’d borne witness to a culture — he calls it “the uber-culture” — that had tried to kill him ...

The Akron bands dismissed the sounds and formulas on commercial radio, eschewing more melodic structures and sing-song lyrics in favor of atonal compositions and chanted choruses. They recorded their tracks in self-built studios and created a system to release and promote their work. In the mid-’70s, that just wasn’t done, especially not with the kind of collective drive that emerged in Akron ...

... Chrissie Hynde was inspired by the Kent State events to drop out of school . In her autobiography, “Reckless: My Life as a Pretender,” she recalls the day: “The grassy, rolling common was teeming with students,” she writes. “I’d never seen it so packed. .?.?. Then I heard the tatatatatatatatatat sound. I thought it was fireworks. An eerie silence fell over the common. Then a young man’s voice: ‘They f---ing killed somebody.’?” Later, Hynde moved to Britain, where she became one of the most respected female performers of her generation ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/how-the-kent-state-massacre-changed-music/2018/05/03/b45ca462-4cb6-11e8-b725-92c89fe3ca4c_story.html?utm_term=.f924030e5ce5

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How the Kent State massacre changed music (Original Post) struggle4progress May 2018 OP
Great Post! thbobby May 2018 #1
Tin soldiers and Nixon coming... dchill May 2018 #2
They all look the same struggle4progress May 2018 #3
Hey Sandy struggle4progress May 2018 #4
Student Demonstration Time struggle4progress May 2018 #5
Inquire, Learn, Reflect struggle4progress May 2018 #6
The Kent State massacre struggle4progress May 2018 #7
Long Distance Runaround struggle4progress May 2018 #8
Ohio Machine Gun struggle4progress May 2018 #9
Where Was Jesus In Ohio? struggle4progress May 2018 #10
Wow...Bruce with long hair. BigmanPigman May 2018 #13
Thanks I'll have to check that out underpants May 2018 #25
Driving through mythical America struggle4progress May 2018 #11
41000 Plus 4 struggle4progress May 2018 #12
Don't get me wrong struggle4progress May 2018 #14
Monday in May struggle4progress May 2018 #15
Turn to stone struggle4progress May 2018 #16
It could have been me struggle4progress May 2018 #17
Jackson-Kent Blues struggle4progress May 2018 #18
Jackson State. Doesn't get a lot of attention. nt Mc Mike May 2018 #20
The Kent States you don't know about struggle4progress May 2018 #22
And Orangeburg. Thanks, nt. Mc Mike May 2018 #23
I remember there was a rumor going around my parent's crowd. Ligyron May 2018 #19
We must all decide exactly what will shock us most, I suppose struggle4progress May 2018 #21
Kent had a very stringent Dress Code enforcement policy. Mc Mike May 2018 #24
It seems to me they still do: struggle4progress May 2018 #26
Don't make us mobilize the Guard, kids. Mc Mike May 2018 #27
Not music - Alabama football Coach Nick Saban stopped to have lunch underpants May 2018 #28
Long distance runaround? Soxfan58 May 2018 #29
K&R (eom) CanSocDem May 2018 #30
kent state comes to mind whenever someone claims the military 'protects our freedoms' KG May 2018 #31
RIP - Allison Krause, Sandra Scheuer, Jeffrey Miller, William Schroeder Number9Dream May 2018 #32
Remember those names! LongTomH May 2018 #33
Draft Morning Mendocino May 2018 #34

dchill

(38,503 posts)
2. Tin soldiers and Nixon coming...
Fri May 4, 2018, 04:04 AM
May 2018

We're finally on our own
This summer I hear the drumming
Four dead in Ohio.

The first and the best. Thank you, Neil Young.

struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
22. The Kent States you don't know about
Fri May 4, 2018, 05:33 AM
May 2018

By Breeanna Hare, CNN
Updated 8:56 PM ET, Wed May 3, 2017

... Just 11 days after the deadly shooting in Ohio, two students were killed and 12 were wounded when police fired more than 100 rounds of bullets on protesters gathered at Mississippi's predominantly black Jackson State College.

And two years earlier, in 1968, three students were killed by authorities during protests against segregation at South Carolina State in Orangeburg, another historically black institution ...

https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/03/us/soundtracks-kent-state-jackson-state-orangeburg/index.html



Ligyron

(7,633 posts)
19. I remember there was a rumor going around my parent's crowd.
Fri May 4, 2018, 05:24 AM
May 2018

One of the girls was taken to the hospital where it was discovered she had (gasp) no underpanties on!


That was shocking to the older crowd. Well, a lot of women, girls really, didn't wear bras back then. Looked a lot better for it too IMHO.

struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
21. We must all decide exactly what will shock us most, I suppose
Fri May 4, 2018, 05:28 AM
May 2018
I heard one of those girls shot by the National Guard wasn't wearing any underwear!

struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
26. It seems to me they still do:
Fri May 4, 2018, 05:56 AM
May 2018
Decency Policy ... In the interest of encouraging a positive and comfortable environment, the Department of Recreational Services has established the following “Standard of Decency” governing patron attire while participating in programs and open recreation at the Student Recreation and Wellness Center ... Standard of Decency prohibits .. Visible cleavage, navels, and/or midriffs. No skin should be shown between the bottom of the shirt/blouse and the top of the pants ...

https://www.kent.edu/recservices/dress-code-and-decency-policy

underpants

(182,829 posts)
28. Not music - Alabama football Coach Nick Saban stopped to have lunch
Fri May 4, 2018, 06:06 AM
May 2018

Saban was a freshman at Kent State.
Non football fans, Saban is a giant of college football (like himor not). 12 of his players were drafted into the NFL last week.

The link and the clip below don't include the story of how he and a teammate stopped to have lunch or they would have been in that area of campus. You can tell from both his words and his demeanor that it deeply affected him.

2:34 video here
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/9/23/13019090/nick-saban-kent-state-shootings

Number9Dream

(1,562 posts)
32. RIP - Allison Krause, Sandra Scheuer, Jeffrey Miller, William Schroeder
Fri May 4, 2018, 09:42 AM
May 2018

My older cousin, in the 11th Light Infantry Brigade, in S. Vietnam, didn't hear about it until a day or two after. He said most of the soldiers felt that battle-dressed guardsmen should not have responded, even to rock throwing, with lethal force.
I remember how the killings at Kent State pushed a large number of my high school classmates, who were politically middle-of-the-road, much further toward the anti-war, anti-establishment end of the spectrum. After all, this was a demonstration on a college campus in middle America, not China. They felt it could be them next.

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