It's the window dressing of patriotism. What the players are doing is a real expression of what that flag flies for.

But, the deplorable and their pResident got their panties in a bunch over how black (and therefore, OBVIOUSLY unamerican) all those football players were, so something just had to be done, or the snowflakes might have to melt and join the rest of us in the pot. God forbid.

These idiots are why we can't have nice things.

Just running around out-flagging one and other while the topic of oppression is sidelined.

They dragged us into their hypocrisy on this one.

How respectful.

George W Bush actually signed a US flag with a pen & a photo was taken & the right was never outraged about that. I'm sick of their hypocritical fake outrage.

You know I have seen flag themed trash cans and shoes which has got to be the least respectful uses of the flag. Nobody ever complains except me though.
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of something my sister said to me a couple days after 9/11. She said, "our government can't put together a rapid response to a terrorist attack on New York City, but our department stores are already selling red, white and blue thong underwear". She told me she had walked by a department store window and there they were in the window.

For reference sake, she lives in a large city and walks most everywhere AND she served in Viet Nam.

The blue and white parts need to go, the stripes should al run horizontally, and the correct color scheme is black and white.

Of Kid rock wearing it?

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they'll also stop selling beer and food during the playing of the anthem or ban Roseann Barr from ever singing it again?

It should be league policy.

The Internets are replete with examples of violations of this code. Feel free to put your favorite search engine to work here.

I’m waiting for someone to confront me about the fact that I don’t put my hand over my heart during the playing of a former drinking melody that now serves as our national anthem. My response? Standing “at attention” is appropriate. Putting your hand over your left nipple displays ignorance if not disrespect: your heart is behind your sternum, not your boob (or moob, in many cases).


Oh, and the NFL owners have done just fine without my patronage (on-site or on TV) so far. They’ll just have to continue to manage without me from now on.

Everyone mentions what a difficult melody it is to sing...however, it is much easier to sing when you're loaded on whiskey.

The player had a good point. He does point out the hypocrisy of the NFL about following civic protocols. He did not "lay waste" to anything. He will be ignored except by those who support his point of view.

People have wrapped themselves in the flag literally, for decades to somehow prove their patriotism. I have always believed that patriotism is about wanting to make your country better, more just, more fair, more compassionate. I see patriots as not afraid to point out areas where the country needs to do better.

I see what the NFL is doing and what the right wingers are doing as "nationalism" or "jingoism" rather than patriotism.

So a blanket with a flag on it is OK, but using a U.S. flag as a blanket violates the code.

From the flag code:

" The words 'flag, standard, colors, or ensign', as used herein, shall include any flag, standard, colors, ensign, or any picture or representation of either, or of any part or parts of either, made of any substance or represented on any substance, of any size evidently purporting to be either of said flag, standard, colors, or ensign of the United States of America or a picture or a representation of either, upon which shall be shown the colors, the stars and the stripes, in any number of either thereof, or of any part or parts of either, by which the average person seeing the same without deliberation may believe the same to represent the flag, colors, standard, or ensign of the United States of America. "

Also: "The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discarded."

It's fun when you run into some teabagger type with flag bandanas, t-shirts, decals, etc., to point out that they are disrespecting the flag and violating the flag code.

...the section from which you quote specifically limits the scope of the restrictions in that section to the District of Columbia.

I also point out that the original pledge of allegiance was written by a Baptist minister.

Especially as underwear touching the genitals? - If someone is going to make claims about how another person's behavior is "disrespect" of the flag.

Yes, one can say it's "not a flag" but some of these look like they could have been cut from one.

I mean, seriously.

But THAT is what an American Male backside SHOULD ALWAYS look like, and too many of them look more like the pResidents huge ass. So I'm not convinced that that right there is a misuse of the flag lol, as it supports what America should aspire to be at our very best, right?

=)

in fact, it's quite an attractive butt. If I were the owner of it, I would certainly put it on display!

All I'm saying is that if people want to get into a discussion of ways to "desecrate" the American flag, I'm not certain putting it between the buttcheeks (whether for real or on clothing) can be considered less disrespectful. The people who scream about football players taking a knee are the ones sitting their asses on American flag couch cushions and declaring their patriotism on July 4th eating off American flag disposable plates and napkins spilling food on an American flag blanket on the ground.

I've no problem with a flag properly adorning clothing like a patch or a nice design, but if you wanna talk respect, don't sit on the flag or use it to support your genitals.

My Respect (nods head sagely).

the flag would be oriented as you'd expect!

.... "G" string version. You know how curious some friends can be. Does Liddy actually have no pecker? The frontal shot looks kinda void and vacant of even a shred of manliness. Nice man boobs though.

NT.

Now as a patriot, I must insist you remove that flag from your nethers so we can properly fly it from this pole!

(No really...this flagpole in the ground here...I wasn't implying anything improper!)

Sorta like the kiss cam, but with people on the phone, buying beer, talking to the person next to them. This includes people in the owners boxes.

An Iowan who routinely could light it up....

No Texan fan will forget this: In 2007, the Houston Texans trailed the Tennessee Titans 32–7 entering the fourth quarter. Rosenfels tied an NFL record by throwing four 4th-quarter touchdown passes, to give the Texans a 36–35 lead before Rob Bironas kicked his NFL-record 8th field goal to give the Titans a 38–36 win.

PS: Check out the rest of his twitter feed:

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.... its wicked!

Non-citizens do not have to honor the flag.

Maybe she knows exactly how she's supposed to behave in that circumstance heh...

Europeans don't suffer from American's flag fetish.

their trucks, flapping until the flags are rags. Military brat here. And they make me mad.

being ignore they've fouled the lanyard and can't be lowered are the worst.

And this issue has never been about respect for the flag, or patriotism, at all.

-- Mal

Things such as these are only picked up for convenience and they are truly radical by definition

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advocating or based on thorough or complete political or social change; representing or supporting an extreme or progressive section of a political party.
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Rectangular, with a given ratio of length to width. Those shirts look like a flag was cut into pieces to create that appearance. "Cutting to pieces" must be in there somewhere, as well.

Chris Kluwe was great on Nicolle Wallace yesterday. He made a point that needs to made more often drawing a clear distinction between the military, whose job description includes killing people in war, and police who are a civil authority designed to as guardrails to maintain a civil society. I really wish he would run for an elected office somewhere.

Chris Long is outstanding as well.

Section 8 of the Flag Code

(c) The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.

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I dont have a problem with it the rule


First I don't have a problem with the players kneeling. I think the outrage is overplayed and dumb. Matter of fact, I don't even like that they play the National Anthem at sporting events. I guess I'm not patriotic.


But the outrage is real and the NFL owners as a business have a right to put rules in place to protect their business. No different than any other company. NBA has a rule in place.

Good on him.