and yeah, i'm an eagles fan too.

Henley has a history of being hard to please.

Avenatti keeping Henley happy is not easy!!!


This guy is amazing

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And he wrote a book about it, "Heaven and Hell: My Live in the Eagles," revealing what Olympic Class pricks Henley and Frey really were. Felder's fight with them revolved around the two "gods" trying to screw him out of a legally-binding contract they had made years earlier about division of profits. It was a pattern with them. They screwed people out of royalties and writing credits. If one of the band brought them a song and they changed ONE word of the lyrics, they gave themselves credits with ASCAP.

Henley and Frey fought in court to keep Felder's book from being published. They lost. They also lost the law suit with him about the contract they tried to nullify, but the settlement is sealed. Still they lost and that had to be an enormous blow to their gigantic egos.

They were also big on humiliation. When the Eagles were inducted into the R & R Hall of Fame, all of the former members returned. But Henley and Frey would not allow all of them to play. Poor Randy Meisner (the original bass player) was on stage with his bass, but most people didn't notice that it wasn't plugged into anything. And his mike was turned off.

Henley and Frey were a pair of nasty dickweeds.

Frey lived above Jackson Browne and heard him working on the song numerous times. Frey kept bugging the shit out of Browne to have him help him finish the song. Frey added 'there's a girl my lord in a flat bed ford slowing down to take a look at me.'

Now a great line, but he got equal writing credit and a shit ton of money for that one line. Seeing it was the hit that launched the Eagles, you would think he wouldn't have been such an ass to his band mates.

I believe Irving Azoff also cut Browne a special deal with a future contract. Since Browne brought in a lot of his talent, Azoff gave him a more favorable contract than the Eagles. Of course that pissed off Frey and Henley and strained the relationship with Browne.

Azoff has always been on Frey and Henley's side

There was not a strained relationship with Browne, he had center stage in their History of the Eagles

and fleder and walsh and Bernie lit up the stage during Hotel California

Randy Meisner was a bass player. And on that stage that night, he was NOT playing an acoustic bass. Frey and Henley told him he could be there, but he would not be playing (or singing).

but it was on stage.

Timothy was playing bass, Meisner was playing acoustic

Video is poor, but one of the best views is just after the 2:00 minute mark. Meisner is to the (viewer's) left of Schmidt.

https://vimeo.com/58424679

and tried to say "they " were involved in certain things but He was a good boy and did not...

ultimate shit stirrer

Both Frey and Henley come off a dicks. And I also lost a bit of respect for Joe Walsh for not calling them out for being dicks.

Frey fancied himself as the leader at first then gave way to Henley. (Because he realized there was no way he could hold on to top dog position) Then they had this strange relationship where Frey kissed Henley's ass and became the heavy to take out guys who Henley had issues with.

IMO were both fucking assholes.

Compare them to Dave Matthews who splits the money equally with all band members.

and always he was the antagonist

But prior to joining the Eagles, Don Felder was one of the highest-paid, sought after studio musicians and most respected guitarists in the business. (The other might be Jeff Baxter.) They sought him out to replace Leadon who had had enough of Frey and Henley and quit, which took a lot of the snap out of their music. Leadon was and still is recognized as one of the best banjo men in the music industry.

Also, if it weren't for Don Felder, there would have been no Tom Petty and Heartbreakers. Don taught "little Tommy Petty" how to play and perfect his sound. And there are others who owe their livelihood to Felder.

Lastly, Felder was the quiet, patient professional. He wasn't the one who started feuds with other musicians, other bands, music executives, and Rolling Stone (among others). That was pure Henley and Frey. Always shooting their mouths off, trying to be the BIG STARS. Felder ? Antagonistic ? Hardly.

One of the best put-downs of Henley came from Jack Nicholson, in a way that only Nicholson could deliver, and in front of a woman Henley was trying to impress and put the moves on. Hilarious.

even today felder can't do anything but be antagonistic.

but it's whatever.

The point of the thread was Avenatti is one hell of a lawyer!

And feud starting. Also he cannot have replaced anyone as he was the 5th Eagle. There were 4 before that. So he he and Bernie were members at the same time. Joe replaced Bernie. Check that on Wikipedia. They went back to four members when Don F left.

They would not have used banjo due to changing from country rock to rock and Bernie preferred the more country sound and left due to that. It brought about the amusing story of how Bernie had enough of Glenn talk of those changes and so poured a beer over Glenn’s head. Would have been fun to have been there.

Was that Felder put it all in the book. The out of control drug-fueled orgies, the boose, the women, at a time when Henley was trying to present himself as something above all that (as he was newly engaged. Again.) and the internecine warfare within the band. Plus Felder let it slip about all the constant dub, dub, and overdub nonsense until it was - in Henley's mind - perfect. It would go on for hours often way into the night. Tedious as hell with lots of arguments. But he would mix and remix stuff right up to the day the disc was to go to press. Felder thought that was just BS.

And then there was the contract that they tried to screw him out of. But a contract IS a contract and that is exactly how the judge saw it. It was all sealed, but I would LOVE to see the contents of it, because Felder must have walked out with a sweet deal. Henley hasn't spoken to him sense.

Good for you "Fingers"

for rock bands!

Internecine war can make them more creative. I read a book about the Clash and their manager tried to get them to fight, thinking it would increase their creativity. This included his ragging on them and letting them stay in jail overnight once when he could have bailed them out!

It is hard to say is Henley was wrong when those albums were big successes. Though I thought Glenn was the slavedriver from the comments I read on youtube (truth of same not necessarily established thereby). And again there was some sense that it was how they got such success.

was that he kowtowed to the two of them. If you ever saw him before he joined the Eagles, he was always all over the stage, running around, jumping and leaping. But "the gods" didn't like that and told him he had to stand still or they were going to nail his feet to the floor. So, he did. What BS. I remember The James Gang, they were pretty uninhibited on stage, so I was sorry to see Joe knuckle under to these two egomaniacs.

He certainly has high profile, but really raised it now. Figures that the Orange Disaster is making more opportunities for lawyers rather than the working people who voted for him.