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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAbout the "royal wedding", put me down for "Don't give a damn and resent the 100%
saturation coverage". I guess the shootings and treason and bribery have all been resolved, right?
bigtree
(86,005 posts)...they're a splendid couple.
Love is a beautiful thing.
Funtatlaguy
(10,887 posts)Sycophantic garbage.
bigtree
(86,005 posts)...getting married.
What's not to like about that? It's a beautiful thing.
Funtatlaguy
(10,887 posts)Not worthy of Americans time or attention.
I could care less about the two people. They havent done anything wrong.
Hope they are happy.
Its just that we celebrate the wrong things. Whatever. Trump thinks hes King and so do his minions. Maybe when Melania leaves him, he can imprison Jared and he can fulfill his dream to marry Ivanka and they can be King and Queen of America.
onenote
(42,767 posts)More than some but less than others
Ferrets are Cool
(21,110 posts)MountCleaners
(1,148 posts)I care more about my friend's handfasting this weekend than these people. They can BUY their happiness with their ill-gotten loot that was stolen from half the planet.
bigtree
(86,005 posts)...people in love.
I strive for love. It may well be sentimental, mawkish, but I don't lose anything feeling and expressing love. Too much of what we do excludes love, or puts it aside like it's some frivolity when it's actually the point of what we do as humans.
I like this.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)You and those who feel as you do are calling a wedding trash and worse.
It was actually quite a nice wedding and a huge positive historical marker. And some are all hot and bothered about it?
Deep breath and introspection time? Figure out why? Or maybe just, "Dang, where'd I leave my balance?"
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)maybe turn the television off? I think we all know how the shooting thing is going and what the results are. We have a tally of dead kids who will never see a wedding now, and alls pretty much laid out about the rag tag worthless shit bag kid that killed them.
Go outside, read a book. Take a nap. Help your neighbor.
Lots to do but crab about some royal wedding. Happens sometimes.
Personally I'm grateful for some news other than the daily rigamaroll.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)generate some happiness for yourselves and others right? Even if it kills you. WE are the chosen people. WE are the Country that brings hope to others. WE will be ok. The 60's lasted a long time for some folks. Don't let 2018 be your 1968. Have a good weekend.
wonkwest
(463 posts)Just saying
radical noodle
(8,013 posts)one can buy many things with money but happiness is not for sale. All you have to do is look at the long history of royalty and see that most of them have had plenty of problems to deal with, money or not.
I would personally rather watch the wedding (although I didn't) than to see trump and his criminal family for five seconds.
whathehell
(29,094 posts)bigtree
(86,005 posts)...isn't love, after all, the essence of what we strive for?
It should be.
Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)"How can they spend three whole minutes on something positive when the world is falling apart?!"
whathehell
(29,094 posts)I'd suggest you leave it to the songwriters, big.
bigtree
(86,005 posts)...it doesn't hurt to imagine.
whathehell
(29,094 posts)The rest of us aren't all that warm & gooey about it.
bigtree
(86,005 posts)...to presume to deny me or anyone else an expression of love.
How utterly pathetic of you to mock me. You must need a hug.
here, while I'm thinking about it...
whathehell
(29,094 posts)but if you hadn't noticed, this is a political site, not The Love Boat, and no one is "presuming" to deny you a thing.
Given that I have actual things to do today, I'm going to bid you "adiu" now, m'kay? Buh bye.
bigtree
(86,005 posts)...find someone to talk to.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)has everyone beyond bitter. Especially on political sites. If only we all had really satisfying, good paying jobs. Life/tv/internet, would be so much easier to walk away from.
Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)whathehell
(29,094 posts)Unless you can explain why my interest in a British monarch
would mirror my interest in an American president.
Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)"but if you hadn't noticed, this is a political site, not The Love Boat"
So it shouldn't be here.
whathehell
(29,094 posts)Me? I'm out of this silly, pointless conversation..Bye.
MLAA
(17,329 posts)The world is completely falling apart as we have destroyed our planet, Impotus and the repulsive republicans are/have destroyed democracy and decency. Lack of responsible gun laws is killing children again and again. All this reality doesnt stop me from taking a few minutes to enjoy something beautiful like the royal wedding.Just like while I stay up on the news I make time for baseball games.
Big🌲 grab a few minutes of joy wherever you find it and blow off those who try and take it away from you. 😍
Cha
(297,691 posts)Shocking I know.
I just got through reading this..
A Definitive History of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's Royal Relationship
https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/a9664508/prince-harry-meghan-markle-relationship/
I'm mush pie for romance
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex
bigtree
(86,005 posts)...for your affirmation of love.
Cha
(297,691 posts)What the world needs more of
pandr32
(11,615 posts)The people lining the streets to wave at the newlyweds made Trump's inauguration crowd size look minuscule and the people in Britain were joyous.
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex were beaming as they rode by in their carriage. It was so incredible to see them out in the open like that with everyone cheering. People have remained and are filling the shops and restaurants celebrating--many came from all over the commonwealth for this fairytale-like event that connects the best of traditions and the People.
Britain is shining today. I hope the tRump family is miserable.
Aloha, Cha. Just so you know we are fine in our area. The eruptions of ash and gas are downwind.
Cha
(297,691 posts)The description of the wedding and how you are!
When I saw your name I was going to ask. You read my mind. Down wind that's even better. It must be so scary for all the people in Leilani Estates whose homes were destroyed. And, just wondering what's going to happen next?
How are you all faring besides the volcano constantly erupting?
As J K Rowling tweets..
pandr32
(11,615 posts)In reality, the crowds at Windsor continued around a corner and down another street.
We are doing fine with our Hawaiian life. A young feral rooster adopted us last November so we called him "Jones" as in Doug Jones. He has grown since (we are giving him high-quality chicken scratch) and acts like he owns the property.
The earthquakes a couple of weeks ago were definitely felt and we had some breakage as things fell to the floor. I took all our breakable valuables and sat them on the floor so they won't fall off high spots if another big one hits. I don't trust it is over yet.
Our air quality is good--unlike south and west of us. Kona stung my eyes during a stop there a few days ago so we were happy to get back to the Hilo area. The swimming pool is clean, too--no ash or contamination
I hope you are doing well.
Aloha, Cha
Cha
(297,691 posts)they're taking over the Island!
I forgot about the earthquakes, too. Now that would have been scary! I remember back during Hurricane Iniki in 1992.. I was going around putting things on the floor so they wouldn't go flying about if it got to that.
You're so lucky your air quality is good and your pool(good for you!) is clean..wow!
Doing pretty good.. Mahalo and Aloha, pandr!
Docreed2003
(16,876 posts)We need more love in this world.
I'm perhaps the most cynical person I know and even I am enjoying this.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)give even the slightest solitary fuck about you or me, so why one Earth are normal people paying attention to this ridiculous nonsense?! We are garbage to them.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)far more accurately reveal our own than anyone else's.
Fwiw, I don't think most Americans catching part or all of the wedding care about this couple themselves more than the good-natured well-wishing most people feel toward those they don't know. And my working assumption, until proven shockingly different, is that they have the same attitude toward us. And that's fine.
bigtree
(86,005 posts)...I asked him if he were wealthy, if he would regard the affairs of those with a less affluent lifestyle as insignificant, if he should disregard them.
I question the utility of expectations we ascribe to others which we refuse to adhere to ourselves.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,858 posts)Harry founded in Botswana in 2006. http://sentebale.org/who-we-are/
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)JI7
(89,271 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,094 posts)Should we saturate our airwaves with their weddings, as well?
bigtree
(86,005 posts)...I'm guessing they wouldn't get the ratings.
GoCubsGo
(32,094 posts)TV ratings. Last one out of America, please turn off the lights.
bigtree
(86,005 posts)...on a Saturday morning?
Lol. The drama here.
GoCubsGo
(32,094 posts)instead of the literally exact same crap everyone else is showing.
I wonder if all y'all would feel the same way if this was Tiffany Trump's wedding, and not some foreign royalty.
John Fante
(3,479 posts)in the interest of making money. SHOCKING.
What would the founding fathers think?!
whathehell
(29,094 posts)This is the U.S. not the UK, and I'm betting even a lot of Brits have had enough at this point.
CelticWinter
(1,399 posts)a few hours of not thinking of the trailer trash in the WH, all the criminal shit he has done and all the other bull we are going through. A few hours of WOWs, now I am refreshed and ready to tackle business at hand. Although the Royals got the better end of the deal, they got Meghan and we are still stuck with tRump ughhhhhh
misanthrope
(7,428 posts)Plenty of weddings around the world, some in the towns where we live.
bigtree
(86,005 posts)...to less affluent couples.
Besides, you can't have watched those two and not seen the love between them. It's that commonality with all unions around the world, as you mention, that allows some of us to relate to their experience without cynicism.
KT2000
(20,588 posts)it was a very sweet wedding. It seemed like they were supporting each other in what must have been a very nervous experience. Looks like love to me. We need more of it - especially in the US.
Also - at this point in time, I don't think Americans are in a position to look down on England and how they do things.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Turn off the tv. Go take a walk.
Death and misery will be back in the news before you know it.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,858 posts)We can resume our usual programming in an hour or so.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Because theyre obviously watching too.
GoCubsGo
(32,094 posts)I don't think this is what our Founding Fathers envisioned when they started this country. The whole spectacle is utterly disgusting.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Surely you know that?
GoCubsGo
(32,094 posts)But. since we aren't, and since we are in the biggest crisis our country has faced since the Civil War...
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)now and into the far future. And that is just the short list.
GoCubsGo
(32,094 posts)whathehell
(29,094 posts)if you follow approval ratings for this administration.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)What is going to happen when Sinclair Broadcasting starts pumping out the BS on a zillion sources across the US. It's like Joseph Goebbels is back from Germany WWII
MountCleaners
(1,148 posts)And worship of people who were born into a certain family, and the elistist ass-kissing are on every damn channel IN A REPUBLIC!
Sentimentality and emotionalism is anti-Enlightenment. It's why we have Trump as President, and why evangelicals think "God" appointed him to be president.
Dalida
(26 posts)And I think that was the point of the poster you replied to...
Funtatlaguy
(10,887 posts)Its against everything we supposedly stand for as Americans.
Nobody is royal or regal.
We are all created equal
Screw the British and their yellow teeth and depressed sense of humor.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,858 posts)Which, btw, is now our greatest ally, or was until Trump started pissing in the punch bowl. They can put on their shows however they like. I thought it was a lovely wedding.
Funtatlaguy
(10,887 posts)Thats different.
I plum shore thought it was a happenin in tuscaloser Alabama.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Turn off your tv. No one is making you watch.
Funtatlaguy
(10,887 posts)Not a good quality
onenote
(42,767 posts)And by extension what people should watch
MountCleaners
(1,148 posts)Those former imperialists are there to cheer on imperialism! It's in their blood.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)OneBro
(1,159 posts)MountCleaners
(1,148 posts)Dalida
(26 posts)But hey! Small "r" for republican, please!
OneBro
(1,159 posts)Theyd be more horrified by Trump and the Republican led Congress and would likely smile at the current British monarchy. I do agree, though, that some of our founding fathers would be thoroughly outraged that Markle has a black mom.
JI7
(89,271 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,094 posts)Yeah, world wars and weddings of members of a monarchy are the all the same. Sure.
JI7
(89,271 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,094 posts)JI7
(89,271 posts)show it.
GoCubsGo
(32,094 posts)They could have streamed it online for the rest of the world who is interested.
JI7
(89,271 posts)EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,094 posts)I think they'd be appalled at the obsession may Americans have with the British monarchy.
Nobody is saying Americans can't enjoy it. We are saying that this event does not warrant the obsessive, wall-to-wall coverage it has been getting at the expense of everything else.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,094 posts)EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,858 posts)I loved it because I enjoy the chance to witness a happy event in the middle of all the wretchedness and despair and misery and death and trumpitude that surrounds us all the goddamn time. I especially enjoyed seeing a black clergyman give a wonderful, warmhearted sermon in the middle of a stuffy old C of E ceremony (which actually seems to have been updated a bit from what was used in my own wedding in the Episcopal church 40 years ago), and to hear a black gospel choir as well as the lovely voices of the little choirboys singing Thomas Tallis' gorgeous "If Ye Love Me" (about 1550). The British royal family are probably the whitest people in the world, and it was excellent to see them welcome a young woman of color. She might do a lot to enliven that bunch.
Yes, they are wealthy and privileged. I don't care. I loved the whole thing and I hope they live happily ever after.
Now we can return to our regular programming.
BumRushDaShow
(129,491 posts)and the Church of England is our (we Episcopalians) "mother church".
The Most Rev. Curry evoked the spirit of Rev. Absolom Jones -
who founded Episcopal/Anglican worship for African Americans here in Philadelphia -
with Rev. Richard Allen (who founded the African-Methodist-Episcopal church) -
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,858 posts)That's my tradition too.
BumRushDaShow
(129,491 posts)(especially because many here on DU think he is some random "black gospel minister" or some such term)
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,858 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,491 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)I mean, a man of high standing and position marrying a person of color.
You are correct. They would be horrified.
Crunchy Frog
(26,645 posts)EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)NBachers
(17,141 posts)You are being sarcastic in your over-the-top outrage, aren't you?
Everyone Who Likes This Wedding Is Being Unpatriotic And Disloyal To The USA And Our Founding Fathers!!L1!
GoCubsGo
(32,094 posts)No. I'm just appalled at the obsession this country has with the British royalty, especially when this country was founded, in large part, to get away from them. You are free to enjoy the damn wedding. I really don't give a shit. The wedding of the 6th in line to the British throne does not deserve wall-to-wall coverage in the United States. I honestly do not understand why some Americans are so fixated on these people, or why our media think the rest of us should be.
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)The UK is our closest ally, and from whose culture America was birthed. The UK is doing just fine, they have a better and more just culture, more inclusiveness, and sure have a better Social Welfare system than we do. All that, and still maintain the Royal Family. Beam, meet Mote.
As to why we like it? It's love, and we all hope for that.
What else would be on TV on a Saturday morning? Too early for sports, and we can't have real cartoons like the Classic Looney Tunes, Merrie Melodies and Tom and Jerry, because the PTA and other curmudgeons have labeled them as too violent, or racist or sexist, or some other BS.
It's like a lot of things. If you don't like, don't watch it.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)She's happy for Harry and Meghan and loved Meghan's dress. So there's that.
GoCubsGo
(32,094 posts)I loved the dress, too. I just don't think that the wedding of royalty from another county rises to the level of media attention it is being given here.
Crunchy Frog
(26,645 posts)than anything going on in the UK. I like to think our Founding Fathers would feel the same way.
A British royal wedding, and the Trump crime family squatting in the White House. Not even remotely comparable on the horror scale.
Most likely the greatest source of horror would have been the whole race mixing thing, but I'd hope that most modern DU types would be past having issues over that sort of thing.
GoCubsGo
(32,094 posts)Which is why I wish our press/media would have put the kind of time they put into covering this Hallmark Channel event into covering the squatters in the White House and the rest of their crime syndicate.
wonkwest
(463 posts)Id guess our founders wouldnt quite catch that one.
Im fine ^^
BumRushDaShow
(129,491 posts)the imagery and overlay of the acceptance of "race" (and race-mixing) is significant.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)bigtree
(86,005 posts)...not something earth-shattering, but for those whose lives have been a progression from days when 'race-mixing' wasn't as prevalent or accepted as it is today, I'm sure there's a fascination (that I share) watching this relic of an empire brook this breach of royal tradition.
BumRushDaShow
(129,491 posts)the Windsors had to bolster the genes in that family so they wouldn't die out (one of the reasons for Diana, who added height).
bigtree
(86,005 posts)EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)We're so used to not really being a part of things, even things we think are fun and interesting - it's a lot of fun to feel a part of this.
Docreed2003
(16,876 posts)And without a freaking war!
BumRushDaShow
(129,491 posts)And at least Elizabeth made the first move to dismantle most of the rest of their empire. Sadly it left those countries a basket case but.... baby steps.
misanthrope
(7,428 posts)The one who could drink from the "white" fountain in 1954 Montgomery, Alabama and no one would bat an eye? Didn't she grow up behind the walls of secluded privilege as well?
BumRushDaShow
(129,491 posts)would have been at the back of the bus and god forbid her mom!
Just ask Mr. Homer Plessy!!!
His case was settled 122 years ago yesterday where his octoroon self was not enough to sit in a white train car.
misanthrope
(7,428 posts)It was specifically caused and he was chosen for a reason, mainly because he could "pass" and the public ramifications thereof. Plessy was easily able to ride "whites only" streetcars but attention was purposefully drawn to him for this case, to the point the rail line was notified days in advance of the intentions.
You put Meghan Markle in any crowd of locals from Valencia to Beirut and she would blend in easily.
Jazz drummer Art Blakey used to sidestep Jim Crow lodging laws by donning foreign garb and using his Muslim name, Abdullah Ibn Buhaina. He had a far darker complexion and more truly African appearance than Markle.
But my perspective is born from a lifetime of listening to stories from African-American friends and tantamount family relay their experiences of life in the Deep South. After hearing and witnessing what they've endured, Markle's trials seem to pale in comparison.
That said, my perspective is just one shaped by my time and place. It's subject to those inherent biases.
https://www.vogue.com/article/meghan-markle-biracial-identity-politics-personal-essay
https://www.thelily.com/meghan-markle-and-the-problem-with-policing-the-identity-of-mixed-race-people/
bigtree
(86,005 posts)...are getting a great deal of harassment these days for their slightly darker than white skin, misidentified and stereotyped with harassment, discrimination, and violence.
You should stop this.
misanthrope
(7,428 posts)Talking about how silly and counterproductive our fascination with complexion and ethnicity is? About how we've built elaborate sociological and cultural structures around something with little scientific validity at its base?
My wife is third generation Lebanese-American. I'm familiar with prejudices against those who appear Arabic, how and when they do and don't appear.
I'm also familiar with her family's asinine prejudice against Jews, their more intense dislike of the Israeli state and their even worse bigotry against African-Americans incurred by their "Old World meets Old South" family dynamic.
My wife's grandfather came through Ellis Island about 100 years ago as a lone boy, a note pinned to his chest. He made it to the Deep South where distant relatives had settled.
Why were they so far away from their entry point into the U.S.? It was a smart decision, I guess.
In NYC, they would have been in a city then divided into micro communities of ethnicities: Jewish neighborhoods, Italian neighborhoods, Irish neighborhoods, etc. It might have hampered their ability to make headway in society, maybe not, but who knows.
In the Deep South, the only thing that mattered is they weren't African-American. They automatically had a leg up on about 40 percent of the people in their town just by dint of their complexion and nose shape. They were on the lucky side of the only line that mattered: they drank from the white fountain.
bigtree
(86,005 posts)...and you give these second-hand accounts about how gradation of color allow this woman some insulation from racism to the degree where her race is irrelevant to you, to the point where you portray her as privileged.
You don't have a clue what you're talking about. You haven't experienced the racism first hand and it shows in your arguments. You have provided weak and contradictory justifications for your offensive premise and are compounding your original slur.
BumRushDaShow
(129,491 posts)that once a light-skinned black is "outed", then that is the end of any "privilege".
I and others have had relatives who "passed for white" and "disappeared". But for those who did so, there was always that fear of being "discovered". Of course with DNA testing being a "thing", many are finding out what the heck apparently happened when you had that much "passing".
I think the issue of biracial children in general is whether they chose to identify with neither side and just "be biracial" or embrace one or the other culture. But the fact is in America, the white supremacist power structure will not allow someone like her to be "white" despite the fact that she might look close to being "white".
I remember years and years ago watching a movie about that (there were several done over the years) on one of the old independent stations that used to show '50s & '60s tv show reruns and old movies. I wish I could remember the name but it may have been this one - "Imitation of Life"
misanthrope
(7,428 posts)The heart of what we're discussing is self-identification. Homer Plessy had that option among strangers. So does Meghan Markle. Questlove or Lauryn Hill do not.
But as you note, there was far more danger in Plessy being "outed." Were he to climb aboard a "whites only" car and no one there knew him, then there was no consequence. If he bumped into someone who knew him or his background, then it could get dangerous.
However, if Plessy were to climb out of a car, say in 1920 Atlanta and sip from a "whites only" fountain, no one who glanced at him would think twice about it. If Louis Armstrong tried it, there would be hell to pay.
If Ms. Markle goes into an upscale shop, she's going to be treated differently my next door neighbor. If the clerk knew of Markle's fame and celebrity status, that treatment gets elevated.
The thing that is so tiresome about America's HUGE and inescapable deal with race is that it is essentially a human construct. Looking solely at genetics in scientific terms, divorced from the subjective aspects and the history makes it all look like the most ridiculous waste of human energy and emotion.
It's absolutely insane.
But we've done so. We built the walls and now we have to deal with fallout.
BumRushDaShow
(129,491 posts)and that is skin "hue" that gets layered on top of race. And it is an issue within many communities of color. I believe they term it "colorism".
But it is a fluid dynamic, not unlike the adage - "If you're white you're alright, if your yellow, you're mellow, if you're black, then step back" and so you also have certain lighter "races" who were given "honorary white" status (that could be pulled at any time on a whim). Spike Lee touched on the topic in his movie "School Daze" (that is 30 years old this year... yikes)!
So from day to day, circumstance to circumstance, one might not know where you really stand.
bigtree
(86,005 posts)...although my mother was born with skin that was indistinguishable from most white Americans (and with beautiful blond hair and hazel eyes as a compliment), she was still considered and designated on her birth record as 'Negro' and was not allowed to advantage herself of any of the non-black medical facilities. She was a graduate from the the all-black Garnet High School, which closed in 1955 due to integration.
After graduating Garnet High School, she became a supervisor at the West Virginia Industrial Home for Colored Girls in Huntington, W.Va..
Out of your depth here.
BumRushDaShow
(129,491 posts)My father was black literally looked "white" with dark brown slicked-back hair. But don't ever get up in his face and call him otherwise and he never tried to use it to his advantage (and couldn't once they saw the "negro" or "colored" on his records).
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)it didn't matter. She was colored. A negro (lowercase).
Skin tone didn't matter.
BumRushDaShow
(129,491 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)Two things ended up bringing the albino aspect to my attention, both through "entertainment" media, where the recent Black Lightning series features one and the really incredible comic series Incognegro, which has a second series running now about a murder in 1920's harlem involving a few albino characters. The comic series delves into the period really well with the social/racial issues.
https://www.comixology.com/Incognegro/comics-series/111874
https://www.comixology.com/Incognegro-Renaissance/comics-series/111206
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)able to pull it off.
And the one-drop rule would have taken care of that, anyway.
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)Distractions from reality help little.
onenote
(42,767 posts)Or go to a movie or do anything else that is a distraction from reality
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,899 posts)Atticus
(15,124 posts)while the barbarians are at the gates. But, hey---"enjoy!"
Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)Unless you're demanding that people be 100% on focus with the barbarians at the gate every minute of the day. If so, then you've already lost in your cause because that's not how people are.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,899 posts)I'm guessing your TV doesn't have an off switch, although you could unplug it.
I don't actually own a TV, but thanks to the wonder and joy of the internet I'm able to watch the wedding. I'm watching on the BBC, which probably has less dumb commentary than American networks.
Anyway, I'm sort of amazed at how many people feel compelled to post something mean or snarky about the wedding. If you're not interested, then why bother?
Atticus
(15,124 posts)was with the fact that there were NO alternatives. Whatever.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,899 posts)but are you telling me that every single channel, including the cartoon one and all the sports channels and the shopping channels were all covering the Royal wedding? Wow. I guess having an off button would be helpful.
Atticus
(15,124 posts)onenote
(42,767 posts)It sounds like you spend all your time watching news channels channels that are notoriously repetitious and duplicative. What breaking news do you think youve been denied access to this morning news that you must have this morning as opposed to this afternoon? Have you read every newspaper article, opinion piece, blog post about the issues that interest you? Have you studied every legislative initiative that this administration want to foist on us? Again, reality exists outside of the reeves
Crunchy Frog
(26,645 posts)kwassa
(23,340 posts)I think need a little more.
MountCleaners
(1,148 posts)...that people would take a LOT of time out of mourning dead kids to celebrate elitism and the notion that one class of people is fit to rule.
Sentimentality over people who've done NOTHING on their own to distinguish themselves, and who still insult their former colonies by visiting them, does NOT befit citizens of a republic.
If you love your country, please read the history of "republicanism" as a philosophy. Sentimentalism is illogical, irrational, and it's also a way of keeping women "traditional" and submissive.
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)Lots of us are from there. Can we not enjoy something of where we came from before we arrived here?
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Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)who obviously lost their land to the English and others.
Good to know who is able to be interested in their ancestry and who isn't.
Very telling.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,367 posts)... to the invading Angles and Saxons, who lost much of it to Vikings.
And then the Anglo-Saxon/Viking mix lost the land to the Normans.
Ancestry is complicated.
Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)Which is why, though my white privilege, I don't truly lay any claim on any of it.
I have little interest in it and have always been that way. I've done no real research on my ancestry beyond learning a bit about where my grandparents came from because my parents told me. I only knew one of the four because they had been gone by the time I came of age to actually be interested.
I know that I have privilege because of my ancestry but I've never viewed said ancestry itself as being a defining piece. I have little interest in my Scottish history or Native American ancestry among all the others. Apparently my mother's side of the family got around the world a lot and there's a big mix in there.
I don't begrudge anyone that gets seriously into it (my aunt is, almost to an obsessive level) but it plays zero factor into my daily life with raising my kids, getting my work done, and trying to enjoy myself a little bit amid all the chaos.
JI7
(89,271 posts)this stuff .
British Citizens include people from nations that were colonies.
Docreed2003
(16,876 posts)What about what Prince Harry has done for wounded veterans and his own service in Afghanistan? Is that nothing?
treestar
(82,383 posts)A tree and philanthropist
wonkwest
(463 posts)I was about where you were. Then Michael Curry gave the sermon and a black gospel choir sang "Stand By Me" and forget it. I could not care less about these things, but her community was ultra present. And Prince Charles walking her mother out. And a talented black cellist.
These are the whitest people on planet Earth.
They aren't anymore. This is so good.
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Cha
(297,691 posts)I don't have a tv so am enjoying reading those who aren't "disgusted" by it.
Mahalo, wonkwest
wonkwest
(463 posts)I'm not a celebrity watcher, but seeing the black community folded into these very, very white traditions was so much fun. As Effie said, the rendition of "Amen" was fantastic. I wish I'd been recording it.
Hope the volcano isn't harassing you!
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)much for me to take.
This is a game changer.
wonkwest
(463 posts)It was so gorgeous. Is it just "Amen"? I was trying to explain it to the mister, and we were both befuddled. "They were singing the Amen song!"
I just happened to be up at 4 AM. Flipped it on - might as well. But that was the blackest royal wedding in history. And I lived for every second of it. With her complexion, I was worried they'd maybe white-wash or attempt to. Nope. They leaned in hard to her heritage, and it was amazing.
Her poor mom, though! I know the parents are divorced, but she looked so alone during the proceedings. When Charles took her arm, I was like, finally. How proud must that one woman be though.
BumRushDaShow
(129,491 posts)I didn't sense that at all (as a black woman myself). We are used to being "alone" (she was divorced 30 years ago). I think she was probably a bit in shock regarding how she got there (metaphorically) and was trying to be staid. I would say it would be a bit overwhelming for most but her focus would be on "her baby".
wonkwest
(463 posts)I've actually been in that chapel and many other cathedrals throughout Europe, and they do have that "isolated" seating. So I understood it. I just wanted someone to hang out with her, lol. Every time the camera panned over, I was like, "Aww!"
But she exuded joy. And I was so happy she saw her own heritage given such a prominent place. In a very white establishment that might have been predilected to downplay her, Meghan and Harry made sure she and her roots were celebrated.
Best royal wedding ever.
BumRushDaShow
(129,491 posts)when my parents took us to England in 1970. We didn't get chance to venture out into the countryside to places like this chapel but I know my mother was insistent that we see Westminster Abbey. I am Episcopal and it just so happens that the seating the couple's family and VIPs were in is on the High Altar and is usually designated for the choir (I used to sing on my own church's choir and sat in seating identical to that and about as ornate, complete with the little lamps - my church building was built in the early 1800s).
So at least in that spot, you can put your stuff down on a little table in front of you and I expect that knowing the cameras would be rolling, she just folded her hands and opted to -
We always talk about Drumpf and "dog whistles" and code. Well this was a huge megaphone blast from across the pond.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,858 posts)EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)"Amen" is the common recessional in black churches. It is So beautiful and uplifting.
This Little Light of Mine
This little light of mne
I'm going to let it shine
Oh, this little light of mine
I'm going to let it shine
Hallelujah
This little light of mine
I'm going to let it shine
Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine
Ev'ry where I go
I'm going to let it shine
Oh, ev'ry where I go
I'm going to let it shine
Hallelujah
Ev'ry where I go
I'm going to let it shine
Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine
All in my house
I'm going to let it shine
Oh, all in my house
I'm going to let it shine
Hallelujah
All in my house
I'm going to let it shine
Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine
I'm not going to make it shine
I'm just going to let it shine
I'm not going to make it shine
I'm just going to let it shine
Hallelujah
I'm not going to make it shine
I'm just going to let it shine
Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine
Out in the dark
I'm going to let it shine
Oh, out in the dark
I'm going to let it shine
Hallelujah
Out in the dark
I'm going to let it shine
Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine
BumRushDaShow
(129,491 posts)You got me singing!
wonkwest
(463 posts)I was unfamiliar with Amen
Now that you mention it, with the wedding, Im like oh right. An ex was black and wed go to church, and thats where Id heard that. Recessional. As we were walking out. I never noticed. But its so, so pretty.
Black people have the best church music. I can say that because Im Catholic and bored.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)This Little Light of Mine was one of the iconic inspirational songs of the American civil rights movement. People tend to remember We Shall Overcome, but This Little Light was right there, too.
I love those two crazy kids.
Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)You sound just like when people complain about:
Superbowl
World Series
Any major sporting event
Any major movie event
Or, you know, anything that's unrelated to politics.
There's a billion channels and a billion places to get your fix if you need it. The main stories of the day aren't disappearing. They'll be there and they are there right now.
But kvetch away if it makes you feel better since there are likeminded souls here. Most people will just not pay attention to the wedding at all or its coverage and just go about their day.
Funtatlaguy
(10,887 posts)Every one.
Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)Why is that so hard? If it is that hard and you're having withdrawals, then I'd say THAT is where the problem is.
JI7
(89,271 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)Watching cable news and complaining online!
And maybe some tweeting if we understand how to use that thing.
JI7
(89,271 posts)is being some revolutionary .
the royals these days don't get much coverage. only during the weddings and the births. and even the birth of the recent 3rd child didn't get that much attention.
i wonder if some of these people do anything other than watch cable news all.
Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)You do get that sense from it because it's something that comes up during every big non-political news event. We see the same every super bowl, world series, etc.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)wonkwest
(463 posts)I never watch cable news, so I always have to interpret what people are on about. "This guy on this show!" Ok. . . And . . .
GoCubsGo
(32,094 posts)I get my news from the networks. Every last one of them, including PBS, is covering this asinine dog and pony show.
JI7
(89,271 posts)Atticus
(15,124 posts)are NOT "plenty of places" to watch the real news: there are NO such places. But, yeah, rewrite it however it suits you.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Atticus
(15,124 posts)meet with your approval.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Atticus
(15,124 posts)kwassa
(23,340 posts)JI7
(89,271 posts)EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)But it was very irresponsible of them to pre-empt "LockUp" and "Dateline" reruns in the wee hours of the morning. Think of all of the important stuff we may have missed!
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,858 posts)that gets a lot of TV coverage - the Superbowl, the Olympics, the Oscars, a celebrity wedding/birth/funeral, even the release of a new Apple product, there will be folks who harrumph and grumble about how trivial and meaningless the event is and how superficial and gullible are its watchers, and what the hell is wrong with you people for being such silly sheep for watching this garbage when there are bad things going on all over the world and yet you are watching this crap when you could be righteously complaining on the Internet about all the bad things that you forgot all about???
Pendrench
(1,358 posts)Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)He's probably insanely jealous that the media isn't focused on him right now. If this wedding distracts media attention from his bullshit, I am all for it.
Cha
(297,691 posts)I don't have a tv but am happy reading those who are enjoying it.
I adore good love stories
Good Morning!
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Funtatlaguy
(10,887 posts)Sycophany is so sad.
whathehell
(29,094 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Funtatlaguy
(10,887 posts)Enjoy what you will.
My criticism shouldnt diminish your fawning over these foreign elites.
Enjoy away.
Have a crumpet or two, my liege.
Blue_Adept
(6,402 posts)whathehell
(29,094 posts)So maybe it's you who should "quit whining".
whathehell
(29,094 posts)It is hardly worth all that attention.
JI7
(89,271 posts)EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)And we can only imagine how much that little chain and pendant she was wearing cost.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,858 posts)Nobody wears hats any more, and I look stupid in hats so wouldn't wear one anyhow except if I'd been invited to this wedding, but I love seeing other women's hats at these events.
NBachers
(17,141 posts)Why, why, this is an outrage!!L!11!!
I remember walking to church with my mom while she was wearing these wide stylish Jackie Kennedy hats. I was a kid, and a bit embarrassed that she was doing something that was drawing so much attention to herself. I now realize how tres chic she really was, but at the time, I kind of kept myself a little further away from her.
Good for you on the hats!
samnsara
(17,636 posts)Hav
(5,969 posts)This thread is hilarious though.
But god damn it, this isn't what the founding fathers envisioned when they started this country!!!11
davekriss
(4,628 posts)kwassa
(23,340 posts)kentuck
(111,110 posts)It must bother him a lot for someone else to get so much coverage. :-
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Congratulations
llmart
(15,553 posts)I, for one, think it's refreshing to see the love, lovely weather, pomp and history rather than sitting around in the US watching people get slaughtered by guns. Letting all that negativity take your life over doesn't help a thing.
Maybe some Americans will see that not everything revolves around what's going on in the United States.
MountCleaners
(1,148 posts)Those uniforms and castles and ridiculous wealth and worship of people who were born into a certain family (not to mention to this day according status to people who were born into it) is NOT cute and charming and entertaining. It's ugly, and it's painful to read about if your ancestors were on the wrong side of it.
JI7
(89,271 posts)many of those attending have family or immigrated themselves from places the british colonized.
the royal family is not what it use to be. they have no actual power. and most of them are actually doing very good things for the country and world.
both william and harry served in the military. they have privilege but they have given more than people like the trumps and kardashians.
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)The royal family members actually work very hard to get people to support children's hospitals, wounded veterans, medical research and services for the needy. I read once that the family raises over 50% of all charitable giving, and if the wealthy don't pony up, they don't get invited to future functions. They also champion businesses by granting royal appointments to butchers, bakers, etc. plus, there's a freaking tourism fortune because of them.
That being said, I'm glad we don't have a monarchy. I just wish we had the charitable giving structure they've created.
hlthe2b
(102,376 posts)will have on that monarchy? Given how far backwards the US has gone since Trump took office, the hatred, the violence, the racism, the misogyny, the homophobia, I look at this as at least ONE positive.
JI7
(89,271 posts)MountCleaners
(1,148 posts)shot them at school, you wouldn't find this fawning and WEAK emotionalism and hero-worship of "beautiful" people...i.e. ELITISM cute and charming.
I'm upset, as an empathic human being, about another slaughter and don't appreciate the interruption by all of the networks to remind us that some people are just naturally more important than others.
I can't switch emotional gears like that. What if it were my kids who were shot. Sorry, I'm not so trivial-minded and pampered that I am willing to forget the crisis our country is in so I can worship the beautiful and elite.
JI7
(89,271 posts)a privileged born into wealth type. her mother is working class . many of the kids who have been shot and killed were into things that you would consider elitist .
this is like the fucking gun nut right wingers who post pictures of Parkland kids smiling and laughing as an attack on them. as if the problem is them enjoying each other or finding some joy in life rather than the fucked up gun policies.
onenote
(42,767 posts)Do you spend every day incapable of enjoying anything?
MountCleaners
(1,148 posts)...is personal to some of us, and we do feel triggered and upset when it happens again. I find it difficult to shift gears to ooo and ah about a bunch of filthy rich people and their wedding when I'm upset and afraid because extremist violence keeps happening.
The media should have been more sober and serious in its coverage. I can understand covering it, but the chirpy flippant way they shifted emotional tone was inappropriate. As a nation we should be grieving when another mass shooting happens and pay some respects to the families and classmates who lost loved ones.
This was a terrorist attack, and had a bomb gone off, I'm sure the coverage would have been better considered.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)on any day because of it?
Or do you only get worked up about kids killed in mass shootings?
MountCleaners
(1,148 posts)Excuse me for being human and getting upset and pissing on your royal worship. I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings but yes, school shootings do upset me and how dare you question my sensitivity. It's personal. But because royal weddings don't thrill me, I must somehow be an awful person.
Fine. I won't get upset at mass shootings anymore. I did say it was personal, I'm sorry you had so little regard for my humanity that you don't read my posts.
Cha
(297,691 posts)disgusted by love.. support it. We sure don't have it in power structure of the USA now.
Harry and Meghan are setting examples for the world. We had the Obamas love story and now England has the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.
Kilgore
(1,733 posts)There are about a million other news and entertainment channels out there. Pick another.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Kilgore
(1,733 posts)dlk
(11,578 posts)EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Sorry you don't see any good in it.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)What the hell makes you think every one of us hasnt visited both stories?
snowybirdie
(5,239 posts)Lighten up and enjoy happy moment. We all need it.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)MountCleaners
(1,148 posts)telling little girls that they can grow up to be princesses is sexist brainwashing.
I love how being a republican - a legitimate political body of thought with a long history - is now a character failure and not, like, rational thought.
Vinca
(50,304 posts)Lovely day, beautiful people and no Donald Trump.
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)You're upset because the coverage of this event has somehow forced you to watch it, I guess. It was all over the TV this morning, as my wife and I watched the news and drank our coffee. I watched a little of it and then read the paper with the coverage on in the background.
I don't care about the British royal family either. Apparently, though, many people were interested in this wedding between a prince of the realm and a bi-racial, American divorcee. It's a bit unusual, really. So, what I noticed was that nobody seemed to care, really, about all that. It was just a wedding. I didn't see any racists out there protesting at all. It's just an event. Americans are interested because there is an American bride.
Now that it's over, we'll return to our regular programming.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)at how impactful this event really is. I didn't expect it.
It's far more than JUST a royal wedding. It has social implications that go far beyond that, with a mixed race American joining the royal family. There was a gospel choir that sang Stand By Me (at a wedding??? and not just any wedding, a British wedding! a British ROYAL Wedding! A Ben E. King song??? Wow.)
And this: Rev. Michael Curry, the presiding bishop of the Episcopal Church in AMERICA gave the sermon and it wasn't like any other sermon, I hear (haven't yet watched it) -- First, he's black. Second, he quoted MLK, Jr. in the sermon. AT A BRITISH ROYAL WEDDING.
I'm not able to properly articulate it, it was something I sensed as well as learned as I watched in the after-ceremony coverage, but THIS IS EARTH SHATTERING stuff and the social implications will be felt for generations to come. It also brings the monarchy firmly into the 21st century.
We all have different attitudes, beliefs and preferences, so it's perfectly okay for you to be all bah humbug about it for yourself. But if you think this is just unnecessary foolishness with no importance or relevance, you're quite wrong.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)I looked forward to the wedding because I think the couple are sweet and I enjoy these kinds of diversions. But I wasn't prepared for the impact of the wedding they put together. This wasn't just a wedding. They were sending a message. It was a powerful and emotional experience for me.
When they rode off in their carriage while the black gospel choir sang "This Little Light of Mine" and "Amen," the staple closing of a black church service, I completely lost it.
And let's not even talk about the image of the black woman in LOCS sitting directly across from the Queen and walking with Prince Charles to go observe their children sign the registry. Damn.
You don't have to be black to get this, but if you ARE black, it's hard to think this is no big deal.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)It was AMAZING. As you know, I'm not black, but I absolutely exult in the transformational symbolism and imagery and reality and ...
all of it.
Exquisite and profound. And very beautiful and uplifting at a time in our world when we need that desperately.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)This, which I also think is an excellent comment on the day --
AM Joy w/Joy Reid @amjoyshow
.@jacquereid: I think it was unapologetically black... they thought #MeghanMarkle was going to be upstaged by the pomp & circumstance of the royals... not only did we see what kind of princess she's going to be, we saw Harry & who his mother raised him to be #RoyalWedding #AMJoy
Link to tweet
JDC
(10,133 posts)All politics and killing all the time makes me angry and bitter. I find I am no less informed for it.
nini
(16,672 posts)But that means you're wasting time too and not doing something productive about guns laws etc.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)Rorey
(8,445 posts)I don't resent the coverage, and it's over now, so we can go back to "shootings and treason and bribery".
Also, it doesn't bother me too much to just turn off the television. There was a time when I left it on for background noise, but now I enjoy a quieter life.
Dalida
(26 posts)I don't even know any of their names or hardly how they look except for the old bag that is queen, and her son who will apparently croak before ever ascending to the throne. Any time they're on tv I change the channel, and I skip right over any newspaper or online article that features them. I take pride in knowing as little as possible about the whole sorry lot. I can't fathom how anyone can still support monarchy in this day and age.
jalan48
(13,886 posts)M'Lord's and M'Lady's extravaganza.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)extravaganza." Or they could have just slipped away to get married in some town magistrate's office.
But, instead, they used their privilege and platform to send a unifying message of joy and meaning and diversity and change.
They rocked it and I'm deeply moved and impressed that they did.
jalan48
(13,886 posts)dalton99a
(81,590 posts)Paladin
(28,273 posts)You're welcome.
Blecht
(3,803 posts)It really is OK to leave the TV off and not click on a story in your browser. Nothing bad will happen.
tavernier
(12,401 posts)Its a wonder we win any elections.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Bradshaw3
(7,529 posts)They gave it the kind of coverage it and our media deserved.
rainin
(3,011 posts)Crunchy Frog
(26,645 posts)I'm glad for something cheery and positive amidst all the depressing crap.
panader0
(25,816 posts)John Fante
(3,479 posts)2 1/2 hours watching a frivolous event. 2 1/2 hours where I won't be obsessing about Trump.
I hope the founding fathers can forgive me.
MaryMagdaline
(6,856 posts)Hope you get some joy out of it, though
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)Mueller.. hurry!
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)onenote
(42,767 posts)resolved? Some big development uncovered that has been put in the deep freeze?
Thoughts and prayers.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Doodley
(9,129 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,858 posts)Thomas Jefferson did, though.
Britain abolished slavery in 1833; the United States didn't do it until 1863 and it took a civil war to settle the matter. So that's not a thing we in the U.S. should be up on our high horses about.
Doodley
(9,129 posts)or should I say dictatorship?
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)anybody did before I was even born .. I have no more reason than you or anyone else to be held responsible for all the bad stuff Americans have done before I was born.
JI7
(89,271 posts)and everything becomes more clear about what exactly it is people have an issue with here.
also noticed some be nice to trump supporters shit.
lame54
(35,324 posts)maveric
(16,445 posts)northoftheborder
(7,574 posts)They had British commentators who are so much more informative than the chatty US coverage on other networks.
Loved it; shed some tears; hope I live long enough to get over the black era of the US today, with a sham of a leader who isn't even ashamed of being DIS-invited to weddings and funerals.
Loved the hats, the clothes, the blending of tradition, the happy couple. That doesn't make me an ungrateful, unpatriotic, selfish person. What a lovely day for Britain and the world.
Some people's above negative comments are sad and depressing.
Hekate
(90,824 posts)President Swamp Thing and His Cesspool will still be there tomorrow morning.
BannonsLiver
(16,460 posts)Never heard that before. Cutting edge and fresh.
LenaBaby61
(6,977 posts)For those who wanted to watch the Royal Wedding, and who wanted to get away, get a respite from "bad" news events--fantastic. I'm happy that they enjoyed the Royal Wedding. That for a while, they tuned out the outside world long enough to enjoy all of the pomp and circumstance, the sights and sounds, the family, the guests and what they saw as expressions of love, hope, togetherness etc.
And for those who didn't watch the Royal Wedding, because they weren't really feeling it, or who just plain aren't into the Royal Family, their goings on, the pomp and circumstance of a Royal Wedding/get together (And no, not everyone's a Royal watcher :yowser , good on them too
We have to accept that not everyone feels the same way about the Royals, and not everybody shares the same expressions of love, romance etc. as they or the next person, and those people shouldn't be told that they're wrong for feeling the way they do. Only one friend that I've spoken to as of now watched any Royal Wedding coverage, and she said she was bought to tears over it. Cried during a sermon she said a Bishop gave about love. She said she felt pride over seeing the diversity contained within the ceremony and cried seeing a young Royal groom & his bride seemingly so much in love (She's a very emotional person ). I'm happy that my buddy & her grands spent their Royal Wedding weekend watching together, as she/grands are going through a lot right now, because her 36 year old daughter/their Mom has been battling breast cancer for a year plus, and lately it's been difficult due to the pain she's experiencing and the fact that her daughters a week ago got that YOUR insurance premiums are going up, and her husband had to take a 2nd job). Her daughter wasn't really into the wedding or anything associated with it my friend said (And it's understandable), and chose to sleep through it upstairs while she and grands watched downstairs.
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CalMark
(2 posts)I also don't give a damn. Fortunately, it's easy to ignore if you turn off the TV.
EllieBC
(3,042 posts)So much so I could shave my legs with it.
I always love the I hate the Super Bowl/World Series/Oscars/Any Big Event complaints. We get it. You think you're better for spending all day every day navel gazing and self flagellating. Good for you!
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)Id rather watch the wedding for a change.
Throck
(2,520 posts)How much was public money? Could it have been spent better otherwise on functional social programs?
PJMcK
(22,050 posts)We got rid of our cable TV service 4 or 5 years ago. All I've (not) seen about the wedding was online and it was so simple to not click on it.
To be clear, I'm with you in that I don't give a shit about the "royal" family. Or the Trumps, for that matter. Get rid of them all.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,913 posts)The British monarchy now is symbolic, so what is symbolizes is the only significance it holds. And a mixed race divorced woman marrying into the Royal Family at the highest level with full State honors and aspects of a multi-cultural ceremony, that matters.
It doesn't hurt that there's a real love story involved as well, but the above is why I gave a damn.
betsuni
(25,629 posts)Isn't it nice to see a country (not full of shootings and treason and bribery) benefiting from tourism because of a wedding?
Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)I forget when exactly that was, but I think it was in the latter half of the 18th century and some guy name Jorge Washington crossed the street or the Potomac river while he was on his way to attack Fort Sumter after the Japanese bombed and sank the USS Maine. There was something about Fort Ticonderoga, the battle of the Bulge, and the Bay of Tonkin, but I'm not really good with details. Anyways, I do remember from high school history that the CIA invaded the Bay of Pigs in a supporting operation to defeat Al Qaeda at the Alamo.
Seriously though, I don't understand the fascination with the British royal family. We fought our revolution to detach ourselves from them. Why then, nearly 250 years later, are we so fascinated and yearn to be a part of them again?