Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

RandySF

(58,939 posts)
Sun May 27, 2018, 04:18 PM May 2018

If Democrats are having a civil war, nobody told the voters

To peruse the coverage of the Democratic primaries of 2018, you’d think there was a battle royale within the Democratic Party: insurgent vs. establishment, Bernie vs. Hillary, progressive vs. moderate, grass roots vs. party bosses.

There’s been mention of a “battle between progressives and moderates” (the Guardian), a Democratic “identity crisis” (The Post), a “full-blown Democratic war” (CNN), a “civil war” (Fox News) and a “fight for the future of the Democratic Party” (BuzzFeed).

But if a civil war has been declared, somebody forgot to tell Democratic voters. They are stubbornly refusing to view 2018 through the progressive/moderate, insurgent/establishment lens.

In the Georgia Democratic gubernatorial primary Tuesday night, the winning candidate was a progressive darling who also had a lot of establishment support. In Kentucky on Tuesday night, a former Marine fighter pilot defeated an establishment favorite in a congressional primary.

But in Texas, a House candidate backed by the Sanders-inspired “Our Revolution” and trashed by the establishment Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) went down by a lopsided 2-to-1 margin.

In Nebraska a week earlier, a progressive congressional candidate upset a centrist in a House primary. But in Pennsylvania that same night, two congressional candidates backed by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) lost to candidates with establishment ties.

Those trying to plot these races on the progressive/centrist axis or the insurgent/establishment axis will have trouble discerning a pattern. That’s because those are false choices this year. Those distinctions are not driving voters in 2018.

Overriding all other considerations this year in Democratic voters’ minds (and candidates’ messages) is stopping President Trump and his congressional enablers. Related to that is the other major influence of this primary season: a huge rise in support for female candidates among men and women alike, likely driven by Trump’s misogyny, the #MeToo movement and Hillary Clinton’s loss in 2016.

In Texas on Tuesday, the Democratic primary runoff in the 7th Congressional District, in suburban Houston, was supposed to be a Democratic donnybrook, according to the media narrative. The DCCC — a.k.a. the establishment — took the unusual step of criticizing candidate Laura Moser because party leaders thought she couldn’t win in November. In response, Our Revolution — a.k.a. the insurgents — jumped into the race and attempted to portray her opponent, Lizzie Pannill Fletcher, as a tool of the establishment.

But when all the ballots were counted, it was no contest. Fletcher got 67 percent to Moser’s 33 percent. Those who followed the media narrative of the campaign will conclude that this was a major victory for the establishment, and for moderates. They would be dead wrong.

I didn’t write about the race, because my wife is Fletcher’s pollster. But one piece of Fletcher’s polling, printed here with the campaign’s permission, shows how phony the establishment vs. insurgent narrative was: Likely Democratic voters in the district had a highly positive view of the insurgent Sanders: 74 percent favorable, 15 percent unfavorable. But guess what? Their view of the establishment doyenne Hillary Clinton was virtually identical: 72 percent favorable, 17 percent unfavorable. If this was supposed to be a Democratic civil war, Democratic voters were noncombatants.

Certainly, there are policy differences among Democrats, and those will come out whenever they are again in a position to govern rather than resist. But Democrats are more ideologically homogenous than they have been historically. The Southern conservatives are long gone, and there is no equivalent to the “New Democrats” of the Bill Clinton era. The party has been pulled to a populist consensus by Sanders and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), and pushed there by the Trump plutocracy, which has showered riches on the wealthy and the corporate.

Some within the party are fomenting division with litmus tests, such as Tom Steyer’s effort to get Democrats to commit to impeaching Trump. But while 71 percent of Democrats want impeachment, according to last month’s Quinnipiac Poll, there’s little evidence that voters are punishing candidates who don’t commit to what would be a futile gesture without a Democratic supermajority in the Senate.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/if-democrats-are-having-a-civil-war-nobody-told-the-voters/2018/05/25/849c6f3e-5eca-11e8-a4a4-c070ef53f315_story.html?utm_term=.601298d910c5

13 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
If Democrats are having a civil war, nobody told the voters (Original Post) RandySF May 2018 OP
The media loves the war narrative. guillaumeb May 2018 #1
I have been a Democrat since the early 60s. DURHAM D May 2018 #2
They need to check their sources! It's creepy seeing these baseless whoppers. Judi Lynn May 2018 #3
If I were running for office and I were asked about the I question DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #4
Love this! karin_sj May 2018 #5
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2018 #6
Is it just me, or have all the Dems found a strong, reasonable but also progressive voice? DemocracyMouse May 2018 #7
K&R GOTV!!!!! nt backtoblue May 2018 #8
K&R Scurrilous May 2018 #9
Will Rogers said, "I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat." Honeycombe8 May 2018 #10
All politics is local... Wounded Bear May 2018 #11
really appreciated this one MBS May 2018 #12
K&R GaryCnf May 2018 #13

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
2. I have been a Democrat since the early 60s.
Sun May 27, 2018, 04:34 PM
May 2018

We are always having a civil war according to the media.

yawn

Judi Lynn

(160,555 posts)
3. They need to check their sources! It's creepy seeing these baseless whoppers.
Sun May 27, 2018, 04:48 PM
May 2018

So odd of them to start inventing stories, when they have more than they are willing to cover with the monster who calls himself the "President."

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
4. If I were running for office and I were asked about the I question
Sun May 27, 2018, 04:50 PM
May 2018

I would say the president should be judged like everybody else, no better or no worse.

karin_sj

(810 posts)
5. Love this!
Sun May 27, 2018, 06:30 PM
May 2018

And this is why we have to stop rehashing the "Bernie vs. Hillary" wars of the 2016 election and focus on keeping a united front. What counts is getting Democrats elected this November!

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
7. Is it just me, or have all the Dems found a strong, reasonable but also progressive voice?
Sun May 27, 2018, 06:48 PM
May 2018

It seems all the candidates have shifted somewhat to the left and in unison – but doing so with the sober maturity of a centrist. This might be described as the "progressive middle" if you'll forgive an ornery term. Each region demands a different set of issues be emphasized, but on the whole the party is quite instinctively backing the principle of getting a "better deal" for the people. And the party establishment is too right down to the inherently progressive term "a better deal."

We have never been more unified. The party of civil rights, workers rights, women's rights and the Voting Rights Act is back. Don't let the clueless paste an old moniker on the party. We're unified and the only difference, really, is our level of anger at Trump and the Republicans – and that's a matter of taste, not policy.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
10. Will Rogers said, "I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat."
Sun May 27, 2018, 06:57 PM
May 2018

In modern times, the Dems have consistently been contrary with each other and a tad disorganized. That is what happens, when you are more inclusive. There is a wider spectrum of beliefs in the Democratic Party members.

This year it looks like the Democrats have for the most part embraced the fact that we will all work together, to do what is necessary to get Democrats (and liberal independents, if a Democrat can't win) elected. Progressive or moderate of left-leaning independent, those are anti-Republican votes, both in elections and in the Senate/House. And above all, anti-Trump.

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
11. All politics is local...
Sun May 27, 2018, 06:59 PM
May 2018

Candidates around the country need to run on issues that matter to who they plan to represent. That means some areas will go farther left than others.

Nationally, the country has needed a decided lurch to the left for a long, long time. Right now, I don't worry too much about how far left any individual candidate runs. I like my guy for the most part and he'll get my vote.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»If Democrats are having a...