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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:04 PM Aug 2012

Reid: 'Extremely credible source' said Romney didn't pay taxes for decade (updated)

Last edited Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:39 PM - Edit history (1)

Reid: 'Extremely credible source' said Romney didn't pay taxes for decade

By MANU RAJU

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In a statement Thursday night responding to criticism, Reid said he was told by an "extremely credible source" Romney didn't pay taxes for a decade, and that the nominee is "hiding something" by refusing to release more tax returns.

Here's Reid's full statement:

"There is a controversy because the Republican presidential nominee, Governor Mitt Romney, refuses to release his tax returns. As I said before, I was told by an extremely credible source that Romney has not paid taxes for ten years. People who make as much money as Mitt Romney have many tricks at their disposal to avoid paying taxes. We already know that Romney has exploited many of these loopholes, stashing his money in secret, overseas accounts in places like Switzerland and the Cayman Islands.

“Last weekend, Governor Romney promised that he would check his tax returns and let the American people know whether he ever paid a rate lower than 13.9 percent. One day later, his campaign raced to say he had no intention of putting out any further information.

“When it comes to answering the legitimate questions the American people have about whether he avoided paying his fair share in taxes or why he opened a Swiss bank account, Romney has shut up. But as a presidential candidate, it’s his obligation to put up, and release several years’ worth of tax returns just like nominees of both parties have done for decades.

“It’s clear Romney is hiding something, and the American people deserve to know what it is. Whatever Romney’s hiding probably speaks volumes about how he would approach issues that directly impact middle-class families, like tax reform and the economy. When you are running for president, you should be an open book.

“I understand Romney is concerned that many people, Democrats and Republicans, have been calling on him to release his tax returns. He has so far refused. There is only one thing he can do to clear this up, and that’s release his tax returns.”

http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-congress/2012/08/reid-extremely-credible-source-said-romney-didnt-pay-130987.html


There is also this posted at Daily Kos:

CNN's Dana Bash: Her source can confirm Reid's Romney tax allegation (Update)

by rem123

Tonight on CNN AC360, Anderson Copper opened his 'keeping them honest' segment with Sen. Harry Reid's recent tax allegation about Mitt Romney.

Cooper had CNN Capitol Hill reporter, Dana Bash on to discuss the story, according to Bash, her source can confirm Sen. Reid's allegation. Bash went even further, she said this source also personally knows the Bain source who would have access to Romney's tax record. If this Bain source story is true, then, Mitt Romney is in serious trouble. I'll have more later.

Update @Dana Bash tweets

"When Harry Reid doesn't like someone, he goes for the jugular." - @DanaBashCNN #Romney


JUST IN: @DanaBashCNN receives a new statement from @SenatorReid's office, saying Senator #Reid has a "credible source." #Romney


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/02/1116216/-CNN-s-Dana-Bash-Her-source-can-confirm-Reid-tax-allegation


Updated to add links to the two tweet in the above:

https://twitter.com/AC360/status/231179250512850944

https://twitter.com/AC360/status/231178782772432897

Also, the Daily Kos piece now includes a clip of Begala's exchange with Cooper.

From the comments the comments.

I was very disappointed in the segment.

Anderson Cooper compared Reid's allegation to the "Terror Babies" Louis Gohmert bit. That was AFTER Dana told him she had a secondary source that confirmed Reid's story and the Bain source. She pretty much stated that there would be no question the integrity of the source if we were to know who it was.

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/1116216/47015528#c14


Anderson Cooper compared Reid to Louie Gohmert

and the Republican lunatics in congress.

Paul Begala kinda smacked him down, but AC kept at it with the false equivalency bullshit, taking Mary Matalin's side.

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/1116216/47015678#c54





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Reid: 'Extremely credible source' said Romney didn't pay taxes for decade (updated) (Original Post) ProSense Aug 2012 OP
Go Harry! malaise Aug 2012 #1
Reid's smart enough that he wouldn't go forward with this kind of accusation... backscatter712 Aug 2012 #2
He did it with a prosecutor's finesse, too. sofa king Aug 2012 #8
What is to bluff?? Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #16
As LBJ might have said, "Let Mitt deny he's coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #19
there is no way for the babies to prove they arent terror babies Enrique Aug 2012 #3
Keep up the pressure Thrill Aug 2012 #4
Could that credible source be The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2012 #5
Could it be John McCain himself? kentuck Aug 2012 #7
LOL! n/t ProSense Aug 2012 #11
Wouldn't that be juicy? The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2012 #12
Kick MittTwitt's ass Harry! speedoo Aug 2012 #6
And some liberals on Raw Story and Daily Kos said Harry should be ashamed of his heresay. part man all 86 Aug 2012 #9
Be careful. Trust but verify. Wouldn't be the first time false information was floated in order wiggs Aug 2012 #10
It's still ProSense Aug 2012 #13
I'm for Romney releasing more info....but if you watch the news it's practically the wiggs Aug 2012 #17
I'd think that Reid would be smart enough to anticipate such a trap. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #18
If Reid had real balls he would come out with the names.... Hotler Aug 2012 #14
If there is a source, Reid has nothing to worry about... kentuck Aug 2012 #15

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
2. Reid's smart enough that he wouldn't go forward with this kind of accusation...
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:11 PM
Aug 2012

Unless he indeed knew he could back it up.

He knows perfectly well that if he was bluffing, the Republicans would call him out.

So excuse me while I entertain myself by watching Rmoney and the GOP self-immolate...

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
8. He did it with a prosecutor's finesse, too.
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:26 PM
Aug 2012

He didn't say he knew that Romney didn't pay taxes. He specifically said that he didn't know himself, but that a guy who should know told him that Romney didn't pay taxes.

That might be hearsay in court, but in front of the cameras, it is bait. It focuses the attention of the press on finding Reid's source, rather than inviting the usual flying monkeys to come forward on television and slander Reid himself.

He forced the media to act responsibly, for once, by offering it as an open question rather than as a statement.

And I don't see the usual suspects crawling out of the woodwork to defend Romney, either. Not looking good for him.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
3. there is no way for the babies to prove they arent terror babies
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:11 PM
Aug 2012

whereas Mitt can dispel all speculation simply by releasing his returns.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,866 posts)
5. Could that credible source be
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:17 PM
Aug 2012

someone involved in the McCain campaign? They saw Mittens' tax returns, after all...

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,866 posts)
12. Wouldn't that be juicy?
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:44 PM
Aug 2012

McCain ostensibly supports Mittens, but he's a bitter old SOB and I wouldn't put it past him to kneecap Mittens just to make his own defeat look less embarrassing.

part man all 86

(367 posts)
9. And some liberals on Raw Story and Daily Kos said Harry should be ashamed of his heresay.
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:41 PM
Aug 2012

And Jon Stewart, eat shit and live!

wiggs

(7,819 posts)
10. Be careful. Trust but verify. Wouldn't be the first time false information was floated in order
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:42 PM
Aug 2012

to let the opposition go out on a limb only to remove the issue and the opposition when the limb breaks.

Can't let the worst candidate ever be resurrected by trickery and by letting all his faults be distilled down, in the media, to whether or not he paid a certain rate of taxes. He has far too many flaws and undesirable traits for the discussion to just come down to his tax rates that we really don't know anything about yet.

This feels too familiar.

Talk about his taxes, but in the context of his corporate raider career, his lying, his arrogance, his disconnectedness, his employment record, his 1% policies, his overseas accounts, and of the overall issue of tax fairness. It's really not ALL about his federal income tax or capital gains rate.

They don't have ANY of the issues...the only things they have are dishonesty, misinformation, tricks, voter supression, polarization, and propaganda combined with media consolidation/bias and a willingness to do anything to control the votes of their base.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
13. It's still
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:10 PM
Aug 2012

"Be careful. Trust but verify. Wouldn't be the first time false information was floated in order"

...on Romney to release his returns.

The people trying to shield Romney seem to be under the impression that the demand for Romney to release his returns is about Romney vs. Reid.

Reid could be lying, that his credibility.

Romney has to answer to the American people.



wiggs

(7,819 posts)
17. I'm for Romney releasing more info....but if you watch the news it's practically the
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:46 PM
Aug 2012

only issue that gets any play. Pundits and dem leaders should mention returns and express dismay and astonishment at the lack of transparency...and I'm fine with pundits even out loud assuming the WORST from his returns....but I want them to acknowledge that there are many more important campaign issues to talk about and then fight on the issues.

Eggs in one basket = risk

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
18. I'd think that Reid would be smart enough to anticipate such a trap.
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 12:27 AM
Aug 2012

If I were Reid, I wouldn't make such accusations unless I had iron-clad proof, because the blowback from making such an accusation if it turns out to be false is pretty obvious.

Hotler

(11,445 posts)
14. If Reid had real balls he would come out with the names....
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:14 PM
Aug 2012

of the people that told him Rmoney hasn't paid taxes in tenn years.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
15. If there is a source, Reid has nothing to worry about...
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:22 PM
Aug 2012

And I think there is a source.

The pickle would be between Romney and the source, not Reid. He is only reporting what he has heard or has been told. He doesn't have a lot at risk in this story actually.

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