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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,714 posts)
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 03:50 PM Jun 2018

The John McCain documentary on HBO is extraordinary

I couldn't disagree more with most of his politics but his essential character is exemplary. In the heat of the moment I wrote the most derogatory things about him here on this board. I wish I could have them back.

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hlthe2b

(102,373 posts)
1. Yeah... knowing his history is the only thing that held me back when he said or did something
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 03:55 PM
Jun 2018

really crappy. He's not like a Cheney or a Rumsfeld. When he does go, I hope it is peaceful, as pain-free as possible, and I will show respect.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
3. He is a complex man...He gets sooo much right, and then in the next moment makes a move
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 09:45 PM
Jun 2018

that I struggle to understand.

mountain grammy

(26,655 posts)
4. Was going to watch it last night
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 09:51 PM
Jun 2018

then I saw a doc on Joe Namath, and watched that instead.. My main beef with McCain? his opposition to a Martin Luther King Jr. national holiday. Of course, he's "evolved."

Joe Namath is a better man. He never had to "evolve" on race.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
5. No man is completely perfect, or completely corrupt.
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 09:58 PM
Jun 2018

What I can say about John McCain is that I believe, had he won in 2008, he would have done his best to do what he thought was right by the country. I might have vehemently disagreed with most of what he would have thought was right, but I think he would have been making decisions with his perception of the country's welfare foremost in mind.

And we certainly don't have that quality in the Oval Office now

Closest thing to it is the Scary True-Believer Zealot that's the stand-in for this Reality TV Presidency, and again, for all I would have been disagreeing with McCain about wars and spending, he was too moderate socially to get Republicans to support him.

I hope every time someone from his side predicts his imminent demise in a negative way it adds to his life expectancy. Guessing at the kind of person it takes to not take the "get out of hell free" card he was offered, and not come back broken in spirit after years of captivity, I think it probably does.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
6. John McCain isn't perfect - who is? - but he's a good man and has always done what he thought was
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 10:05 PM
Jun 2018

right. I have tremendous respect for him.

I wish him the best. I pray for his healing and if that is not God's will, I pray for his journey to be eased and his heart to be rested and his soul to be at peace.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
7. MAGAts say the ugliest things about him.
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 10:11 PM
Jun 2018

Worse than I've heard anyone on this board say. They provide no evidence, just opinion, but can't say what it is based on.

Rhiannon12866

(206,021 posts)
12. I watched it the other night and I have to agree
Wed Jun 6, 2018, 12:36 AM
Jun 2018

I never disliked McCain the way I did Bush* - or Trump - and this profile was quite well done, raised him in my esteem. I always thought he deserved the 2000 nomination. I think Al Gore would still have won, but McCain was on his game back then, I think that by 2008 he was past his peak - and there was Sarah Palin.

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